Battles

Naruto and kakashi could easily solo. Even with speed equal, the two ninjas would either overwhelm/outsmart the new team avatar. If the going really gets tough, Naruto can just use multi shadow clone jutsu and beat the hell out of his opponents by overwhelming them by sheer numbers alone. Then we have Kakashi, who is a great fighter as well as a master of deception. He could easily find a way to trick his opponents or simply come up with a well thought out plan that ends in him trapping his opponents and taking their heads back to the hidden leaf. Im also inclined to say sakura could possibly solo. Even with speed equal, she is still agile and can probably dodge the new team avatars attacks and if she ends up landing a haymaker on any of them its lights out for good

@GIRUGAMESH said:

@Haofan123: Hmm, I think you are giving the Naruto characters too much credit. With speed equal, there is no way Sakura is dodging an onslaught from all 3 of them. Naruto I seriously doubt would outsmart them; at that point in the series he hadn't shown what it takes to do so. Multi-shadow clones may help, but remember that they usually get taken down by barely anything. I see where you are coming from, and will edit it.

I disagree. I think you may be underestimating the naruto characters to much. I never said sakura could definitely solo, but that it was possible. Even without her speed she is still much more agile than any peak human on team avatar. As for naruto, it is true that his shadow clones can get taken down fairely easily, but its the quantity, not the quality that matters here. Team Korra can take down dozens of clones at a time but there would be hundreds more to take thier places and they would eventually get overwhelmed by the sheer numbers. The we have kakashi, who is a great tactician as well as a powerful ninja. while i still maintain that he can solo, team 7 is also a well oiled machine as shown during the gaara retrieval arc during thier fight with fake itachi. With a strategy from kakashi, they would wreck the opposing team, who have never shown the degree of teamwork team 7 has. Even with lin and tenzin, the match still should go any more smoothly for korras team.

Also, if the going gets really rough, Naruto could just dig deep and summon gamabunta. Nuff said

RAPE!

Someone call the cops.

Naruto must of been over estimated big time i say take everyone out and just throw in aang and bring them to current and equal speed so aang can rape them solo.

Any ways this isn't much of a fight cause there is no way of making it even cause the moment you even speed for naruto characters they usually get killed by avatar. like Lee vs Toph in terms of power she rapes him but he out classes her in speed which is the only reason he wins other than speed for naruto characters they aren't really all that powerful. Most of there attacks avatar characters can bend. Even there lightning is weak just up until you use real lightning like sasuke from the sky then even with that he couldn't win as they could redirect that yet again the moment you equal speed naruto loses

@Whats_out_the_bag said:

RAPE!

Someone call the cops.

Naruto must of been over estimated big time i say take everyone out and just throw in aang and bring them to current and equal speed so aang can rape them solo.

Any ways this isn't much of a fight cause there is no way of making it even cause the moment you evil speed for naruto characters they usually get killed by avatar. like Lee vs Toph in terms of power she rapes him but he out classes her in speed which is the only reason he wins other than speed for naruto characters they aren't really all that powerful. Most of there attacks avatar characters can bend. Even there lightning is weak just up until you use real lightning like sasuke from the sky then even with that he couldn't win as they could redirect that yet again the moment you equal speed naruto loses

this is completley false. At his current point in the manga, naruto can solo the entire avatarverse casually. So can killer bee, Madara, itachi, hashirama senju any of the other jinchuriki, and pain. Hell even sasuke has a good chance. and those are only the character who dont even need the speed factor to win like you are trying to say.There are other but i dont really feel like getting into that right now. Also there is no way in hell avatar characters can redirect the kirin. It would be too fast for them to even react to it and they have never been shown to redirect such massive qualities of lightning

@GIRUGAMESH said:

@Haofan123: Whilst all this is true, none of it affects this fight and how it plays out. Of course Naruto>>Avatar in terms of strength, though, hence why I'm using higher tiers of The Legend of Korra against lower-tier (with the restrictions) Naruto characters.

