Giant Robot (the magazine) Needs Your Help!

Topic started by John_Martone on Feb. 2, 2010. Last post by gia 2 years, 3 months ago.
Post by John_Martone (2,992 posts) See mini bio Level 10
  
  
Now, I know most of you were reaching for your wallets, hoping some actual giant robotic entity was in need of our aid, but this is also an interesting case. With 15 years under their belt, and art styles that make me feel a little squishy, Giant Robot feels like the kind of publication I could get into.
 
While I don't expect any of us have the kind of pockets to donate too much, at the very least I will be picking this title up off of the news stand. This seems backwards, but its focus on Asian and Asian-American pop culture and art  it reminds me of Pink Tentacle, but in magazine form. How could that be a bad thing?
 
Note: If you are the kind of person with excessive funds lying around, donate to Giant Robot here, and then PM me, I have needs too.
 
Post by lanaswift (636 posts) See mini bio Level 4
I don't normally go for this kind of thing. I feel like if you can't run your business with an actual business model, I shouldn't be responsible for propping you up...but in this case, it's actually a really cool magazine and I'd like to support it.
Post by sora_thekey (1,046 posts) See mini bio Level 16
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Never actually picked up a Giant Robot Mag... what's it about anyway?
Post by Konanda (796 posts) See mini bio Level 17

Never seen the magazine on a shelf. Even in Chapters/Indigo shelves, leading me to believe they don't distribute to the far northern reaches of Canada. Or at least the Eastern side, which also happens to be where most of the population is. 
 
*By Eastern I'm referring to anything east of the EST border.

Post by ethan (887 posts) See mini bio Level 15
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@lanaswift said:
" I don't normally go for this kind of thing. I feel like if you can't run your business with an actual business model, I shouldn't be responsible for propping you up...but in this case, it's actually a really cool magazine and I'd like to support it. "
I basically agree. 
 
GiantRobot is a great magazine and  Eric Nakamura has done a great job with it over the years.  But I wonder why they didnt put more resources behind their web presence.  They've had a website for years but Quantcast (  http://www.quantcast.com/giantrobot.com)  has them listed as ranking 72,644.  Compare that to Animevice.com  ( http://www.quantcast.com/animevice.com) which is a year old and ranked14,366 already. 
 
I don't mean to brag about our growth, but honestly shouldn't a business move to a model that works?
Post by jamesleung (4 posts) See mini bio Level 1
Giant Robot magazine has been around for nearly fifteen years, and it spans the broad spectrum of Asian-American pop culture.  They cover a lot of underground bands, upcoming artists, movies, anime, manga, toys, and pop culture fads from Asia.   More Info about GR: http://www.giantrobot.com/about.html .  In terms of availability, it's sold in many retail outlets including Borders, Barnes and Noble, and Kinokuniya.
 
As for the business model question, all of print publishing is suffering in this current economic crisis.  Even the major publishers like Random House are taking steps to prevent further revenue losses.  Distributors are having a particularly difficult time with the dropping sales in print media. It's just a tough economy all around.
 
Please support Giant Robot Magazine.  
http://www.giantrobot.com/donate 
Post by FoxxFireArt (2,359 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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I had never even heard of this magazine before.
 
Right now, my favorite comic/manga artist is facing some issues getting his latest Gold Digger Gold Brick #5 published. One of the struggles of working with an independent publisher. He's not asking for donations. He's asking people to help him reach a certain number of preorders and is offering some original artwork and a free issue of one of his comics. If they don't make a minimum preorders they are going to refund all orders.
Post by John_Martone (2,992 posts) See mini bio Level 10
@FoxxFireArt said:
" I had never even heard of this magazine before.  Right now, my favorite comic/manga artist is facing some issues getting his latest Gold Digger Gold Brick #5 published. One of the struggles of working with an independent publisher. He's not asking for donations. He's asking people to help him reach a certain number of preorders and is offering some original artwork and a free issue of one of his comics. If they don't make a minimum preorders they are going to refund all orders. "
I've heard of Gold Digger before, but never read it. Though, Antarctic Press are pretty cool people. Being SA based, most of their staff makes it to the texas cons
Post by FoxxFireArt (2,359 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@John_Martone: 
Fred Perry is easily my artistic idol. Gold Digger is really good. You can tell the man has a lot of love for manga and anime. He adds in little or obvious references all the time.
 
As seen in THIS comic he drew referencing both Dragonball and Kamina.
Post by HSaabedra (136 posts) See mini bio Level 4
@ethan: I have to agree with you on principle, but at the same time the material covered in a typical issue of Giant Robot doesn't really lend itself to a web-based publishing model such as the one used on AnimeVice.  The features on Asian culture and the investigative reports are what set it apart from other magazines of its type, at the same time that kind of journalism isn't sustainable using ad revenue strictly from online advertising. 
 
