Toriko vs Nappa

Topic started by supernova7005 on June 10, 2013. Last post by 5th 9 months, 1 week ago.
Post by Son_Wukong (221 posts) See mini bio Level 7

@othus12: DBZ characters can and make their physical attacks nearly as strong as their ki blasts by amping it with ki:

For example Piccolo Daimo puts all of his ki in a blast to nuke a city. Then Goku puts all of his ki into his fist to tear through Piccolo.

Piccolo:

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Goku:

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Then 23rd budokai Piccolo puts all his ki in an explosion to nuke an island. Then Goku puts all of his ki into his body in otder to lay the smack down on Piccolo.

Piccolo:

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Goku:

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Although the Piccolo's ki blasts look more impressive Goku's direct and very potent ki punches and kicks have just as much power as he's punching/kicking with the same amount of ki which would be able to destroy a city/island. This is what DBZ characters do all the time also Nappa himself demonstrated this:

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[img]Keep in mind that Nappa has enough ki to easily lay waste to a country so just imagine how powerful his ki punches are.[/img][/spoiler]

Using ki to bypass their physical limitations immensely is why DBZ characters have feats like casually jumping into the troposphere (21st budokai Goku) and casually throwing pillars accross the globe. (Tao Pai Pai) Toriyama himself confirmed this in an interview:

When it comes to battle, the most important thing is ki size, and its control. Of course, “ki” also includes such spiritual power as energy/vigor [genki] and bravery [yuuki], and being in one’s right mind [shouki; could also be translated as "true character"] (note 11). There’s a limit to physical strength, no matter how much you toughen it up, and the only way to overcome that it is with “ki”. I think that it was through turning ki into formidable power that Goku drew closer to being the strongest warrior in the universe.

Also in DBZ gravity/weight training is all about stamina and physical muscle not ki, this is why they train in not not so impressive gravities, it's to strengthen their bodies so it can handle more ki. So yeah Goku's strength limit when not using ki is roughly 40 tons. (and yeah lifting strength =/= striking strength)

This is why base kid Trunks was struggling in 150g (weighing 4 tons) while base namek saga Goku had mastered 100g training (weighing 7 tons). Even though with ki base kid Trunks is much stronger than base namek saga Goku, without ki he's physically weaker than him.

Holy shit how do you make images visible here!?

Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Doesn't Toriko-verse have some mach 600+ speed feats? That should allow him to blitz easily and any concentrated beam can be easily dodged.

The two-finger blast has a very large AoE while Toriko's body is much smaller. Even if it hits him, he'll only be taking a small fraction of the blast.

Post by DBZ_universe (15,499 posts) See mini bio Level 17

Man that's a lot of sites.

Post by taichokage (12,662 posts) See mini bio Level 20
Toriko isn't ending in 1-2 years. Do you follow the manga? The heavenly Kings still have to conquer the Gourmet World, which is many times larger and dangerous than the Human world which has been the entire story up to this point. Toriko probably isn't even half over yet. We've barely seen any of the high tiers in action. I see it being like the big 3. 10-15 years at least. In One Piece's case closer to 25
Post by ChromeDisaster (1,099 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@taichokage: Absolutely. I dont see Toriko ending anytime soon. Have they even discovered one of Acacia's full course yet?

Post by ReiKai (3,463 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@5th said: That's a joke, either of the two wouldn't last a second against SSJ Goku but still a good fight

It wasn't meant to be canon, it was just a fun project they worked on together for the lols and it was pretty damn funny and entertaining, even keeping all the cast members in character. We know Goku would beat them all easy, but in a cross-universe that may bring their base down to about equal status, it would fit rather well. And fighting for Food is definitely something that Goku, Toriko and Luffy would go for. So it was a perfect fit.
Post by taichokage (12,662 posts) See mini bio Level 20
Agreed. In reality Goku>>Toriko>Luffy and by notable margins. But in this intake, Nappa's is very weak when compared to Goku. He would still beat Toriko but he would have to be serious.
Post by SMXLR8 (6,926 posts) See mini bio Level 16

@taichokage: which he's not

Post by DBZ_universe (15,499 posts) See mini bio Level 17

Nappa cause he went to University: P

Post by eddz99 (2,509 posts) See mini bio Level 11

I think this thread should be closed already >,> , Obvious winner of obvious reasons.

Post by DBZ_universe (15,499 posts) See mini bio Level 17

No it shouldn't

Post by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (1,271 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@DBZ_universe said:

Nappa cause he went to University: P

He's the pattycake champion as well

Post by DBZ_universe (15,499 posts) See mini bio Level 17

@The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk said:

@DBZ_universe said:

Nappa cause he went to University: P

He's the pattycake champion as well

He is also a model.

Post by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (1,271 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@DBZ_universe said:

@The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk said:

@DBZ_universe said:

Nappa cause he went to University: P

He's the pattycake champion as well

He is also a model.

And a hollywood director

Post by DBZ_universe (15,499 posts) See mini bio Level 17

@The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk said:

@DBZ_universe said:

@The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk said:

@DBZ_universe said:

Nappa cause he went to University: P

He's the pattycake champion as well

He is also a model.

And a hollywood director

And a Pokémon trainer.

Post by Kuma_From_Argentina (6,632 posts) See mini bio Level 13
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@DBZ_universe: Toriko is like One Piece mixed with Hunter X Hunter, but only they chase behind eyewattering food.

Post by taichokage (12,662 posts) See mini bio Level 20
I'd say it's closer to One Piece mixed with DBZ.
Post by ImDictatorBowDown (1,684 posts) See mini bio Level 12

@taichokage: these are pretty similar concepts

Post by DBZ_universe (15,499 posts) See mini bio Level 17

@Kuma_From_Argentina: I know, I actually started reading it last night. I read some chapters and it was great.

Post by taichokage (12,662 posts) See mini bio Level 20
Other than that, it's a lot more similar to Z. The rapid powerups, the brutality, and the power levels, the notable similarity of the main characters, and the fact that it is implied that Toriko will go into space as well. HXH is a lot more strategic and dialogue heavy.
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