I know, and the members of team 7 should still take this regardless IMO. I already made a case for team 7, now im just stating the obvious

this is completley false. At his current point in the manga, naruto can solo the entire avatarverse casually. So can killer bee, Madara, itachi, hashirama senju any of the other jinchuriki, and pain. Hell even sasuke has a good chance. and those are only the character who dont even need the speed factor to win like you are trying to say.There are other but i dont really feel like getting into that right now. Also there is no way in hell avatar characters can redirect the kirin. It would be too fast for them to even react to it and they have never been shown to redirect such massive qualities of lightning

@Haofan123: Sorry i get like this before bed it was 8am i didn't sleep for a long time lol. But you know now that i'm up we can battle

So yea now that i think about it kirin couldn't be redirected at least not by any non avatar.

But yea this is where you lost me i forgot the name of this justu that allows all of these characters to move even under the control of a blood bender cause i must of misted that episode or is it in the manga?

I really don't think any naruto character can solo the entire verse at least i've not seen one that you have listed that can even tank a lightning strike nor get out of a frozzen ball of ice. But the only thing any of these character could do is use genjustu which a few up on that list have never shown any genjustu skills. Any ways let get on with this thread that team korra wins in cause i still don't see how kakashi takes all of them on cause sakra gets taken out first with a lightning stike naruto is on his way to being beat down since he doesn't have any real hand to hand fighting skills like sasuke at the very least he's never even been known for being a good fighter just has a lot of staminma compared to his other team members.If tenzen gets in and lin then they begin to rape this fight cause no hiding in the bushes will keep you from her as she can see very very far with her FEET.

I shouldn't have to go on into details cause if anyone has truly watched any avatar knows in terms of fighting style they win and in terms of who can ultimatly dish out attacks that will hit it's going to be korra's team as again most of naruto's team attacks are bendable things.

Team Korra can take down dozens of clones at a time but there would be hundreds more to take thier places and they would eventually get overwhelmed by the sheer numbers.

So creating a big earth wave wouldn't kill everyone of those clones which any earth bender could kill in one move...

Whats stoping kora from creating a big wave or wind and blowing them all to hell. One big thing isn't making all of those clones using kyuubi cause it gives him the chraka to do all of that??

Naruto could just dig deep and summon gamabunta

Then he could just get crushed while he's underground with earth benders near him.

Oh agian baout the kyuubi doesn't it give him the chraka to summon him and still have the power to fight?

He has a toad but korra has aang FIGHT OVER

@Whats_out_the_bag: Yes and no the kyuubi does offer Naruto a multitude of chakra but he is also an uzumaki and uzumakis have very large chakra pools.

The list Hao provided would solo Avatarverse Hashirama, Madara, Naruto, Itachi, Pein, and Bee/other jinchruriki would definitely solo

If Amon can dodge the lightning Sakura, Kakashi would cancel it out/dodge and naruto would dodge it.

@Whats_out_the_bag said:

this is completley false. At his current point in the manga, naruto can solo the entire avatarverse casually. So can killer bee, Madara, itachi, hashirama senju any of the other jinchuriki, and pain. Hell even sasuke has a good chance. and those are only the character who dont even need the speed factor to win like you are trying to say.There are other but i dont really feel like getting into that right now. Also there is no way in hell avatar characters can redirect the kirin. It would be too fast for them to even react to it and they have never been shown to redirect such massive qualities of lightning

@Haofan123: Sorry i get like this before bed it was 8am i didn't sleep for a long time lol. But you know now that i'm up we can battle

So yea now that i think about it kirin couldn't be redirected at least not by any non avatar.

But yea this is where you lost me i forgot the name of this justu that allows all of these characters to move even under the control of a blood bender cause i must of misted that episode or is it in the manga?

I really don't think any naruto character can solo the entire verse at least i've not seen one that you have listed that can even tank a lightning strike nor get out of a frozzen ball of ice. But the only thing any of these character could do is use genjustu which a few up on that list have never shown any genjustu skills. Any ways let get on with this thread that team korra wins in cause i still don't see how kakashi takes all of them on cause sakra gets taken out first with a lightning stike naruto is on his way to being beat down since he doesn't have any real hand to hand fighting skills like sasuke at the very least he's never even been known for being a good fighter just has a lot of staminma compared to his other team members.If tenzen gets in and lin then they begin to rape this fight cause no hiding in the bushes will keep you from her as she can see very very far with her FEET.

