who can defeat the doctor (doctor who) with prep time?

Topic started by akronawol17 on Aug. 19, 2013. Last post by CerusSerenade 10 months, 2 weeks ago.
Post by akronawol17 (455 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@CerusSerenade: not to mention he's not even human. making the argument pointless...

Post by KingOfAsh (1,331 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Noein

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@CerusSerenade said:

@XxGin: Erasure from existence means that the concept no longer exists, and that there is nothing to bring back or resurrect. If the presence recreates him then it's outside help, as the devils aren't omnipotent and can't bring him back.

If you're going to say The presence + Constantine then it's an omnipotent team.

Dude your just desperate about the Doctor beating Constantine half your arguments make zero sense. The op said no omnipotents allowed not no nigh omnipotents. I am really starting to doubt that you can read. Thats why your like ignoring half my arguments.

You don't need to be omnipotent to bring someone back into creation! Lucifer can just wrap reality to the point where The Doctor never even erased Constantine. Do you know anything about Lucifer? Because I think you know anything about Lucifer. He created a multiverse! using Michaels energy.. Yes he can recreate Constantine.

Also it has nothing to do with Constantine teaming up with The Presence. It is a rule of heaven that you can not deny at all. You can not kill Constantine heaven and hell just won't allow it at all. You can not erase him either.

There is many ways Constantine can kill the Doctor.

BFR him to hell

Summon a demon to kill him

Do some weird voodoo magic on him

Summon the Phantom Stranger

Call Swamp Thing

Pull some spell out of his ass

Do this to him

Constantine can also manipulate his luck to a infinite degree. He can just stroll into a casino and win a shitload of cash with ease. How does he get out of half his problems in life?

Want me to go on?..

Get Zatanna

Get my favourite (after Constantine of course..)

SANDMAN!!!

Constaninte talks to multiversal entities like old friends.. What does the Doctor have on him?!

Before you bring in how Doc can erase all of them please do some research first.

Constantine gets his spirit pistol

Also the last and the best.. use his cunningness to trick the Doctor.@katmic said:

@taichokage: You are underestimated the doctor's genius. He is the sort of genius can could lock time so only he can time travel. We have never seen the doctor create weapons before but their is no denying how destructive anything he makes would be. He could erase the powers of every super hero on earth, including doom, make himself an infinity gauntlet the likes of which has never been seen before and so on.

Death notes don't matter here because no one knows the doctor's real name.

@XxGin: Dr. who doesn't have to kill John to defeat him if the devil proves to be a problem. He has beaten people before without killing them.

Right.. he beats him.. BLOODY HELL PEOPLE JUST DOES NOT LISTEN TO OTHERS ARGUMENTS THESE DAYS. I said all that and your argument is he can beat him.. That is not even a argument!

How can the Hulk beat TOAA?

He can beat him..

Post by KingOfAsh (1,331 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Enrico Pucci.

Also Lucifer Morningstar is nigh-omnipotent. He's second strongest in the DC universe after The Presence (and the odd exception such as the Great Evil Beast and maybe God Swamp Thing) and on par with Michael. He's more powerful than the Anti-Monitor, who is a multiverse buster, and the Endless, who are multiversial abstracts.

Post by CerusSerenade (2,454 posts) See mini bio Level 10
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@XxGin: I'm still waiting on how Constantine survives being erased by this.

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@CerusSerenade said:

@XxGin: I'm still waiting on how Constantine survives being erased by this.

So you just completely ignored my posts. Oh right can't read..

He survives it like how he survives this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8Aafr1BcLz8

If Lucifer can't have him so can't Dr Who

Just a fact that black thing that Lucifer pulled out of Constantine is his lung cancer.

Please don't think Dr Who is the best at prep

Ultimate Reed Richards can stalemate/beat him Who can win too

Ultimate Doom can stalemate/beat him Who can win too

Lucifer of DC can easily take him also Michael, Raphael and Gabriel

Mad Jim Jaspers should be able to handle Dr Who or stalemate

Pre Rectoned Beyonder can stalemate or beat

Post by Kurohige (3,681 posts) See mini bio Level 19

Ya know it's not uncommon for comic book characters to come back from being erased... I love Dr. Who and the fanbase but he isn't unbeatable. And Girono Giovanna since he will literally negate every single thing he does, piratically before it happens, and with no speed/infinite speed, I don't see Dr. Who taking him out. Constantine is another, Swamp Thing, Captain Atom too.

Post by CerusSerenade (2,454 posts) See mini bio Level 10
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@XxGin: Unless Lucifer can recreate someone's concept, he isn't saving him.

Being killed=/= being erased from existence.

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@CerusSerenade said:

@XxGin: Unless Lucifer can recreate someone's concept, he isn't saving him.

Being killed=/= being erased from existence.

He can easily. Besides Dr Who won't be able to erase him in the first place. I have already explained why don't make me explain it again.

Still waiting on how does the Doc survive all this?

