So how fast are bleach characters exactly?
@redbird3rdboywonder: Considering all the Bleach speedfeats are pretty much unquantifiable... it's really hard to tell. But I've always believed them to be hypersonic but some say supersonic which I highly doubt. But I can say for sure they are the fastest verse compared to Naruto and One Piece.
@UltimateHero0406 @taichokage @GIRUGAMESH @othus12 any thoughts guys?
Logia have two (three if you counting Haki) weakness
Is being submerged in water or Sea Stone
Is there natural enemy
It was stated around the beginning that Devil Fruit have natural enemy
He was stabbing Luffy, it wasn't a one sided battle
@SpeedForceSpider: the fastest being on the HST is kizaru,due to his light properties and maybe kuma due to his teleport but they are an exception to their verse. regarding bleach characters speed, well, top tiers are certainly hypersonic and overall, bleach verse has the fastest characters. take this as an example:
1.-a shunpo from byakuya was faster than what the human eye can see (ichigo couldnt track it)
2.-next ichigo bankai blitzed the alredy fast byakuya and was creating afterimages.
3.-then he got blitzed by ulquiorra primera etapa even with hollow mask on
4.- then ichigo went "vasto lorde" and blitzed ulquiorra even after his segunda resurrecion
so, if we consider that the lowest grade of shunpo is alredy faster than what the eye can see,then vasto lorde ichigo should be at least massively hypersonic.
those are my thoughts : /
@redbird3rdboywonder: i dont really think yoruichi should be able to react to vasto lorde ichigo, not even with shunkou, mainly because her shunpo was only slightly better than byakuyas shunpo (they were struggling at the seiretei), also she didnt seem to blitz him, unlike ichigos bankai. IMO the fastest bleach characters are:
-vasto lorde ichigo
-primera espada stark (if i remember correctly he kidnapped orihime and with one sonido jump got to las noches, while ichigo bankai took like 2 chapters to get there after the fight )
-aizen with hogyoku (he had a teleport-like hability)
-ichigo post dangai and final getsuga (he kept up with aizen)
-ulquiorra segunda etapa
those should be the fastest characters IMO
@redbird3rdboywonder: the thing is....all captains got ridiculously powered up after the gotei 13 arc. for example:
mayuri lost to ishida -> then ishida lost to 8va espada aporro ->then aporro lost to mayuri (how did that happened?)
kenpachi lost to ichigo without bankai->then ichigo with hollow mask barely won against 6ta espada-> then kenpachi defeated 5ta espada (how did that happened?)
obviously all captains got their powers amped and because of that yoruichi stopped being the fastest character.