READ BEFORE SUBMITTING TO WIKI

Topic started by Lan on Dec. 31, 2009. Last post by leofull 1 year, 7 months ago.
Post by Lan (621 posts) See mini bio Level 13
PLEASE READ THE FAQs. Reposting this to the forums because people are not reading the FAQs before submitting to the wiki; the first half was written by Little_Sparrow and the second half by me.  Plagiarism is making a frequent appearance in wiki submissions lately. It's time to review lessons for wiki submissions. Basically this goes over protocol for submitting and what plagiarism is and how to avoid it. Any questions can be directed to any one of the wiki mods-- a list of mods can be found in the FAQ.
 

Wiki Dos and Don'ts

 

Okay we are looking good subbing is going strong, But I have also been checking out the page to make sure nothing evil is a foot and have noticed a few things. So here is a little do and don't thing I made up .

Do spend ages on a sub and then go back to check the spelling errors :D trust me they sneak in I know I was talking about my pages, Sneaky bad words.
Do Sub your own work makes sense right.
Do write it in MS word so you can pick up on mistake and then copy and paste it into the page.
Do add pictures, nothing worse than a sub with no pictures.
Do ask for help if you need it, Me, Seth and Res go to each other, if we forget something or need a hand.
DO give the mods time to clear the queue they are just as busy as me or you.

DON'T Copy and paste from another site, (only do this if it is your own work and have cleared it with Admin.) If you do copy it over don't be so lazy as to leave the links in from that site.
Don't make a page without checking it and I know if like me and you have dyslexia, that it can be hard. So I ask other people to check my stuff. (Big thanks to Seth and Res for that.)
Don't Plagiarize work the site can actually get in trouble for it and also don't think because it is on the net it is free to take and is not plagiarism! Cause bad news for you almost all work on the net is copy righted to some degree !!!JUST DON'T DO IT!!!!
Don't annoy a mod ,arguing that your work has been refused, Let them state the reason and move on and re do the page. Mods do what they do for free so do not attack them.

I mean there are loads more to add but I thought I would just chuck this out. This is not an official rules thread this is just me saying what I think.

Have fun subbing guys and remember the do's and don't s

If you need a hand then ask:D.
 

Plagiarism Examples & How to Put Things In Your Own Words

 I've been considering doing a "lesson" on plagiarism for a while now. Little Sparrow's recent post on Wiki Submission Dos and Don'ts sort of gave me the motivation to do this. That and the fact that I've been finding more cases of plagiarism as of lately. I'm a little miffed because while I was dealing with plagiarism, I forgot about my slice of peanut butter pie sitting on the counter and it melted. Note this post is not a ragey, hypercritical one. It's purpose is to provide examples of plagiarism and in contrast, show examples of original content--which is what we value on Vice. I'm going to be using the character Riannon from Tears to Tiara as my example.

Example # 1

Riannon Main heroine, she released Arawn from his slumber. She takes a liking to Arawn instantly after she was saved by him, and decides to marry him. Riannon's true (magic) name Primula, she is the direct descendant of the elf king Pwyll, mixed with human genes since she is only partially elf. She, like a her brother, think simply as well, which sometimes Arawn calls them 'foolish brother and sister' due to some foolish things they do.

I copied and pasted directly from wikipedia. This is obviously plagiarsim. It is NOT ACCEPTABLE.  It's an okay description, but there are multiple grammar mistakes. Plus that last sentence doesn't really make a lot of sense. A better description could certainly be written.

Example # 2


Riannon

Main heroine, she releases Arawn from his slumber. She likes Arawn instantly after she was saved by him, and decides to marry him. Riannon's true (magic) name is Primula. She is the direct descendant of the elf king Pwyll, mixed with human genes since she is only partially elf. She, like a her brother, think simply as well, which sometimes makes Arawn calls them 'foolish brother and sister.'

Now, I changed a word or two and deleted a few more. Is this still plagiarism? YES! The fact remains that it reads almost word for word as the original article. Simply changing or deleting words does not mean I've completely changed the article and put it in my own words. I've still copied and therefore plagiarized over half the article.

