Jesus Christ helps us. The end is near.
" I go with Gogeta. Based on powerscaling quite easily to. Vegeto broke through universe shattering power against mystic buu, early villains in GT were stated as having higher ki's then majin buu, Yi Xing Long had the power to consume the universe and afterlife with his minus energy, yet Gogeta far exceeds this. Gogeta also has attacks stronger in magnitude than the universal Genkidama, since he had the power to destroy Yi Xing Long. By my calculations I have early Z characters at FTL fighting speed, end Z much faster, end GT much faster, a fusion of two of these much much faster. (Potara fusion multiplies powers together, metamorese fusion is similar) Also Gogeta would have all of Vegeta and Goku's techniques, meaning he can use Instant Movement in battle (shunkan ido) Another thing to note is SBP was amped up on guardian power when he fought Monarch, at regular levels he is not that strong, he is stronger than Superman but punches from the Martian Manhunter have hurt him. "Hitsu don't feed the troll. You know Superman vs goku threads are banned.
"What is this? i smell....i smell a spite thread.
Superboy prime with ease "
"Yet he punched someone across the entire world in on punch. "
" @Hellos: Ah ic, low showing count for DB but not the Silver Surfer. "
"@Hellos: I could give you many reasons why GT>Z"
At best I figure you could argue energy projection, in DBZ their durability, strength and speed is leagues better. That and since GT is non canon your stuck with attacks with charge times, while this isn't much of an issue for the canon DBU.
"1) base GT goku is on par with a fully trained Uub, which should be = to kid buu. "
Problem is Uub from GT isn't as strong as the Buu from DBZ. Not even close.
"2) Goku says Rildo's ki exceeds that of Majin Buu's "
GTverses Majin Buu < DBZ Majin Buu.
"3) Goku says Bebi Vegeta's;s ki is the strongest saiyan power he has ever felt (pre ssj4) "
Again Goku or Vegeta could likely wipe the floor with anyone in GT.
"4) Goku kid base form shatters a dimension (Surgo's), this feat is comparable to that of ssj3 Gotenks and Supa Buu. "
With his Kamehameha I wish I could say it was more impressive but all I've got to go off is some character somehow knowing the power output of a galaxy and stating Goku's attack was at that level, which I wouldn't begin to have a clue as to how it shatters dimensional barriers.
SSJ3 Gotenks and Super Buu could destroy the DBU by yelling collapsing their universe > Goku using energy projection.
I'm sorry I just don't view the non canon GT as anywhere on the DBZ radar.
Like I said, going through mountains like paper vs having trouble knocking people through a building.
" @TheManipulater said:Correct, this thread should be locked before it gets out of hand.@hitsusatsu11 said:
"What is this? i smell....i smell a spite thread.Against anything in GT. Goku couldn't even punch someone through a building in one punch and his durability went down the crapper. Even fused with Vegeta he's going to be fighting the walking piece of PIS that was the character Rainbow Boy Prime on OAN roids. "
Superboy prime with ease "
" @Hellos: Surgo saying the thing about the galaxy is a dub line. But anyway he shattered the dimension where Gotenks simply broke through it. GTverse Buu is Zverse Buu. "If you think gogeta wins, say it, if not your wasting everybodys time and yours