On Hentai

Topic started by gia on Dec. 7, 2008. Last post by lordhaseo 5 years, 9 months ago.
Post by gia (3,032 posts) See mini bio Level 13
In response to Little Sparrow's post as well as other comments I've received since launch:

Yes, our current policy is to allow hentai on the site, and there's a very good reason for it. It takes a little bit of explanation, but here goes:

In Japan, anime is a very heavily sexualized medium. Even series that aren't hentai frequently have fanservice, and fans frequently draw their own erotic doujinshi (self-published manga) of the characters. These doujinshi are tolerated by the copyright owners largely because they don't want to irk the fans and because doujinshi creators are the pool of talent from which they will frequently draw to find new original mangaka.  The world's largest comics convention-- yes, ANY kind of comics, period, anywhere --is Japan's Comiket, which happens twice a year and is devoted almost entirely to the sale of this doujinshi (although it's not all erotic, nor is it all based on previously published works-- but the majority is).

On top of that, a lot of anime these days comes from pornographic games. Kanon? Fate/Stay Night? Comic Party, Da Capo, Shuffle!, To Heart, Tsukihime, Utawarerumono-- these are all popular, mainstream, non-pornographic anime that are based on hardcore porn games. There are often erotic or fanservicey figures made of characters from mainstream anime, not to mention dakimakura (pillowcases made for those long body pillows that have female anime characters printed on them, so you can snuggle with them at night), and plenty of shows that really blur the line between hentai and non-hentai.

In other words: it's extremely difficult to try and take the sex out of anime. So for now, at least, we're leaving it in.
Post by Black_Rose (1,204 posts) See mini bio Level 11
I support this, hentai is a part of anime, it should not be taken. However, i think there should be some kind of age barrier for the sexualized pages. 
Post by Desisashi (1,801 posts) See mini bio Level 8
i agree with you and i agree with black rose age barrier people we don't want 10 year olds having our hentai XD jk but still it demands an age restriction. Thanks for sharing your opinion on the issue Gia i believe that people will enjoy it as much as i did 
Post by gia (3,032 posts) See mini bio Level 13
We've talked about creating some kind of flagging system for adult content, but we have to get everything we currently have working before we can try for anything like that ^^
Post by Auron (419 posts) See mini bio Level 5
I dont see the point in posted nude pics
Post by Desisashi (1,801 posts) See mini bio Level 8
gia said:
"We've talked about creating some kind of flagging system for adult content, but we have to get everything we currently have working before we can try for anything like that ^^"

ok so take your time with these things, were not saying you have to do it in the speed of light XD

so i wish you luck on its progress
Post by Niko (865 posts) See mini bio Level 8
Hentai is anime. You cover anime. Therefore, some of your content is going to be hentai. I understand people not liking hentai, but they can't deny it as part of the medium and having a place in the overall fandom. They just have to grow up and deal with the fact that liking anime means liking a medium that does contain pornography. I like live-action movies, and there's live-action porn. No problem there.
Post by brukaoru (16 posts) See mini bio Level 3
gia said:
"We've talked about creating some kind of flagging system for adult content, but we have to get everything we currently have working before we can try for anything like that ^^"
Yes, I think this is the best idea. Happy to hear this will be implemented. :)
Post by orz (114 posts) See mini bio Level 7
hey, sometimes hentais have decently good stories too
Post by Little_Sparrow (1,220 posts) See mini bio Level 12
Really did not think my Blog would go so big. After talking with everyone as I am a bit naive when it comes to hentai I now understand that is a very large base. I think the idea of a flag is awesome and I can totally see what everyone is saying and I think it is great that we will be a full Wiki site not cutting things out and thanks everyone for one explaining things to me and also to the different views everyone brought to the convo.
Post by Devilly (5,329 posts) See mini bio Level 10
More then 90% of my favorite anime`s have yuri, ecchi and mass fan-service in it i even used to blog about it.*turns away in shame* so i never had any problems with that^^
What most anime`s could do is censor it a little and then take it away for the DVD`s like what they do on Rosario + vampire

Put a big teddy face or a bat in front of the good stuff XD
Post by gia (3,032 posts) See mini bio Level 13
Devilly: Actually, in Japan, even hentai DVDs are censored. They always mosaic out genitalia. I believe this is actually due to the obscenity laws the United States put in place when we occupied Japan after WWII, which remain to this day.