Example # 3

Riannon

She is the main heroine in the anime Tears to Tiara. She is responsible for waking Arawn from his deep slumber. Arawn saves her from being killed, and as a result she takes an instant liking to him. She quickly decides to marry him. Her "true" or magic name is Primula. She is directly descended from the Elf King Pwyll. However, she is only part elf, as she contains human genes. She and her brother do foolish things which makes Arawn sometimes call them "foolish brother and sister."

Hmmm....the information is the same as that in the wikipedia article, however it reads differently. Is this plagiarism? No. This is what is called paraphrasing. I'm taking the information and putting it in my own words. This is if I'm  putting forth a minimum effort for wiki submission. I would do this if I weren't particularly familiar with the anime or character. Generally, though, I wouldn't make a wiki submission about an anime or character I didn't know a lot about. This is okay. It's accepted at Vice, nevertheless  it's not really great or original content.


Example # 4

Riannon

Riannon is the main character from the anime series Tears to Tiara. She is kidnapped and forced to become a sacrifice for the Dark Lord, Arawn. Arawn awakes from his slumber but does not kill Riannon. She becomes instantly attached to Arawn and decides to marry him, thus making him Chief of Gael. She is gifted with powerful magic as she directly descended from the Elves. Her true name is Primula, however she keeps it secret to prevent it being used to control her and her magic.

What do we have here? Original content! Whoo hoo! See how easy that was.? Nothing epic, short, very clear, and informative. You can see that I might have referenced the information in the  wikipedia article, however I did not copy it. I instead relied upon my knowledge of the character and used my own words to describe her. Watching the show/reading the manga is what will provide you with all the information you need and is far more accurate than anything you'll find on wikipedia. Take some time, do your research, and then write about the show/character/object/etc in your own words. If you're uncertain about something small, it's okay to check the web and use wikipedia or some other site as a reference point. If you're looking for style pointers look at some of the other wiki articles on Vice.



That concludes my lesson for today.
Post by JJOR64 (2,074 posts) See mini bio Level 16
@Lan: You better make this a sticky so people will actually read it.
Post by Magnathorax (167 posts) See mini bio Level 6
interesting thread
Post by cfatalis (19,150 posts) See mini bio Level 15
DIE SPAMMER DIE
Post by PiFace314 (22 posts) See mini bio Level 13
Thanks for the advice, m'lady~ I'll do my best to follow it.
Post by wkar (170 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Thanks for the information

Post by leofull (114 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@Lan: @wkar: @cfatalis: @JJOR64: Noone is reviewing my submission. Why is that?

These are pics i wanted to add to the thor page(and I added into his powers and abilties section):

Post by sickVisionz (4,145 posts) See mini bio Level 24
Moderator

As far as plagiarism goes, it's not plagiarism that's the issue. It's copying content. Plagiarism is copying without citing your sources but in all honesty it doesn't matter whether you cite your sources or not. DO NO COPY CONTENT FROM OTHER SITES. I specify this solely because a user complained that his wiki stuff was rejected on plagiarism despite citing sources.

@leofull: I skipped it because I wasn't sure Thor was an anime character. What anime or manga has he been in? Also, use pictures from the anime/manga as main images rather than standard comic book ones. Throw those up on Comic Vine.

Post by sickVisionz (4,145 posts) See mini bio Level 24
Moderator

@leofull: When I say copying content, I mean like you copy a whole paragraph from Wikipedia and then at the end say, "Source: Wikipedia" with a link. Whether you cite or not, that entry will be deleted. Copying content is the issue, not whether or not you're citing sources.

Post by leofull (114 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@sickVisionz said:

@leofull: When I say copying content, I mean like you copy a whole paragraph from Wikipedia and then at the end say, "Source: Wikipedia" with a link. Whether you cite or not, that entry will be deleted. Copying content is the issue, not whether or not you're citing sources.

So it's okay to add to a character in my own words(i.e. without copying content) without citing sources?

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