SS4 Gogeta vs Saint Seiya

Topic started by Kinasin on Oct. 29, 2010. Last post by TheVectorPrime 2 years ago.
Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11


Post by SilverGalford (2,951 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@eddz99 said:


and gogeta still dies.

Here goku lifts part of a city back into place.

and struggling.

and seriously i hope you don't use those weak feats to make Gogeta a match for Seiya,cause he can't even scratch him.

Post by debeze (222 posts) See mini bio Level 9

we dont know any feats of SSJ4 GOGETA he appeared like for 10 minutes on the show -,-


Post by SpeedForceSpider (5,180 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Seiya wins for GT being a terrible show ;)

Post by ArtsyGal (70 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Seiya stomps so badly it's not even funny. You're putting a planet buster against a universe buster. Not a good move.

Post by debeze (222 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@ArtsyGal: let it die.. we dont know any features of this ssj4 gogeta dude... 10 minutes cmon.... >.>

Post by SMXLR8 (8,384 posts) See mini bio Level 16
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@debeze: so what gogeta still dies

Post by 5th (1,508 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Seiya runs circles around Gogeta and then proceeds to Lolstomp him with a single punch.

Seriously, is this a joke thread or are you all serious?

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@SMXLR8: Nah it was actually not stated, gogeta might just have been using 0.0001% of his power, he is right 10 minutes sucks.

Post by Fehafare (9,673 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Seiya rapes on many levels.

Post by Redmonkeyssj4 (21 posts) See mini bio Level 7

The following basically talks about Goku's power level and then ties it in with Gogeta.

With the way power levels increase in DBZ, by the end of the Frieza saga Goku was likely capable of mass destruction on a galactic scale. Which brings me to my next point. Some will call this next point non-canon in the extreme as this is a movie reference. If you wish to do that, that's your choice. I do believe the movies follow the same "rules" as the anime/manga though. There is actually one power level stated to be higher than SS Frieza saga Goku. According to V-Jump magazing, LSS Broly has a power level of 1.4 billion.

Broly destroys the entire South Galaxy in his movie. That's a rather misleading term though, and probably doesn't mean what you think it does. In real life, a galaxy is 50-100 billion planets. There are about 600 sextillion planets in the observable universe. The South Galaxy in DBZ is not a typical real life galaxy, it is one quarter of the universe. So assuming our universes are the same size, Broly destroyed about 150 sextillion planets in one blast. I believe it's been shown that at higher super saiyan forms, possibly as early as FPSS, Goku is stronger than Broly. As a super saiyan 3, Goku is certainly more powerful than Broly, and super saiyan 3s have been shown to be able to break the laws of reality. So it's likely that SS3 Goku could destroy the universe, maybe even reality itself. How fast is Goku though? Well, there's only two good events that you can use to measure speed in DBZ. One is the kamehameha wave from Cooler's Revenge. In about 10 seconds, Goku's kamehameha wave reached from the Earth to the Sun, making it about 50 times faster than the speed of light. Therefore, anyone that can dodge SS1 Goku's kamehameha wave, or even see it, has to be at least 50 times faster than the speed of light. Why is seeing it important? In DBZ, there are many times that the characters move faster than other characters can see. So basically, any villain post SS1 that can keep up with Goku can move at least 50 times faster than lightspeed.

The other case is a little more extreme though. When Vegeta uses The Final Flash against Cell. It's clearly shown that his blast leaves our solar system and explodes on a far away planet/star. The closest planet to our solar system is 10.5 lightyears away. That's 31556926 light seconds. It got there in only 20 seconds, therefore The Final Flash moves at least 1577846.3 times faster than lightspeed. And that was just ascended Super Saiyan Vegeta. Keep in mind perfect Cell saw this attack coming, yet is unable to see SS2 Gohan's movements. And SS3 Goku is obviously far stronger and faster. I don't think Goku would even need to transform to beat Pre Crisis Superman. He could likely kill him with a single finger. To put another nail in the coffin though, let's talk about fighting skills.

Goku is a world champion martial artist that continuously trains to better himself. Many times he has fought evenly with beings of similar or greater power.If Goku's power level increases at the same rate till the end of DBGT as it does till the end of the Frieza saga, as a SS4 Goku would have a PL of roughly 939 Quinoctogintillion. For reference that is a 260 digit number. A PL of 14,600 is required to destroy an earth sized planet. There are about 2 nonillion earths worth of mass in the universe. That means SS4 Goku can destroy the universe about 32 OCTOSEXAGINTILLION TIMES OVER. There's a reason they made Goku a god at the end of GT, and by then ssj4 Goku=ssj4 Vegeta< ssj4 Gogeta.....point proven.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@Redmonkeyssj4: Dude.. you're so deeeep

Post by Kurohige (3,792 posts) See mini bio Level 19

@Redmonkeyssj4: So you're saying Goku is a god that can destroy 32 OCTOSEXAGINTILLION universes that moves well over 1577846.3 times faster than lightspeed? Wow, that is deep.

Post by SpeedForceSpider (5,180 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@Kurohige: LOL

Post by 5th (1,508 posts) See mini bio Level 10


50 times faster than the speed of light is walking in the SS verse

Post by KingOfAsh (1,403 posts) See mini bio Level 15

So Saint Seiya is all like PEW PEW PEW! And Gogeta is all like (dies).

Post by ROBOT6661 (358 posts) See mini bio Level 7

wait since when is seiya a universe buster??

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@Kurohige: But he still has a point though ( just leave the octo something part and he has a point about the power increase in DBZ, so as well the feats he mentioned are all real )

Post by Kurohige (3,792 posts) See mini bio Level 19

@ROBOT6661: Well they are easily multi galaxy busting, as dimension busting (At least Taurus when he uses he light-speed punch and some others)

@eddz99: They are not 50x light speed though and not multi-universe busting.

Post by eddz99 (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 11


What makes you say that? I'd rather believe broly being a galaxy buster since it has the feat to back up ( except with no time frame )

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