Superman & Goku vs Hulk & Vegeta

Topic started by nevergiveup on Dec. 13, 2008. Last post by JThree47693 4 years, 10 months ago.
Post by hiei_hyabusha (869 posts) See mini bio Level 10
no where near lightspeed
Post by Villelater (301 posts) See mini bio Level 4
he did with little effort
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Post by hiei_hyabusha (869 posts) See mini bio Level 10
still not lightspeed
Post by Villelater (301 posts) See mini bio Level 4
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Post by hiei_hyabusha (869 posts) See mini bio Level 10
why do you keep showing scans that dont prove he is light speed?
Post by Villelater (301 posts) See mini bio Level 4
becuase i already showed them
Post by DJSNuva1 (3,347 posts) See mini bio Level 11
Superman beats Goku...

The Superman VS Goku fight is quite possibly the biggest comic/manga crossover ever. No matter how much each side debates, there is never a full conclusion drawn.

Every DBZ fan boy will tell you Goku would take this fight easily. This is simply and plainly wrong.

And you know there are versions of Superman that are not weak against Kryptonite? In Kingdom Come, Due to a lifetime of absorbing yellow-solar radiation, he is more powerful than ever, and is even immune to kryptonite.



The first matter of discussion in balance of power is The Sword Of Superman. The sword formed during creation's Big Bang with an "S" logo emblazoned in its handle; this "Sword of Superman" floats around space for centuries until it finally comes into contact with Superman. When Superman grasps the sword, it begins to make him an all-powerful, all-knowing super deity.


http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/SOS.jpg


Second matter of business. Superman sat in the sun for a millennia and became practically omnipotent, a.k.a One Million Superman, a.k.a Sun-Dipped Superman. He is capable to travelling faster than the speed of light, he is also strong enough to punch through the time barrier, leap between planets and invulnerable to practically everything. Along with the traditional Kryptonian senses ten new abilities were added to the Dynasty by the marriage of a Superman to Queen Gzntplzk of the Fifth Dimension. These new abilities include techno-rapport (the ability to control computers), limited control of magnetism, genesis level intellect, super-ESP (a form of super-hypnosis), no longer as susceptible to magic, the ability to think billions of different lines of thought at the same time, etc.



http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/466531-35_dccomics1m4pg18_super.jpg

Numba Three. The Feats of Pre-Crisis Superman are just damn unbelievable.


Feat 1: Destroying a solar system with a sneeze.

 http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/supersneezeae9og9.jpg


Feat 2: Superman towing planets

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/Superboytowingplanets.jpg


Feat 3: Blowing a sun into a space cloud:

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/SUPES.jpg

Feat 4: Blowing the Earth back into Orbit


http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/pc1dc4.jpg


These are just a few of the feats I see in the silver age comics. Superman once traveled so fast that he was destroying the fabric of space and time and the Spectre had to show up and tell him to slow the hell down. There was once a story where Superman, standing in front of Lois Lane, heard the cries of another galaxy, and, within the time it took Lois to blink, had flown to said galaxy, ended the problem, and returned without her even noticing. He has re-ignited a sun by crashing two moons together and lighting them with his heat vision. All-Star Superman. This guy is freakin’ unbeatable.

Number 4.Goku can only lift like 40 tons; here are scans of Goku in Other World, preparing for the Tenkaichi Budokai:

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/kjhk.jpg
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/kjjkm.jpg

Here is an example of Superman’s Strength:

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/as1xf1.jpg

No matter how you draw it out, 200 Quintillion tons >>>>>>>>>>>>40 tons. That is a huge gap that Goku just can’t overcome.

Here are some other Superman Feats:

Phasing through punches:

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/supermanfast3ar.jpg


Proof that superman's heat vision is hotter than stars

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/supermansheatvision30nk.jpg


Holding a black Hole

 http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/SupesblackholeJLA77.jpg

Feat 2: breaking through dimension walls:

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/untitled.jpg


Here are scans of Superman escaping a double black hole:

 http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/untitled128qt3bk.jpg
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/untitled138wy8fy.jpg
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/untitled140kt3ew.jpg
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/untitled152oe8eq.jpg
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/untitled166ov4wo.jpg

To really decide a victor in this battle, the thing we have to do in this arguement is look at the two characters on an equal footing, not superman at his weakest, and Goku at his strongest, vice versa.