I shouldn't have to go on into details cause if anyone has truly watched any avatar knows in terms of fighting style they win and in terms of who can ultimatly dish out attacks that will hit it's going to be korra's team as again most of naruto's team attacks are bendable things.

Team Korra can take down dozens of clones at a time but there would be hundreds more to take thier places and they would eventually get overwhelmed by the sheer numbers.

So creating a big earth wave wouldn't kill everyone of those clones which any earth bender could kill in one move...

Whats stoping kora from creating a big wave or wind and blowing them all to hell. One big thing isn't making all of those clones using kyuubi cause it gives him the chraka to do all of that??

Naruto could just dig deep and summon gamabunta

Then he could just get crushed while he's underground with earth benders near him.

Oh agian baout the kyuubi doesn't it give him the chraka to summon him and still have the power to fight?

He has a toad but korra has aang FIGHT OVER

Ah, i havent had a good debate in ages. Well, lets get down to buisness.

Naruto has shown hand to hand skills on many occasions, so you would be incorrect in saying that he isnt good at things like that, especially during part 1 where all of his attacks were ones that had to be preformed up close and personal. While it could be argued that he was aided by his clones in many of his endevors, it hardly matters when you consdier the fact that an unzumaki barage would kill anyone on team korra if they were hit with it.

As for team korra wiping out all of narutos clones with a wall of earth and water, thats laughable at best. There are simply too many clones and not enough destructive feats that say team korra can pull that off

Sure, elemental attacks are bendable, but that doesnt mean they wouldnt work.Just because someone can bend an elemnet doesnt mena they cant be bested by it. Thats like saying, "hey, Katara can beat Amon simply because shes also a water bender"

And like ive said before, if the going gets tough naruto could just summon Bunta and team avatar would die. And when i said dig deep it was a figure of speech lol.

@Destinyheroknight

understand what i'm going to tell them this isn't no walk in the part for team 7 they really don't have much against a ready to kill avatar.

True it surely has been a long time since i have to debate lol this but oh well.

And like ive said before, if the going gets tough naruto could just summon Bunta and team avatar would die. And when i said dig deep it was a figure of speech lol.

@CerberusPrime3k

The list Hao provided would solo Avatarverse Hashirama, Madara, Naruto, Itachi, Pein, and Bee/other jinchruriki would definitely solo
If Amon can dodge the lightning Sakura, Kakashi would cancel it out/dodge and naruto would dodge it.

Again what justu are they using to stop them selfs from being blood bended??

Also how can you compare amon to sakura and kakashi we don't know amons speed all we know his he dodge lightning i don't care to argue cause to you think naruto can dodge it just cause you think he's faster doesn't matter whos faster when speed is equal also he doesn't have nine tails which means he's no faster than any other person in naruto.

Naruto has shown hand to hand skills on many occasions, so you would be incorrect in saying that he isnt good at things like that, especially during part 1 where all of his attacks were ones that had to be preformed up close and personal. While it could be argued that he was aided by his clones in many of his endevors, it hardly matters when you consdier the fact that an unzumaki barage would kill anyone on team korra if they were hit with it.

Yea it's not bad at hand to hand combat but notthing compared to what korra has done she's on another level in fighting if we took away all powers and speed and let these two fight she would clearly win but the thing that gives her the egde she can disk out so many different combinations to help give her the edge like mixing wind and fire to quick know people over and then hit them with a more harder attack like earth or maybe even water.

