A good post-300 starting point for One Piece

Topic started by sickVisionz on Nov. 15, 2012. Last post by FoxxFireArt 1 year, 10 months ago.
Post by sickVisionz (4,296 posts) See mini bio Level 24
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I'm looking to get back into One Piece but I want to start later in the series once the animation really cranks up but not so far that ahead that I've missed a lot of the well animated fights. What's a good episode/arc to jump in on that will basically recap the origins of the main crew up to that point and then get things moving forward?

I know there is a time skip but I don't want to skip so far ahead this I miss a lot of the well done fights in the series.

Post by ShadowKnight508 (5,319 posts) See mini bio Level 19
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@sickVisionz: Hmm...let me get back to you on this. I will try to find you a good entry point post-300 Episode mark.

Post by ShadowKnight508 (5,319 posts) See mini bio Level 19
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What I am about to offer you (Episode #-wise) depends on what you wish to start with (story-wise in One Piece). These four options give you a choice of where you should start in the post-300 episode side of One Piece.

WARNING: MINOR PLOT AND STORY SPOILERS AHEAD!

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Don't Say I Didn't Warn You!

Option One: Thriller Bark Arc (Grand Line Saga) (Episodes 337 to 381)

Start Episode: Episode 337

Page: http://www.animevice.com/venture-into-the-devils-sea-the-mysterious-skeleton-floating-through-the-fog/12-24478/

Mini-Breakdown: Introduces the final character (Brook) that eventually joins up with the Straw Hat Pirates (pre-time skip) after the events of Thriller Bark. The Straw Hats get pulled into the mysterious Florian Triangle, a wide patch of sea filled with darkness and haunting reminders of those who had become ensnared within the fog's grasp, never to find their way out. Unknown to the Straw Hats, these seas are currently under the influence of Gecko Moria, one of the Seven Shichibukai and master of the Thriller Bark. Leads into the Sabaody Archipelago Arc.

Option Two: Sabaody Archipelago Arc (Grand Line Saga) (Episodes 385 to 405)

Start Episode: Episode 385 (Dead End Arc)

Page: http://www.animevice.com/arriving-at-halfway-through-the-grand-line-the-red-line/12-119959/

Mini-Breakdown: The Straw Hat Pirates arrive at the midway point of their journey on the Grand Line at the Red Line, which separates the current world from the legendary "New World" on the other side of the Red Line. After dealing with a bitter man and his underlings who harbors a strong grudge against Sanji (due to a blunder by the Marines in the image used on Sanji's wanted poster), they arrive at Sabaody Archipelago, the final stop before making the undersea crossing through Fishman Island with a special bubble coating that is applied to all ships making the journey. However, Luffy's actions against important members of the World Government (the Celestial Dragons) attracts the full attention of the Marines, and utter madness ensues.

Option Three: Amazon Lilly Arc (Grand Line Saga) (Episodes 406 to 417)

Start Episode: Episode 408 (Amazon Lilly Arc) (Ep. 406 and 407 are two special Feudal Boss Luffy-themed episodes that have nothing to do with the main story)

Page: http://www.animevice.com/landing-the-all-female-island-amazon-lily/12-122760/

Mini-Breakdown: After the utter

destruction of the hopelessly-outmatched Straw Hat Pirates at the hands of both the Marines and Shichibukai Bartholomew Kuma, Monkey D. Luffy finds himself stuck upon a strange island filled with dangerous jungles and populated by only women! Landing on the island that serves as the land that the beautiful Shichibukai Boa Hancock rules, Luffy is in for some big misadventures and countless misunderstandings! Leads into the Impel Down Arc.

Final Option: Impel Down Arc (Grand Line Saga) (Episodes 422 to 452)

Start Episode: Episode 422 (Impel Down Arc)

Page: http://www.animevice.com/a-deadly-infiltration-the-underwater-prison-impel-down/12-127621/

Mini-Breakdown: Once he had made it inside of the impenatrable walls of the legendary prison Impel Down with the aid of a lovestruck Boa Handcock, Luffy sets out to find and

save his brother Portgas D. Ace, who is scheduled for execution at Marineford within several days. Impel Down holds thousands upon thousands of prisoners who's crimes have landed them at the worst prison in the entire world, including several dangerous foes that Luffy has crushed in the past, leading to their imprisonment in each nemesis's aftermath of losing to Luffy! Can Luffy save his brother before he is escorted away by the Marines to die?
Post by AURON570 (572 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Where's when you need him ;P I'm interested to see what he suggests.