Perhaps the magazine would be better served not as a solely online magazine, but as an e-publication extension much like Steve Harris is trying to do with the EGM relaunch.  
 
@jamesleung: I've been a huge fan of the magazine since I picked up the June 2006 issue, but I have to wonder if the choice to open up storefronts as an extension of the GR brand was a wise move, since those were/are resources that could have been put to better use towards the magazine itself and seriously ramping up your web presence to attract more readers outside of Asian culture enthusiasts.
 
That being said, I'll be donating to the cause.
Post by John_Martone (2,992 posts) See mini bio Level 10
@HSaabedra: E-publications just don't do it for me. The spoiled brat that I am, I enjoy the feeling of paper in my hands, with a glossy coated cover. Actually, I just bought my first issue of it yesterday (issue 63.) I'm gonna read it over lunch and then blog a review over it.
Post by HSaabedra (136 posts) See mini bio Level 4
@John_Martone said:
" @HSaabedra: E-publications just don't do it for me. The spoiled brat that I am, I enjoy the feeling of paper in my hands, with a glossy coated cover. Actually, I just bought my first issue of it yesterday (issue 63.) I'm gonna read it over lunch and then blog a review over it. "
While I share your sentiment, it really looks like that will be the business model for magazines going forward if EGM's initiative is any indication.
Post by John_Martone (2,992 posts) See mini bio Level 10
@HSaabedra: The Escapist makes a good run out of setting up a website to work like a publication, using issues and freelance contributors. Though I think it works based around high level of composition/zero price of admission. EGM might be able to pull it off, as its a name we've heard for decades, but I doubt its upstart friendly. I mean, similar to here, we're "hypothetically" a corperate model, but that basically means is that as a website we're spending through the nose to continously develop a product worth reading, in the hopes that people eventually catch onto that fact. Though most people presumably don't have the capital to slug it out long enough, hard enough.
Post by HSaabedra (136 posts) See mini bio Level 4
@John_Martone said:
The Escapist makes a good run out of setting up a website to work like a publication, using issues and freelance contributors. Though I think it works based around high level of composition/zero price of admission. EGM might be able to pull it off, as its a name we've heard for decades, but I doubt its upstart friendly. I mean, similar to here, we're "hypothetically" a corporate model, but that basically means is that as a website we're spending through the nose to continuously develop a product worth reading, in the hopes that people eventually catch onto that fact. Though most people presumably don't have the capital to slug it out long enough, hard enough. "
 I believe AnimeVice is a good compromise between a model like the Escapist and a straight news blog, but there are other sites and networks like Gawker Media and The Daily Beast that blur that distinction between journalism and commentary with some amazing results and the audience to match.
Post by gia (3,032 posts) See mini bio Level 13
@HSaabedra: Yeah, we were just talking about that-- Kotaku is sheer volume, if you want to be in on pretty much every piece of gamer news AND culture it's the way to go. But it can be a bit of an overload for some. By contrast, Giant Bomb is minimal on news and culture editorially (though users provide a lot of that content on the blogs and forums there), but their reviews are *killer*. Kotaku's reviews are hit and miss by contrast, at least IMO.
Post by HSaabedra (136 posts) See mini bio Level 4
@gia said:
Yeah, we were just talking about that-- Kotaku is sheer volume, if you want to be in on pretty much every piece of gamer news AND culture it's the way to go. But it can be a bit of an overload for some. By contrast, Giant Bomb is minimal on news and culture editorially (though users provide a lot of that content on the blogs and forums there), but their reviews are *killer*. Kotaku's reviews are hit and miss by contrast, at least IMO. "
Giant Bomb is awesome as is the rest of Whiskey Media, but I'm very focused on news and deals myself on my blog as you may have noticed.  Ideally I want my blog to be as successful as AV.  Meanwhile I'll continue give people a break on DVDs, video games and gear while covering events like CES, GDC and E3 through my eyes.  I'm moving towards more of a magazine format myself and hopefully it'll help me improve coverage.
Post by gia (3,032 posts) See mini bio Level 13
@HSaabedra: It's really a matter of what an audience wants. Giant Bomb has a large and extremely loyal following of readers who have been following their stuff for a decade or more, and that's primarily been about reviewing, so naturally GB focuses on putting out very high-quality reviews. 
 
Personally, my audience isn't as large and hasn't followed me as long (...I hope ^_^;), but they're very used to me working primarily on news, with relatively minimal reviews, so that's where I tend to default. As such, I don't feel like I'm a particularly strong reviewer yet-- but I'm hoping to be doing this for a very long time, so I'm working on improving there :) John, by contrast, was well-known at his previous position at Jtor for his analyses, so I wish he wasn't so busy with all his other tasks so I could make him do more of it!

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