As for team korra wiping out all of narutos clones with a wall of earth and water, thats laughable at best. There are simply too many clones and not enough destructive feats that say team korra can pull that off

Wow man what you just said is laughable first how can naruto's very weak clones come up and over power them even when their using a earth wave attack and whipe them out. Last time i checked naruto couldn't fly so he's going to be wiped out.

http://youtu.be/w_Ko7VusR04

(An earth wave kind of like what toph did when she escaped from the metal cage)

In this clip above you should see how easily it is for them to win with earth bending now if that wasn't enough we have not one not two but three earth benders as well as two fire benders and two air benders so the battle is already in there favor for what

Team korra

• Distance attacks
• Close range attacks
• More people
• More abillets to use
• More destructive capabilities

Team 7

• Smart leader whos skilled in fighting
• Good at hiding
• Have lots of tools
• Can create more people
• Good at creating a plan

Sure, elemental attacks are bendable, but that doesnt mean they wouldnt work.Just because someone can bend an elemnet doesnt mena they cant be bested by it. Thats like saying, "hey, Katara can beat Amon simply because shes also a water bender"

Other than those korra's team wins again in terms of who has the best advantages. No it's not like saying katara can beat amon just cause she's a water bender cause no one in naruto other than garra has shown any type of full control over his element. Most of the cast just shoots out fire or creates an earth beased attack wich all of that can be smacked away or just taken over. In Naruto most of the characters like kakashi shoots out a water dragon with korra could just bend to hit kakashi. The jutsu isn't controlled by the ninja they just summon it or create it never controlled it which is why it's so easy to get there jutsu's reversed on them.

Now if a water bender fought another water bend one could not just freazze one another cuase they would get out cause they both could control the water. This is the diffrence bettween team 7 and team korra one can completly control nearly the others attacks.

And like ive said before, if the going gets tough naruto could just summon Bunta and team avatar would die. And when i said dig deep it was a figure of speech lol.

So whats stopping korra to go into avatar state and rape the entire team 7.

Also she could actually go deep underground and start pulling people under kind of like kakashi did naruto or was that sasuke?? I think he did that to naruto either way Korra wins.

@Whats_out_the_bag: so many points to cover so little time. Lets star off with korras martial arts vs naruto. In hand to hand combat Naruto would absolutely wreck korra. His physical strength alone would be to much for her. He has been able to tank blows from sasuke who was KOing 50 foot bears with his kicks pre timeskip so theres pretty much nothing Korra can do to injure him with her fists whereas naruto can cave in her ribcage with a well placed punch. The same goes for the rest of the team.

The video you posted was absolutely pointless. Last time i checked toph was long dead and not on team Korra. Nobody on team Korra has shown the destructive capabilites to wipe out hundreds of shadow clones at a time. If you can post a clip of anyone on team korra with any destructive capacity that proves me wrong i will concede that point, but I know that you cant because such feats simply do not exist, and even if the do naruto would simply make more

As for Korra going avatar state, the 10 minute time period she has to wait to do so as per the OP crushes your arguement. Before you try and ssay that avatar is stronger than Naruto and only loses because they are nerfed, Id like to remind you that there is a good reason why the Kyuubi and the Kamui are banned in this fight.

Korra ambushing team 7 from underground would siply never happen because it isnt her character and she has never been shown to do such things so why would she now? Besides kakashi would just sniff her out if she tried. I dont see how lin and tenzin would be a threat either. Kakashi would pretty much kill both of them by himslef anyway, especially lin since he could just use his lightning jutsus on her metal wires and deep fry her

My Bunta arguement still stands as well

Team 7 wins

@Whats_out_the_bag: Also, what do you mean what is stopping the people i listed form being blood bended? how about the fact that they can blitz any blood bender in the Avatar verse (this match may have speed equal, but not this arguement.) and the fact that they are phyiscally stronger than anyone who has been a victim of bloodbending. If i were to list the people who could beat anyone in the avatar verse due to a speedblitz, the list would get even longer. Avatar just isnt the godly verse you think it is when it is compared with casual mountain busting monsters and a man who created the moon on his deathbed

@Destinyheroknight: Wait wait wait hold up lol blood bending is something me and Hao were talking about doesn't really tie into this post. Also who on this team possible the ablilty to stop chi from following ??

