@othus12: Feel free to say why instead of just conforming to what someone else says.
@CerusSerenade: All respect lost~
0.) Lock this thread please YHWH murderstomps
1.) YHWH not YHVH (it is pronounced Yahweh)
2.) YHWH revealed that he only pretended to lose and trapped the dude in a infinite death loop in the other game(fact)
3.) Arceus was never shown to destroy anything on the level of a universe or conceptual being only shown to create
4.) It was never "heavily" implied that he could destroy the universe only stated by the creation of the new universe this one would be destroyed as a result.
5.)The above destruction would never occur on any DBZ characters watch especially because it was happening so slowly and arceus nor any of his associates have been shown to react or move at any form of high speed. At best peak human level (that is being generous).
6.)Just because you post a screenshot does not mean I have to accept that what you say is true. You showed a screenshot of someone saying the universe would be destroyed as a result of a new one being born. I took it at face value and you decided to interpret he was a faster than light universe buster on your own and no one would follow you on that crazy train.
7.)YHWH "lost" to people who would 1hit Arceus by thinking. I don't understand the comparison you are trying to make. I have already said that Shin Megami Tensei is different in that their entire plot line is statement based and straightforward. We can believe them at face value. Pokemon has many forms of canon and as such we must take them ALL into account. Not just pick and choose. Yes dialga can stop time. But he hasn't been shown to do it in most of his fights only when he wasn't in one therefore we can assume he won't. Arceus created the pokemon universe and lost to a meteor, congratz.
You are the one making yourself look stupid. You lost a thread and made a stomp thread to try to prove your other thread right and no one is agreeing with you. Sometimes you have to let go and accept your losses. The reason I even went in the Arceus thread was to test to see if there was any real foundation behind Arceus' strength and I came to found that there was none only people lying and making up feats. I would never test YHWH because there are clear evidence of him being "not even really defeated" by people on a multiverse destroying scale. Not many can even stand to him.