Vegeta vs Thor

Topic started by hitsusatsu11 on April 6, 2010. Last post by Kelleth 4 years, 7 months ago.
Post by hitsusatsu11 (10,747 posts) See mini bio Level 20
Vegeta (ssj1 or ssj2 no ssj4) vs Thor (classic or current) Feats from all Thor comics as well as DBZ anime and manga are admissible. 
Post by nexusone (4 posts) See mini bio Level 3

Teleport away from Thor and one planet buster and game over... (saiyans can breath in outer space while thor cant) 
 
Frieza's 1st form was strong enough to blow up a planet with ease so it would be a piece of cake for SS2 Vegeta to blow up the Earth

Post by rein (5,465 posts) See mini bio Level 15
@nexusone: I believe you may have some of your facts mixed up their friend. 
  1. Saiyans can't breath in space. They can last for an indefinite amount of time, But frieza stated and goku confirmed that he wouldn't be able to survive without oxygen
  2. Vegeta can't teleport. Only goku can
  3. thor has above planet busting durability. It Won't be a one shot no matter who wins.
Now Vegeta definitely has a speed advantage, which could be a problem. However if he get's in close range Thor definitely has the advantage. Overall i think i'll have to give this to thor 7/3
Post by hitsusatsu11 (10,747 posts) See mini bio Level 20
@rein: Saiyans can survive in space. Ppl bring up that freeza was going to destroy namek because he though goku couldn't survive, but vegeta was going to destroy earth with him on it.

Post by ssjsuperman (1,661 posts) See mini bio Level 10
dont know much about classic but    Current thor could beat goku
Post by hitsusatsu11 (10,747 posts) See mini bio Level 20
@ssjsuperman: how so?
Post by ssjsuperman (1,661 posts) See mini bio Level 10
@hitsusatsu11:  
 
unless im confusing him with another vision of thor he should have odin force. 
Post by taichokage (15,451 posts) See mini bio Level 20
@ssjsuperman said:
" @hitsusatsu11:   unless im confusing him with another vision of thor he should have odin force.  "
he only has a fraction of it left if I'm not mistaken.
Post by hitsusatsu11 (10,747 posts) See mini bio Level 20
@ssjsuperman: Well at one point he did have odinforce and rune power up, but i believe it was transfered into mjonir by doc strange, regardless he still has not shown the feats to give him the easy win here. Even with the odinforce hes had to fight pple like iron man and not simple destroy them in one hit per se.
Post by taichokage (15,451 posts) See mini bio Level 20
@nexusone said:
"

Teleport away from Thor and one planet buster and game over... (saiyans can breath in outer space while thor cant) 
 
Frieza's 1st form was strong enough to blow up a planet with ease so it would be a piece of cake for SS2 Vegeta to blow up the Earth

"
couple things. Vegeta is not one of the teleporting dbz characters, two Thor can survive in space indefinitely whereas Vegeta can only do so temporarily as he needs oxygen (though later on he is seen just fine on a planet with no atmosphere.) and three, Thor is strong enough to destroy plantes with brute strength. As much as I like Vegeta I can't agree with such an easy victory if a victory at all.
Post by hitsusatsu11 (10,747 posts) See mini bio Level 20
@taichokage: Odinforce made thor stronger yes, but he could never fully control/utilize it like his father.
Post by ReiKai (3,550 posts) See mini bio Level 10
Not true. He simply hadn't grown into its full force yet. It was something Odin had for thousands of years. Thor scarcely had it a few months. It still magnified his powers enough to survive a number of blows from Bor, a guy whose sheer presence was threatening to destroy the whole planet. And Thor himself stated that without the Odinforce, Bor would've killed him in a single blow. That's how insanely powerful Bor is, considering he's the guy who killed Ymir, king of the Frost Giants.
 
Thor has Mjolnir, an insanely powerful plot-device indestructible magical item and the restrictions on its powers went out the window when Odin died. Thor is an FTL, class 100+ strength, plot-device wielding Asgardian God who has absorbed Cosmic Blasts from the Silver Surfer using Mjolnir, flown through time, traversed dimensions, can survive indefinitely in a vacuum, faced off against some of the strongest and most powerful figures in the MU, and even pulled himself back from Oblivion itself through sheer willpower. 
 