So nothing like 1M supes Vs. Goku from the beginning of Dragonball, nor end of DBGT Goku Vs. Supes that lost to Doomsday.

On an equal fair correct footing, you've just about got SSJ4 Goku Vs. Pre-crisis Superman, and Supes has got the fight pretty handily. Or Goku DB Vs. Post crisis supes, or DBZ Goku Vs. All-Star Superman, or DBGT Goku vs 1M supes with 5th dimmension powers. When you look at this equal footing, Superman takes the fight pretty handily.

And one more thing, speculation is the BASIS of Goku fanboy arguments. Did Goku ever destroy a universe? NO! Did he ever destroy a Solar System? NO! Did he ever explicitly go FTL? NO NO NO! They say "powerlevel 500, he can do this, powerlevel one million, he kills god" etc. How can you actually prove that???

Post by Sonata (35,160 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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LOL but Supes and Goku are on the same team here, Hulk is the only one in this fight that cant fly, so all Supes and Goku really need to do is keep the fight in the air. Vegeta stands no chance aganist Supes and Goku by himself so he is quickly Defeated. Then they can both focus on Hulk and take him down easily as well.

Supes and Goku have a higher probably of working to together better than Hulk and Vegeta.
Post by DJSNuva1 (3,347 posts) See mini bio Level 11
@Sonata said:
"LOL but Supes and Goku are on the same team here, Hulk is the only one in this fight that cant fly, so all Supes and Goku really need to do is keep the fight in the air. Vegeta stands no chance aganist Supes and Goku by himself so he is quickly Defeated. Then they can both focus on Hulk and take him down easily as well.Supes and Goku have a higher probably of working to together better than Hulk and Vegeta."

Oh wow, I thought the battle was Goku and Vegeta Vs Supes and Hulk... Hmmm... Supes and Goku deff win.
Post by FLCL1 (3,935 posts) See mini bio Level 7
SUPERMAN CANT BEAT HULK
Post by Kelleth (7,777 posts) See mini bio Level 20
Moderator
@FLCL1 said:
" SUPERMAN CANT BEAT HULK "
Stop abusing the Caps Lock button please.
Post by DJSNuva1 (3,347 posts) See mini bio Level 11
@FLCL1 said:
"SUPERMAN CANT BEAT HULK "

Was that a joke?
Post by JThree47693 (1,081 posts) See mini bio Level 5
Superman and Goku would take this. Superman can beat the Hulk, Goku can beat Vegeta.
Post by DJSNuva1 (3,347 posts) See mini bio Level 11
@JThree47693 said:
"Superman and Goku would take this. Superman can beat the Hulk, Goku can beat Vegeta. "

No need for debate.


'Nuff said.
Post by Acer (5,676 posts) See mini bio Level 11
Either one of team one can solo this.
Post by DJSNuva1 (3,347 posts) See mini bio Level 11
@Acer said:
"Either one of team one can solo this. "

No arguement there. I think we've all agreed on that.
Post by FLCL1 (3,935 posts) See mini bio Level 7

facepalm award goes to*drum roll*  Villelater!!!!!!!!! words dont discribe the stupidity
Post by cfatalis (19,150 posts) See mini bio Level 15
welll, you combine two of the most debated characther i have ever seen, in one team, while you put two wannabe 'most powerfull' on the other, yes i can see the result
Post by FLCL1 (3,935 posts) See mini bio Level 7
@cfatalis said:
"welll, you combine two of the most debated characther i have ever seen, in one team, while you put two wannabe 'most powerfull' on the other, yes i can see the result "
 
yea there is so much rape on this thread hulk and vegeta's gonna need therapy 

@DJSNuva1 said:
"Superman beats Goku...

The Superman VS Goku fight is quite possibly the biggest comic/manga crossover ever. No matter how much each side debates, there is never a full conclusion drawn.

Every DBZ fan boy will tell you Goku would take this fight easily. This is simply and plainly wrong.

And you know there are versions of Superman that are not weak against Kryptonite? In Kingdom Come, Due to a lifetime of absorbing yellow-solar radiation, he is more powerful than ever, and is even immune to kryptonite.