I can't really say too much about the animation and fight scenes, since I am only around episode 200. BUT, just looking at the arc breakdown on the One Piece page, it looks like ep300 is right in the middle of the Enies Lobby Arc (eps 262-325).

I have heard that both the Enies Lobby Arc and the preceding Waters 7 Arc (eps 221-261) are really amazing though.

Post by Destinyheroknight (10,299 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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Wish I can help, but my knowledge of the anime is lacking.

Post by FoxxFireArt (2,643 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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It's a bit hard to say, but post 300 is just about the time of the Enies Lobby Arc. That had some awesome battles, especially Luffy vs Rob Lucci. There is the last big filler arc after that. Thriller Bark was fun and hilarious with some awesome battles. That's when Brook joins in. Sabaody Archipelago would probably be great. That has one of the biggest plot reveals and it's a relatively short arc. Most of that arc's episodes are avaliable on HULU.

If you just look on the One Piece anime page. I label the various arcs by with what episodes they start and end at. That may make it easier to know where to start.

Post by sickVisionz (4,296 posts) See mini bio Level 24
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I don't mind jumping around to get the back stories and then starting from one solid spot. I already know as much as I probably need to about Luffy (although I will probably watch the arc where Ace dies), Nami, Ussop, Zoro (although I think he's searching for some mystical Seven Ninja Swordsmen of the Mist type of dudes and I wouldn't mind seeing stuff about them), Chopper, and Sanji so I don't need there's info. Where I stopped at, Robin Nico was kind of a bad guy but she was starting to show signs that she might actually be good. I've heard that she joins the crew later (I think) so that's about where I left off.

I could read about them on the Wiki, but that's no fun. I have an idea where I'll probably start off at, but are there some good recaps, flashbacks, or 1-3 episode chunks that sum up the origins of everyone else. I know Luffy probably helps them solve a problem and they join him because of that, but I'm trying to see what their base thing is, like how Nami had her adopted mom murdered, Chopper's doctor guy got killed, Zoro's friend dying, etc.

Post by ShadowKnight508 (5,319 posts) See mini bio Level 19
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@sickVisionz: Sounds like you left off in the Baroque Works Saga: Alabasta Arc (when Robin was an agent of Baroque Works under Crocodile). For Franky, you need to watch Water Seven/Enies Lobby to see him flesh out as a character and join the Straw Hats. As for Brook, you need to watch the Thriller Bark Arc to see how he evolves as a character and joins up with Luffy and the gang. As for flashbacks for Nami (death of adoptive mother Bellemere during Arlong Park Arc), Chopper (death of Doctor Hiriluk during Drum Island Arc), Zoro (young female friend dying in that one arc I can't think of at the moment). FoxxFireArt should be able to fully help you with that.

Hmm...@FoxxFireArt: Didn't that Memory Island (Ep. 220-224) filler arc give a short recap/flashback for the current crewmates at the time it occurred?

Post by FoxxFireArt (2,643 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@ShadowKnight508: Yeah, but you're going to be getting flashbacks in the mini arcs after the screw is split up in the post Sabaody Archipelago events. The crew's history is pretty much summed up in all the episodes at the end of the Dawn Island Arc before the time skip.

Post by ohgodwhy (1,575 posts) See mini bio Level 12

@ShadowKnight508 said:

What I am about to offer you (Episode #-wise) depends on what you wish to start with (story-wise in One Piece). These four options give you a choice of where you should start in the post-300 episode side of One Piece.

WARNING: MINOR PLOT AND STORY SPOILERS AHEAD!

<<<

<<

<

Don't Say I Didn't Warn You!