BFR him to hell

Summon a demon to kill him

Do some weird voodoo magic on him

Summon the Phantom Stranger

Call Swamp Thing

Pull some spell out of his ass

Do this to him

Constantine can also manipulate his luck to a infinite

degree

. He can just stroll into a casino and win a shitload of cash with ease. How does he get out of half his problems in life?

Want me to go on?..

Get Zatanna

Get my favourite (after Constantine of course..)

SANDMAN!!!

Constaninte talks to multiversal entities like old friends.. What does the Doctor have on him?!

Before you bring in how Doc can erase all of them please do some research first.

Constantine gets his spirit pistol

Also the last and the best.. use his cunningness to trick the Doctor

Post by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (1,271 posts) See mini bio Level 10
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Squirrel Girl.

Post by AnimeDefender (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk, how can anyone forget about the toonforcer's?

Post by XxGin (375 posts) See mini bio Level 8
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@AnimeDefender said:

Tsk tsk tsk tsk tsk, how can anyone forget about the toonforcer's?

i thought only cartoon beings can have toon force?

Post by AnimeDefender (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 12

@XxGin: Nope, there are many animes where they do have toon force, Bobobo especially is know for his WTF moments.

Post by CerusSerenade (2,454 posts) See mini bio Level 10
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@XxGin: I see you're too stupid to understand the difference between being erased and being killed, I'll stop here.

Bobobo is nigh-omnipotent with toon force, of course he wins.

Darsh wins because dispel bound will protect him from erasure.

Constantine loses because without the aid of omnipotent and nigh-omnipotent beings he's just a human, and being erased from existence requires an omnipotent's power to undo, Satan can't stop him because Satan doesn't control concepts and existence.

Post by AnimeDefender (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 12

@CerusSerenade: If anything Bobobo would be be the TOAA, but okay nigh-omnipotent it is.

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@CerusSerenade: Right a noob who knows basically zero things about DC says Constantine loses and he loses while many other far more educated people who knows far more about both Constantine and Who than you say he wins and what they say is wrong?

I see your to stupid to understand that heavan wonn't allow Constantine to be erased you nooby booby

His just a human who has outsmarted both Lucifer and The Presence.. He makes Who look like a overrated nerd.

Still waiting on how does the Doc survive all this?

BFR him to hell

Summon a demon to kill him

Do some weird voodoo magic on him

Summon the Phantom Stranger

Call Swamp Thing

Pull some spell out of his ass

Do this to him

Constantine can also manipulate his luck to a infinite

degree

. He can just stroll into a casino and win a shitload of cash with ease. How does he get out of half his problems in life?

Want me to go on?..

Get Zatanna

Get my favourite (after Constantine of course..)

SANDMAN!!!

Constaninte talks to multiversal entities like old friends.. What does the Doctor have on him?!

Before you bring in how Doc can erase all of them please do some research first.

Constantine gets his spirit pistol

Also the last and the best.. use his cunningness to trick the Doctor

Vertigo Constantine makes Who his slave

New 52 Constantine drags Who to the house of mysteries and makes his head explode

Sincerely Comicstooge and I

Now if you want you want to continue this argument plz carry it over to the retard section of this site

Also someone made the exact thread just on the Vine same thread same outcome except some people are smart enough to see the truth.

Post by CerusSerenade (2,454 posts) See mini bio Level 10
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@XxGin said:

@CerusSerenade: Blorp blorp blorp blorp

Am I the only on hearing that from this guy?

:He has problems controlling his powers at times, he's not omnipotent, nigh-omnipotent is the correct classification.

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@CerusSerenade: Can't make a comeback? Looks like John wins.

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@XxGin: You're the one who can't make a comeback. I already said that Satan can't stop erasure, and if TOAA gets involved it's no longer just Constantine but Constantine and TOAA, and ominpotent characters are forbidden. In other words, Constantine doesn't have heaven and hell's promises to keep him alive.

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@CerusSerenade said:

@XxGin: You're the one who can't make a comeback. I already said that Satan can't stop erasure, and if TOAA gets involved it's no longer just Constantine but Constantine and TOAA, and ominpotent characters are forbidden. In other words, Constantine doesn't have heaven and hell's promises to keep him alive.

You have got to have proof Lucifer can't stop Who..

Also The Presence is not even in this. It is a simple law of existence and Paradox which states John can't die or be erased.. GOD made that rule ,just like how he made every single other rule after seeing what will happen if John dies. Now heres the part where you yell at me saying erasing and dieing is not the same, true. Hell prevents it. John will poof himself right back using synchronicity manipulation. This is also one of the reasons why John is so scary. The level of synchroncity around him will prevent him from being erased. If you say GODS rules means omnipotent help than basically all characters here are invalid because GODS rules effect everyone one of us everyday including Dr Doom, Mr Fantastic, Ironman.. everyone.

Now John can just BFR Who to the House of Mysteries and end the fight there.

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