The first matter of discussion in balance of power is The Sword Of Superman. The sword formed during creation's Big Bang with an "S" logo emblazoned in its handle; this "Sword of Superman" floats around space for centuries until it finally comes into contact with Superman. When Superman grasps the sword, it begins to make him an all-powerful, all-knowing super deity.


http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/SOS.jpg


Second matter of business. Superman sat in the sun for a millennia and became practically omnipotent, a.k.a One Million Superman, a.k.a Sun-Dipped Superman. He is capable to travelling faster than the speed of light, he is also strong enough to punch through the time barrier, leap between planets and invulnerable to practically everything. Along with the traditional Kryptonian senses ten new abilities were added to the Dynasty by the marriage of a Superman to Queen Gzntplzk of the Fifth Dimension. These new abilities include techno-rapport (the ability to control computers), limited control of magnetism, genesis level intellect, super-ESP (a form of super-hypnosis), no longer as susceptible to magic, the ability to think billions of different lines of thought at the same time, etc.



http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/466531-35_dccomics1m4pg18_super.jpg

Numba Three. The Feats of Pre-Crisis Superman are just damn unbelievable.


Feat 1: Destroying a solar system with a sneeze.

  http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/supersneezeae9og9.jpg


Feat 2: Superman towing planets

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/Superboytowingplanets.jpg


Feat 3: Blowing a sun into a space cloud:

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/SUPES.jpg

Feat 4: Blowing the Earth back into Orbit


http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/pc1dc4.jpg


These are just a few of the feats I see in the silver age comics. Superman once traveled so fast that he was destroying the fabric of space and time and the Spectre had to show up and tell him to slow the hell down. There was once a story where Superman, standing in front of Lois Lane, heard the cries of another galaxy, and, within the time it took Lois to blink, had flown to said galaxy, ended the problem, and returned without her even noticing. He has re-ignited a sun by crashing two moons together and lighting them with his heat vision. All-Star Superman. This guy is freakin’ unbeatable.

Number 4.Goku can only lift like 40 tons; here are scans of Goku in Other World, preparing for the Tenkaichi Budokai:

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/kjhk.jpg
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/kjjkm.jpg

Here is an example of Superman’s Strength:

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/as1xf1.jpg

No matter how you draw it out, 200 Quintillion tons >>>>>>>>>>>>40 tons. That is a huge gap that Goku just can’t overcome.

Here are some other Superman Feats:

Phasing through punches:

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/supermanfast3ar.jpg


Proof that superman's heat vision is hotter than stars

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/supermansheatvision30nk.jpg


Holding a black Hole

  http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/SupesblackholeJLA77.jpg

Feat 2: breaking through dimension walls:

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/untitled.jpg


Here are scans of Superman escaping a double black hole:

  http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/untitled128qt3bk.jpg
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/untitled138wy8fy.jpg
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/untitled140kt3ew.jpg
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/untitled152oe8eq.jpg
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd84/DJSNuva1/untitled166ov4wo.jpg

To really decide a victor in this battle, the thing we have to do in this arguement is look at the two characters on an equal footing, not superman at his weakest, and Goku at his strongest, vice versa.

So nothing like 1M supes Vs. Goku from the beginning of Dragonball, nor end of DBGT Goku Vs. Supes that lost to Doomsday.

On an equal fair correct footing, you've just about got SSJ4 Goku Vs. Pre-crisis Superman, and Supes has got the fight pretty handily. Or Goku DB Vs. Post crisis supes, or DBZ Goku Vs. All-Star Superman, or DBGT Goku vs 1M supes with 5th dimmension powers. When you look at this equal footing, Superman takes the fight pretty handily.

And one more thing, speculation is the BASIS of Goku fanboy arguments. Did Goku ever destroy a universe? NO! Did he ever destroy a Solar System? NO! Did he ever explicitly go FTL? NO NO NO! They say "powerlevel 500, he can do this, powerlevel one million, he kills god" etc. How can you actually prove that???

"

dude go to the superman vs goku thread with that and yes goku has a chance at beating superman
Post by Supercool99 (207 posts) See mini bio Level 1

nice to see goku and superman together, they are very alike, team 1 wins. 
Goku vs silver age superman is a good fight.
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