Option One: Thriller Bark Arc (Grand Line Saga) (Episodes 337 to 381)

Start Episode: Episode 337

Page: http://www.animevice.com/venture-into-the-devils-sea-the-mysterious-skeleton-floating-through-the-fog/12-24478/

Mini-Breakdown: Introduces the final character (Brook) that eventually joins up with the Straw Hat Pirates (pre-time skip) after the events of Thriller Bark. The Straw Hats get pulled into the mysterious Florian Triangle, a wide patch of sea filled with darkness and haunting reminders of those who had become ensnared within the fog's grasp, never to find their way out. Unknown to the Straw Hats, these seas are currently under the influence of Gecko Moria, one of the Seven Shichibukai and master of the Thriller Bark. Leads into the Sabaody Archipelago Arc.

Option Two: Sabaody Archipelago Arc (Grand Line Saga) (Episodes 385 to 405)

Start Episode: Episode 385 (Dead End Arc)

Page: http://www.animevice.com/arriving-at-halfway-through-the-grand-line-the-red-line/12-119959/

Mini-Breakdown: The Straw Hat Pirates arrive at the midway point of their journey on the Grand Line at the Red Line, which separates the current world from the legendary "New World" on the other side of the Red Line. After dealing with a bitter man and his underlings who harbors a strong grudge against Sanji (due to a blunder by the Marines in the image used on Sanji's wanted poster), they arrive at Sabaody Archipelago, the final stop before making the undersea crossing through Fishman Island with a special bubble coating that is applied to all ships making the journey. However, Luffy's actions against important members of the World Government (the Celestial Dragons) attracts the full attention of the Marines, and utter madness ensues.

Option Three: Amazon Lilly Arc (Grand Line Saga) (Episodes 406 to 417)

Start Episode: Episode 408 (Amazon Lilly Arc) (Ep. 406 and 407 are two special Feudal Boss Luffy-themed episodes that have nothing to do with the main story)

Page: http://www.animevice.com/landing-the-all-female-island-amazon-lily/12-122760/

Mini-Breakdown: After the utter

destruction of the hopelessly-outmatched Straw Hat Pirates at the hands of both the Marines and Shichibukai Bartholomew Kuma, Monkey D. Luffy finds himself stuck upon a strange island filled with dangerous jungles and populated by only women! Landing on the island that serves as the land that the beautiful Shichibukai Boa Hancock rules, Luffy is in for some big misadventures and countless misunderstandings! Leads into the Impel Down Arc.

Final Option: Impel Down Arc (Grand Line Saga) (Episodes 422 to 452)

Start Episode: Episode 422 (Impel Down Arc)

Page: http://www.animevice.com/a-deadly-infiltration-the-underwater-prison-impel-down/12-127621/

Mini-Breakdown: Once he had made it inside of the impenatrable walls of the legendary prison Impel Down with the aid of a lovestruck Boa Handcock, Luffy sets out to find and

save his brother Portgas D. Ace, who is scheduled for execution at Marineford within several days. Impel Down holds thousands upon thousands of prisoners who's crimes have landed them at the worst prison in the entire world, including several dangerous foes that Luffy has crushed in the past, leading to their imprisonment in each nemesis's aftermath of losing to Luffy! Can Luffy save his brother before he is escorted away by the Marines to die?

I started from Option 2 when I decided to start getting into OP. It's an important arc and it sets up all of the arcs that come after it yet at the same time you won't be missing too much if you haven't fully read up on the past chapters. It's kind of like part 1.5, half way between the start and the timeskip imo so I would recommend starting from there.

Post by sickVisionz (4,296 posts) See mini bio Level 24
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Someone told me that things really crank up for good animation around the start of the Thriller Bark arc but that's not available on Hulu yet. Instead, I'll just start at the earliest episode after that, which is #391. Thanks for the help.

@FoxxFireArt said:

The crew's history is pretty much summed up in all the episodes at the end of the Dawn Island Arc before the time skip.

