@eddz99: puars is on par with oolong (which is brick level) i think this actually supports my theory. he cut an oozaru (kid goku on steroids lol easily above moon level) by transforming into common scissors. and he did this more than once so we cant really call it an outliner. i guess i was right. you dont need to have compressed power to damage dragon ball moon busters and above. this reminds me that krillin with no ki at all was gonna kill vegeta with yajirobes katana.