Also, what do you mean what is stopping the people i listed form being blood bended? how about the fact that they can blitz any blood bender in the Avatar verse (this match may have speed equal, but not this arguement.) and the fact that they are phyiscally stronger than anyone who has been a victim of bloodbending. If i were to list the people who could beat anyone in the avatar verse due to a speedblitz, the list would get even longer. Avatar just isnt the godly verse you think it is when it is compared with casual mountain busting monsters and a man who created the moon on his deathbed

Are you forgetting the very thing you have stated??

and those are only the character who dont even need the speed factor to win like you are trying to say

Like i said before how can they beat blood bending with out speed ??

so many points to cover so little time. Lets star off with korras martial arts vs naruto. In hand to hand combat Naruto would absolutely wreck korra. His physical strength alone would be to much for her. He has been able to tank blows from sasuke who was KOing 50 foot bears with his kicks pre timeskip so theres pretty much nothing Korra can do to injure him with her fists whereas naruto can cave in her ribcage with a well placed punch. The same goes for the rest of the team.

lol ok theres a thing called comical effect where a character does something in human just for the perpose of comedy when he gets hit it's only for comedy lets list some anime where this happens.

In InuYasha shippo gets punched in the head by inuyasha someone who can left what a 10,20 ton bouder so by what you just said shippo can tank that much foces or some where around it.

In FMA Brotherhood ed gets hit and his brother says "I got your soul brother" Eds soul was floating out of his body cause it's was only for the purpose of comedy.

Now naruto can so call tank a hit from saraku do you really think shes going to hit him with at full power?? /

If that wasn't enough being able to tank a hit doesn't mean you can dish it out as everyone knows sakra is stronger than naruto in terms of strengh. Her teacher is clearly the strongest character in the anime/manga yet doesn't really mean she can beat anyone.

So lets bring this thing home so naruto hasn't ever shown any fighting skills at Korra's level in terms of fighting he isn't even better than Ed aka fma. Don't compare the chi blockers to anyone in naruto cause the cloest people who can even compare to chi blockers are neji mixed with rock lee thats how good the chi blockers are basicly the will mess up your movement even if naruto was just battling them in terms of skill in hand to hand combat he would be knocked out.

Any theres nothing she can do to injure him?? How many times did he ever get hurt or bleed ?? Theres not nine tails helping him he doesn't have any of his big level energy nothing he's no different than saskura the only thing that sakura has on him is she's skilled in many diffrent jutsu also naruto is so limmited to how much chraka he can use seeing he doesn't have that big monster to help him out. If this was a fight bettween current naruto i'll hands down give it to him but he's really nothing with out the nine tails. Kind of like saying InuYasha gets his demon powers taken around his feats don't really matter cause he no long has the power to tank any of that stuff.

The video you posted was absolutely pointless. Last time i checked toph was long dead and not on team Korra. Nobody on team Korra has shown the destructive capabilites to wipe out hundreds of shadow clones at a time. If you can post a clip of anyone on team korra with any destructive capacity that proves me wrong i will concede that point, but I know that you cant because such feats simply do not exist, and even if the do naruto would simply make more

WAIT i could of sweared we had had tophs dauther here??? I'm pretty sure all of that can be done a little bit better seeing how her dauther has already shown better stills in combat and in metal bending.

Now the point of that video was to show you earth bending not to show you that character if one character can throw a rock to the wall why couldn't another character with that same power??

Yea i'm pretty sure korra can do all of that other than the feet seeing thing which lin can come in and do.

Doesn't matter if they show us or not cause we clearly know benders have that power to do this stuff it's not like it's the hardest thing ever.

As for Korra going avatar state, the 10 minute time period she has to wait to do so as per the OP crushes your arguement. Before you try and ssay that avatar is stronger than Naruto and only loses because they are nerfed, Id like to remind you that there is a good reason why the Kyuubi and the Kamui are banned in this fight.
Korra ambushing team 7 from underground would siply never happen because it isnt her character and she has never been shown to do such things so why would she now? Besides kakashi would just sniff her out if she tried. I dont see how lin and tenzin would be a threat either. Kakashi would pretty much kill both of them by himslef anyway, especially lin since he could just use his lightning jutsus on her metal wires and deep fry her
My Bunta arguement still stands as well

Ok did you really think i'm not going to notice how you just contradicted your self.

