Saber vs Ichigo

Topic started by Asune on Nov. 8, 2011. Last post by eddz99 1 year, 6 months ago.
Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@CerusSerenade: he tanked fragor, a mountain range level attack which is >>>> excalibur.

H2 ihcigo (a far weaker version) crushed lanza del relampago without a scratch, and that was a city buster atleast on par with excalibur.

Post by FalconC2 (379 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Dangai Ichigo gets vaporized.

Post by FalconC2 (379 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@supernova7005 said:

@CerusSerenade: he tanked fragor, a mountain range level attack which is >>>> excalibur.

H2 ihcigo (a far weaker version) crushed lanza del relampago without a scratch, and that was a city buster atleast on par with excalibur.

Have either of those attacks done this?

Taken from Fate/Zero Volume 3

Ex – calibur!!!”

Light galloped.

Light roared.

The prana, accelerated by the factor of the released dragon, became a streak of light, a swirling and surging torrent that devoured the sea demon together with the dark night.

A silent scream rose within the river water evaporating in an instant, as every single atom composing the body of the giant sea demon that had been the embodiment of terror were exposed to the scorching impact.

But in the center of the sea demon being completely burnt to cinders, within a fortress of bulky defiled flesh, Caster simply wordlessly watched over this moment of white blinding annihilation which had stolen his heart.

[...]

“Just what, have I…”

Before this murmur, directed at no one, left his mouth, all matter was brought into another world, annihilated by the white light.

Post by CerusSerenade (2,677 posts) See mini bio Level 10

It doesn't matter that Ichigo tanked fragor, it was mid-large hill level, not mountain level.

Post by brolybankai (15 posts) See mini bio Level 4

whatever, he tanked with hand easily... swing of sword without streng use he destroy everything arround him...

saber can't attack when uses avalon...

mugetsu > excalubir.

if he have knowledge of kendo same unohana , kenpachi , yamamoto , mihawlk he easily crush the shit out of avalon

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

@brolybankai: Do you know what Avalon does?

Post by CerusSerenade (2,677 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@brolybankai said:

whatever, he tanked with hand easily... swing of sword without streng use he destroy everything arround him...

saber can't attack when uses avalon...

mugetsu > excalubir.

if he have knowledge of kendo same unohana , kenpachi , yamamoto , mihawlk he easily crush the shit out of avalon

Oh God I can't stop laughing...

Avalon works by putting the the user in a different world/dimension while actively keeping everything else out. It reflected a planetbuster and heals the user immensely.

Ichigo uses Mugetsu and gets killed by his own attack.

Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@CerusSerenade said:

Avalon works by putting the the user in a different world/dimension while actively keeping everything else out. It reflected a planetbuster and heals the user immensely.

Ichigo uses Mugetsu and gets killed by his own attack.

stop with the FSN fanboyism atleast now. that enuma elish was not charged and not even a city buster, are you trying to say excalibur is a city buster??

again, it never reflected anything in the VN so the fact that you are trying to use the anime tells something about you.

ichigo tanked a super nuke which went over hundred kilometers in the atmosphere, with only a few scratches. a casual getsuga tensho will finish her off

Post by brolybankai (15 posts) See mini bio Level 4

avalon is a shit and the shittest attack in anime world like excalibur never gonna hurt the ichigo... ichigo just sit on street and waits she dies automaticaly mere mortal retarded human

Post by ReliusClover (784 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@brolybankai: Yeah... troll/be a retard somewhere else.

Post by brolybankai (15 posts) See mini bio Level 4

stop retarding fanboysm sayng that is a planetbuster

relius just dick sucker

Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@brolybankai said:

avalon is a shit and the shittest attack in anime world like excalibur never gonna hurt the ichigo... ichigo just sit on street and waits she dies automaticaly mere mortal retarded human

I agree with you, Ichigo rapes her but youre being a troll bro (no offense).

Anyways doesn't matter coz Animevice and OBD are full of trolls and wankers

Post by CerusSerenade (2,677 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@supernova7005: When did Ichigo tank a nuke?

Avalon is ranked EX among noble phantasms. it ranks the same as Ea, which is an anti-planet noble phantasm. Avalon can reflect a fully charged Ea, and Ichigo will die from a reflected mugetsu.

Getsuga Tensho will kill her? Saber is already faster than he is and even if he could get a mugetsu off on her, Avalon heals fatal wounds anyway.

Ichigo dies to his own mugetsu after he exhausts himself with mugetsu.