It's actually really funny...when tourists from the US go to Japan, they buy porn, because Japan has such wacky stuff. When Japanese tourists come to the US, they buy porn, because they want uncensored stuff. It's the circle of pornographic life, or something.
Post by Desisashi (1,801 posts) See mini bio Level 8
gia said:
"Devilly: Actually, in Japan, even hentai DVDs are censored. They always mosaic out genitalia. I believe this is actually due to the obscenity laws the United States put in place when we occupied Japan after WWII, which remain to this day.

It's actually really funny...when tourists from the US go to Japan, they buy porn, because Japan has such wacky stuff. When Japanese tourists come to the US, they buy porn, because they want uncensored stuff. It's the circle of pornographic life, or something."

yup i hear ya
Post by Devilly (5,329 posts) See mini bio Level 10
gia said:
"Devilly: Actually, in Japan, even hentai DVDs are censored. They always mosaic out genitalia. I believe this is actually due to the obscenity laws the United States put in place when we occupied Japan after WWII, which remain to this day.

It's actually really funny...when tourists from the US go to Japan, they buy porn, because Japan has such wacky stuff. When Japanese tourists come to the US, they buy porn, because they want uncensored stuff. It's the circle of pornographic life, or something."

understood but still Rosario + Vampire aint ^^
Post by Desisashi (1,801 posts) See mini bio Level 8
Devilly said:
"gia said:
"Devilly: Actually, in Japan, even hentai DVDs are censored. They always mosaic out genitalia. I believe this is actually due to the obscenity laws the United States put in place when we occupied Japan after WWII, which remain to this day.

It's actually really funny...when tourists from the US go to Japan, they buy porn, because Japan has such wacky stuff. When Japanese tourists come to the US, they buy porn, because they want uncensored stuff. It's the circle of pornographic life, or something."

understood but still Rosario + Vampire aint ^^"

i bet chibi vampire has some good naked fun XD
Post by Devilly (5,329 posts) See mini bio Level 10
No not alot its a good Romantic anime though ^_^'
Post by gia (3,032 posts) See mini bio Level 13
Another thing to think about is the disconnect between anime and manga. Manga tends to be read by just about everyone in Japan-- but anime tends to be less mainstream, mostly younger people and hardcore fans. Most anime actually airs between midnight and 3am, and these shows tend to be a lot more adult in content than, say, Bleach or Naruto, who air during the daytime....kind of like how Cartoon Network airs pretty benign stuff during the day, but Adult Swim gets a bit more raunchy.
Post by Devilly (5,329 posts) See mini bio Level 10
gia said:
"Another thing to think about is the disconnect between anime and manga. Manga tends to be read by just about everyone in Japan-- but anime tends to be less mainstream, mostly younger people and hardcore fans. Most anime actually airs between midnight and 3am, and these shows tend to be a lot more adult in content than, say, Bleach or Naruto, who air during the daytime....kind of like how Cartoon Network airs pretty benign stuff during the day, but Adult Swim gets a bit more raunchy."

Don't forget ''the fillers'' Naruto Shippuden is close to another filler period and Rosario + Vampire had 4 in a row since this week. -_-
It totally disrupts the viewer who has read the manga before he/she saw the anime.
Post by zhinse (5 posts) See mini bio Level 1
Pretty creepy subject here. you better be careful about this subject before the whole culture of the site turns into something other than its supposed to be. 
Post by Void_Wizard (735 posts) See mini bio Level 9
This reasoning makes complete sense and I agree with it.  Many of the hentai-to-anime adaptions aren't as popular in the States as they are in Japan by a long shot though that isn't surprising considering the lack of retail h-games under those big names.(luckily there's sites like j-list etc. though I went out of my way to import the PC ver. of Fate/stay night and am very glad I did so).
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