So first off i'm pretty sure thay can last ten mins as tensen can nearly push everyone back with ease, but i don't want to relie one him i just want to crush your argument cause you think it stands. Now you just told me that korra wouldn't go under ground cause it's out of her character ok i''ll take that but now you have to follow your own statement first this bunta statement when did naruto start summoning him for a battle type like this last time i checked it's in character for him to summon his toad when he's battling another summoning or a monster.

oh yea one quick thing lin and tenzin beats the hell out of kakashi do you really think he could even take on a toph like fighter while fighting someone as strong as adult aang in air bending?? Let me answer it's a no cause he hasn't never shown any jutsu's can could just take this guys out as tenzin should be able to do the same as his father.

@Whats_out_the_bag:

I never contradicted myself when saying that there were several characters that could solo Avatar. I said that those were the ones that did not require speed in order to win, however they can still outright blitz in the first place so it doesnt matter either way. If i included people like the riakage and minato however whos movesets are solely based on speed, the list would skyrocket. Furthermore, your question was to how said characters would counter bloodbending. I responded by saying that speedblitz would be a possiblity.

I made the reasons why they can resist bloodbending clear as well. If being Leagues physically stronger than anyone in LoK who has been bloodbended isnt proof enough for you, how about the fact that LoKs resident manwhore AKA Mako was able to resist it and hit the user with a bolt of lighting? If someone of Makos physical calibur can do it, then any of the ninja I listed would go to town on any bloodbender in the series.

knocking out a giant bear wasnt comical effect either. It isnt like these kids are superhuman ninjas or anything right? lol in addition to that, like I said, naruto is much physically stonger than korra and Korra is peak human at best. Naruto regularly fights people leauges above her physically on a daily basis, so yes, your point is moot. Also, why would this even get close and personal when he can just whip up multiple shadow clones and beat her and her whole team into submission? I reread the Gaara vs Naruto last night and Naruto stated that he had around 1000 clones at his disposal. Your agruement that Naruto is more useless than sakura without the Kyuubi is also a groundless claim. As soeone mentioned beforehand, Naruto is an Uzumaki, which means that his chakra reserves are massive even without the Nine tails. He would wipe out team Korra with just sheer numbers alone, A point which you have yet to refute because you keep posting feats of peoples parents instead of their actual feats which means nothing other than that you are getting desperate due to the fact that they have none to speak of themselves

So what if we have tophs daughter? has she shown anything remotely close to what her mother has done? No she has not. Either post clips or stop relying on the past to win the current match

lol contradicting myslef? I specifically said that if naruto was backed into a corner he could summon Gamabunta. He has done this before during his fight with Gaara when he was almost crushed to death by Gaaras sand Burial, so yes,yes he would, whereas Korra has never shown to use such tactics.

What proof do you have that tenzin and Lin are as strong as their parents? they were routinely getting tazed by peak humans 90% of the times they fought. I gauruntee you that if I were to post all of tenzin and lins matches, almost every single one of them would end in them getting tazed by some cannon fodder equalist. They are screwed if they go up against someone like kakashi. Like I said before, Lightning+Lin=Fried Bei Fong and you know that i am right

I dont see the point of continuing this debate since im pretty much refuting the same points over and over again. Besides, if you scroll up, you will see that this arguement is 3 to 1 in Narutos favor anyway. I did what I came here to do and I will take my leave unless you have any other points you would like to discuss.

I found out this thread/dicussion seemed quite interesting, so I decided to post something on it lol

Change this fight to everybody in the Avatar universe vs Madara Uchiha (with speed equalized) and there won't even be much to talk about.. I'll make this very short and clear, so listen up. SUSANOO IS GOING TO RAPE THE SHIT OUT OF ALL OF THEM! No Arugments.

Overall though, Team Kakashi > Team Korra

Why?

Becuase I said so, ya fool!