Post by SMXLR8 (7,363 posts) See mini bio Level 16

@supernova7005: your both trolling so stop

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

@CerusSerenade: He is right on one thing though. Avalon doesn't reflect anything. That was in the anime only.

Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@CerusSerenade said:

@supernova7005: When did Ichigo tank a nuke?

Avalon is ranked EX among noble phantasms. it ranks the same as Ea, which is an anti-planet noble phantasm. Avalon can reflect a fully charged Ea, and Ichigo will die from a reflected mugetsu.

Getsuga Tensho will kill her? Saber is already faster than he is and even if he could get a mugetsu off on her, Avalon heals fatal wounds anyway.

Ichigo dies to his own mugetsu after he exhausts himself with mugetsu.

When did Ichigo tank a nuke? - he already tanked a city busting nuke in his H2 form during his fight with ulq. He tanked an atmosphere sized super nuke from final form aizen with only a few scratches on him.

saber is already faster than he is? - then prove that she is faster. show me the math instead of posting random numbers. ichigo was as faster than top tier servants wayyy back in the SS arc when he deflected 100 million blades flying at him from all directions at the same time.

Avalon can reflect a fully charged Ea? - I like how you ignored my previous statement. That happened only in the anime, non canon crap.

Ichigo will die from a reflected mugetsu? - Mugetsu is a cutting attack, its not a projectile like Ea so no.

All ichigo needs to do is stand there and wait until avalon runs out, then he just waves his sword and ends all of it. At the very max, only a casual getsuga tensho will be needed

Post by CerusSerenade (2,677 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@supernova7005 said:

@CerusSerenade said:

@supernova7005: When did Ichigo tank a nuke?

Avalon is ranked EX among noble phantasms. it ranks the same as Ea, which is an anti-planet noble phantasm. Avalon can reflect a fully charged Ea, and Ichigo will die from a reflected mugetsu.

Getsuga Tensho will kill her? Saber is already faster than he is and even if he could get a mugetsu off on her, Avalon heals fatal wounds anyway.

Ichigo dies to his own mugetsu after he exhausts himself with mugetsu.

When did Ichigo tank a nuke? - he already tanked a city busting nuke in his H2 form during his fight with ulq. He tanked an atmosphere sized super nuke from final form aizen with only a few scratches on him.

saber is already faster than he is? - then prove that she is faster. show me the math instead of posting random numbers. ichigo was as faster than top tier servants wayyy back in the SS arc when he deflected 100 million blades flying at him from all directions at the same time.

Avalon can reflect a fully charged Ea? - I like how you ignored my previous statement. That happened only in the anime, non canon crap.

Ichigo will die from a reflected mugetsu? - Mugetsu is a cutting attack, its not a projectile like Ea so no.

All ichigo needs to do is stand there and wait until avalon runs out, then he just waves his sword and ends all of it. At the very max, only a casual getsuga tensho will be needed

Fragor was not a city buster.

Let's see... she dodged gatling fire from berserker who was using his noble phantasm to amp up the strength and speed. That is already largely hypersonic considering those were able to kee up with Vimana with Gilgamesh on it.

Avalon's reflecting abilities are not instantly removed because it wasn't shown in the visual novel, there is nothing saying in manga that it can't reflect attacks, and word of god says nothing about it being unable to reflect attacks. It just wasn't used to reflect attacks in those circumstances. How exactly is an anime created by Nasu non-canon? HE MADE THE SERIES.

Mugetsu went across a hill range, unless Ichigo is intentionally too far from Saber for Mugetsu to work, he will still lose his powers and basically commit suicide upon using it.

Avalon passively works all the time, and can be activated to restart the battle for Saber. The passive effects consume little to no prana as I recall. Ichigo is more likely to exhaust himself than Saber is.

Post by ReliusClover (784 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@CerusSerenade: Anime is not canon VN. But Avalon did reflect Gil's attack in the Fate route and made him retreat, though it.

Doesn't really matter though she goes Avalon and then Excalibur, easy win.

Post by CerusSerenade (2,677 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@ReliusClover: Thank you for that.

But again, how is the anime not canon? It doesn't become unofficial just because it's an anime.

Post by Dream (7,892 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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@CerusSerenade: Because of differences in how the visual novel and anime would allow you to judge feats likely.

Give you one prominent example during Gil and Saber's first clash in Stay Night's Fate route. For the anime, Gil blocked Saber's slashes by using his weapons from Gate of Babylon to block them whereas he used merely the hands of his armor to fend off blows aimed at his head in the visual novel.

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