Toph and Katara Vs Hinata and Sakura

Topic started by Fantasma on April 28, 2010. Last post by hitsusatsu11 4 years, 3 months ago.
Post by Fantasma (360 posts) See mini bio Level 7
Fighters are in character. 
Fight takes place at a lake shore.
Please use logic and reasoning behind your answers.
 
Water and Earth bender masters, Vs Byakugan user and Medical nin with super strength.
 


 




Post by BattleHeiz (5,765 posts) See mini bio Level 15
team two wins 
even sakura would be enough
Post by mr_monday (205 posts) See mini bio Level 6
Team two should win this without any problems. Sakura already dealt with harder enemys.
Even if they were going to fight during full moon, team one would loose.
Post by Fantasma (360 posts) See mini bio Level 7
@battleheiz said:
" team two wins  even sakura would be enough "
How would Sakura be enough? care to explain?   both bending masters are experts at long range attacks, Toph can sense vibrations and movement in the terrain, can fire gigantic earth projectiles and encase wide areas in rock and earth, Katara has her personal portable water for close combat protection and range combat attacks, and has an  unlimited water supply at the lake. If you know Avatar, you know what she is capable of producing, I would really like to know how will she win alone? even with Hinata this fight seems to me to be in favor of the benders, that's why I would like to hear reasonable arguments.
@mr_monday said:
" Team two should win this without any problems. Sakura already dealt with harder enemys.Even if they were going to fight during full moon, team one would loose. "
Toph and Katara, have fought harder enemies than Sakura also, so by your logic they should win also right??? No each enemy presents their own difficulty and problems, the benders ability to simply change and shape the environments they fight in, simply give them a great advantage, please state your reasons with arguments.
Post by Nanatsu (322 posts) See mini bio Level 7
The hardest enemy Sakura fought, she required help from a 80 year old.
Post by Fantasma (360 posts) See mini bio Level 7
@Nanatsu said:

" The hardest enemy Sakura fought, she required help from a 80 year old. "

And still it seemed she got the skills to beat an Akatsuki member in an instant, quite difficult to believe.
Post by Nanatsu (322 posts) See mini bio Level 7
@Fantasma said:
" @Nanatsu said:

" The hardest enemy Sakura fought, she required help from a 80 year old. "

And still it seemed she got the skills to beat an Akatsuki member in an instant, quite difficult to believe. "e only seen a
She didn't get the skills. Chiyo did. Everything Sakura did during that fight other than punching was because Chiyo was controlling her. It was only until the end that she had control over her own body and even then Chiyo still had some control.
 
Though ive only seen a few eps of Avatar, im not sure either of team 2 could survive Sakura's punches. She's also been trained by Tsunade to predict her opponents moves.
Post by Fantasma (360 posts) See mini bio Level 7
@Nanatsu said:

" @Fantasma said:

" @Nanatsu said:

" The hardest enemy Sakura fought, she required help from a 80 year old. "

And still it seemed she got the skills to beat an Akatsuki member in an instant, quite difficult to believe. "e only seen a
She didn't get the skills. Chiyo did. Everything Sakura did during that fight other than punching was because Chiyo was controlling her. It was only until the end that she had control over her own body and even then Chiyo still had some control.  Though ive only seen a few eps of Avatar, im not sure either of team 2 could survive Sakura's punches. She's also been trained by Tsunade to predict her opponents moves. "
The point is that she did quite well and survived the fight, even if she had help, she had no experience fighting with that level of opponents and doing that good with a guy who defeated one of the strongest Kazekage in history. She cannot predict the benders move, how is she gonna predict what the water is going to do? or the earth or ground for that matter? If she get's in close she could certainly defeat them, but she has to get in first.
Post by Dream (7,263 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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In favor of Team One. Hinata's attacks are limited to close range and while Sakura would be able to cause fissures with her blows to the ground, Toph would be able to sense the incoming attack and prepare a proper defense via Earthbending. This, combined with the environmental advantage Katara has with Waterbending, would be a devastating defeat for the Naruto girls.
Post by willyvereb (5,914 posts) See mini bio Level 17
@Dream: Well, without the help of familiar ground The Avatar girls have little chance. While earth attacks may come unexpected for the Ninja team frst but they are nimble and fast enough to not hampered by it much. Also they have the advantage of first strike...or at least until they're outside of Toph's range. It means they start the battle a little bit closer. Also Without much water to use Katara is limited to shoot various water/ice based missiles which the Ninja team can easily dodge. Although she can freeze people but both Sakura and especially Hinata has great Chakra control and can nullify it's effects easily. Same with blood-bending. Toph is the tougher opponent but I doubt she can deflect a thrown Kunai or else. And barricading herself would only justify the crazy strength of Sakura.
Without prep or the advantage of terrain the Avatar team has little chance.
Post by BattleHeiz (5,765 posts) See mini bio Level 15
@Fantasma:
Sakura can poison them or catch in genjutsu 
Post by Dream (7,263 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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@willyvereb:  The battleground is a lake shore where the lake water provides enough of a resource for Katara to make ample use of Waterbending which she can make full use of it to her advantage (terrain advantage = Team Avatar) and the only ranged attacks that the Naruto girls will have on hand will be shurikens and the aftershocks of Sakura's blows to the ground if she chooses to resort to such measures. Hinata and Sakura's attacks would only be effective at close-range. Simple attacks like water and ice projectiles would indeed be easy enough for the Naruto girls to evade. But with Toph and Katara both having the ability to alter the battle terrain thanks to their battle environment and being masters of their elemental bending, the chances of victory for the Naruto girls are quite slim.
 
@battleheiz:  Sakura has no genjutsu in her arsenal of attacks.
Post by willyvereb (5,914 posts) See mini bio Level 17
@Dream: Aorry. So she has a water supply to use. Interesting. If she uses that in combination with Toph's earth bending I think we get something like Kisame did...a personal battlefield but even more dangerous. And If Katara can freeze the waters than Sakura gets quickly out of battle. Hinata can protect herself with chakra emission like she did against the crystal element. Although you rule out one important thing. They won't be using those kind of attacks at once as they don't know they may need it. And element-bending is somewhat slow.  The Avatar girls barely have the time for two attacks if the Ninja girls are charging at them. And why wouldn't they. The factor of surprise is at the Ninja girl's hand. They know about attacks with great elemental power but the Avatar girls have no idea about fast opponents like them. As neither Katara or Toph would start off with their wide-scale destructive abilities they are at a disadvantage. Afterall normally you wouldn't fight against everyone with full strenght. And Katara's and Toph's water and earth blocks are ineffective against both opponents. Well, if they're lucky and the Ninja girls attack with a bad match-up(Hinata vs Toph, Katara vs Sakura) then the Avatar girls can counterattack and may win. Not surely though.
In short I give it 60%-40% in the Ninja girls' favor.
It would be either a short battle or mid-long(as the Avatar girls need to get serious). The short battle helps the Ninja girls' side absolutely but in the middle battle, espacially the longer the battle takes the Avatar girls are having more and more chance to win.
Post by hitsusatsu11 (10,734 posts) See mini bio Level 20
in close hinata solos.
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