Thanks

Post by Petiew (244 posts) See mini bio Level 14
Even though the animation improves once they get further on the art style and pacing start to really suffer. Thriller Bark is actually where a lot of people, including myself, gave up on the anime as it was getting pretty bad and hard to follow. There are eventually some really well animated episodes near the end, (Strawhats vs Oz, Nightmare Luffy vs Moria/Oz, etc) but they're few and far between.
There also haven't been that many big fights since Thriller Bark. The big war arc is less about well done fights and focusses more on a new character being introduced and showing off a big move, or little skirmishes between 2 characters that we never see the end of.  
 
Enies Lobby has a couple of filler episodes of character flashbacks for the first 7 just before they start the big fights. The arc had some alright fights, but the art was really inconsistent and occassionally looked stupid as hell. Also you said you probably couldn't even get episodes that early.
If you're only interested in cool, nicely animated fights One Piece might not really be worth it. There's less focus on fights, and the anime is a slog to get through. They mostly stopped doing filler arcs and just padded the main arcs themselves out with a ton of filler. You might want to read the manga and then just watch conclusions to the big fights in the anime. 
Post by sickVisionz (4,296 posts) See mini bio Level 24
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@Petiew: I don't really mind inconsistent artstyle, especially if it's done in the service of quality, interesting, or unique animation. Many of the animators on these shows are hired specifically for their unique approaches so it's all good to my. I don't mind seeing how different people approach things. Also, I find that some anime fans would rather terrible animation that looks consistent with everything else over good to great animation that's a little bit different. I'm not one of those fans though. Quite the opposite, actually.

As far as just reading the manga, I don't want to. I'm hooked on reading Bleach and Naruto so I can't stop reading those, but I'm actively avoiding reading the manga for any anime that I'm interested in. The only joy I get from reading manga while watching the anime is spoilers, but spoilers just lessen how much I enjoy the anime and when given the choice, I'd rather take more enjoyment from the anime.

Plus, I don't want to skip fillers. Bleach and Naruto (especially Bleach) have taught me that fillers can be some of the better episodes in a series.

Post by Petiew (244 posts) See mini bio Level 14
@sickVisionz: I feel like the problem with the One Piece anime is that the animation is subpar even in newer episodes. The art isn't poor or weird in order to maintain really great looking animation, it's just poor because of the budget.
The art in movie 6 is really strange, the characters look diferent but the animation is very well done and the whole thing flows together. I really like movie 6 despite the weird look. I feel like the series isn't like this at all though. There are tons of still shots, where it's just characters with their mouth and eyes wide open reacting to what someone said.
 
Personally I don't like the kind of filler One Piece does now, not to say you won't enjoy it then since you seem to enjoy filler. My major issue was the episodes are just artifically padded out. Again it's the People react to what's just been said shots that got on my nerves.
Post by FoxxFireArt (2,643 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@sickVisionz:

I just remembered that part way through the Enies Lobby arc. There is not just the back story of Nico Robin in detail (Ep. 275-278), but there are several filler episodes that are directly dedicated to the back stories of each of the Straw Hat members (Ep. 279-.283). Franky's back story was told in Ep. 248-250. Brook's story was told in the later Thriller Bark arc in Ep. 378-380.

The end of the Dawn Island arc also recaps these events very briefly, then you could jump right into the time skip.

You can also check out the ONE PIECE 101 videos that FUNimation has been posting on YouTube. These are overly broad and removes much of the depth, but still has the basics of most of the crew, so far.

Post by sickVisionz (4,296 posts) See mini bio Level 24
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@Petiew said:

There are tons of still shots, where it's just characters with their mouth and eyes wide open reacting to what someone said.

To be fair, I remember a lot of that in the early episodes too. I'm good though. I saw a pretty throw away fight in episode 392 that looked significantly better than anything I saw from 1-122. The rest of it was as lackluster as I remember, but if throw away fights are that ok, I think I'll get nice payoff for all the power of friendship and nakama, nakama, nakama, stuff that I'm sure is right around the corner.

@FoxxFireArt: Thanks. I'll check those out if they're up on Hulu.

Post by FoxxFireArt (2,643 posts) See mini bio Level 25
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@sickVisionz:

The HULU episodes are nearing the end of the Water Seven Arc that leads directly into Enies Lobby Arc. The Dawn Island Arc episodes are all up.

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