In short; Vegeta is effing screwed.
Post by hitsusatsu11 (10,747 posts) See mini bio Level 20
I will make the case for vegeta 
 
When vegeta first fought goku he had the power to single handedly destroy the earth. His power level then was 18 thousand, his power level by the end of dbz is easily in the hundreds of millions.
 
  
  Here we see vegeta destroying Arilia, though this is anime only it is valid here. Remember to that ssj1 is 50x base and ssj2 is 100x base according to daizenshuu, so even if vegeta's base never increased(which it did) if he went ssj2 here he should be able to destroy 100 planets (1planet *100x power increase)
 

By the time Vegeta fights 18 planet busting even with a small ki blast is child's play.  
 
 


Vegeta's final flash against cell is to powerful for cell (and thor) to withstand, and travels at FTL speeds.  
 
  
  Skip to 4:30 ish onward  And again Vegeta is much stronger in the buu saga then he is here. 
  
 
 
Thor does not have the destructive ability Vegeta does.

Dr doom blocks Mjonir. 
 
 
Vegeta is also far superior in speed

Here thor is being overwhelmed by spiderman's speed which pales in comparison to vegeta's.  Thor has also been tagged by the likes of Dr. Oc and the wrecking crew in the Secret Wars comic arc.
  
 
Vegeta is a warrior who made entire worlds tremble before his name as a child, at the end of DBZ pple like cell (who could one shot the solar system in ch.416) are incomparably weak to the saiyan prince, thor cannot pull out the win here.


Post by Destinyheroknight (10,389 posts) See mini bio Level 21
@hitsusatsu11 said:
"@rein: Saiyans can survive in space. Ppl bring up that freeza was going to destroy namek because he though goku couldn't survive, but vegeta was going to destroy earth with him on it.

 
 
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 Goku take them to the moon? He have a tail this does not compute does not comput...  
   
 
 
Post by hitsusatsu11 (10,747 posts) See mini bio Level 20
@Destinyheroknight: lol it happened man 
 
 
 
 
  
  Sorry for the earlier funni dub clips, for those interested here's vegetas final flash in the  "good" dub.
Post by ReiKai (3,550 posts) See mini bio Level 10
That's Eric Masterson, he has no effing clue how to use Thor's powers. And that's PIS/CIS. Thor has fought with Silver Surfer several times, who is massively FTL.
Post by hitsusatsu11 (10,747 posts) See mini bio Level 20
@ReiKai:  And yet in secret wars thors speed was dwarfed by Captain Marvel's speed, who is not FTL but exactly lightspeed as her power is transforming into light. Again in that same comic thor was tagged by the wrecking crew, im impressed. Thor has never destroyed a planet singlehandedly and if he could he would only have the power to destroy 1 max, not many like vegeta. 
Post by ReiKai (3,550 posts) See mini bio Level 10
No. Cap Marvel is FTL. He flies across the cosmos. you don't get anywhere if you're not FTL. Quasar proved this when he dumped Starman a lightyear from the sun and said along the lines if "If you can move at the speed of light I'll see you in a year!" Thor has not only taken on planet-busters, but stood his ground against a universe-wiper (Surtur). And btw, Eric after getting used to the powers a bit, and getting pissed off. KO'd Gladiator, a guy who can crush a star between his arms and smash planets with his fists and travel across galaxies in minutes. 
 
You know nothing about the Marvel universe and it's people.
Post by hitsusatsu11 (10,747 posts) See mini bio Level 20
@ReiKai:  No not that cap marvel, this cap marvel the one who dwarfed thor's speed
Her power is to move AT LIGHTSPEED
Post by hitsusatsu11 (10,747 posts) See mini bio Level 20
Even Iron man can take thors hits.
 
 Freeza survived planet explosion when he was half dead, Vegeta ssj2 is millions of times stronger.
 
 


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