Saber vs Ichigo

Topic started by Asune on Nov. 8, 2011. Last post by eddz99 1 year, 5 months ago.
Post by Asune (1,191 posts) See mini bio Level 12

RULES

-Saber is with the full of her powers, but Avalon is banned

-Ichigo can fight in any form

Saber
Saber

VS

Ichigo
Ichigo
Post by Dream (7,636 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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With full access to her Noble Phantasms, Saber has access to Avalon which would make her invulnerable against all of Ichigo's attacks. This makes the battle a curbstomp in Arturia's favor.
Post by MohsinMan99 (1,777 posts) See mini bio Level 21

Saber with all of her stuff, especially Avalon, would beat Ichigo easily. Ichigo doesn't even have kido and even if he did, doubt that would do much considering Saber's excellent magic resistance.

Post by Fehafare (9,350 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Yay, Saber wins.

But isn't it funny how Avalon is more powerfully than the sword itself (not by power but by hax and how usefully it is in combat)?

Post by MohsinMan99 (1,777 posts) See mini bio Level 21

@Fehafare said:

Yay, Saber wins.

But isn't it funny how Avalon is more powerfully than the sword itself (not by power but by hax and how usefully it is in combat)?

Indeed. Though, I think two of the servants from Fate/Zero might possibly be able to handle it. Lancer can ignore any armor/defense with his NP and Berserker can just snatch it from Saber in which case, Avalon becomes his. *maybe*

Post by Asune (1,191 posts) See mini bio Level 12

@MohsinMan99: @Fehafare: @Dream: OP edited, no avalon now

Post by Dream (7,636 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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Even with no Avalon, Saber is still gonna give Ichigo troubles. Her battle instincts are at near-precog levels where she can "feel" out how to handle attacks from her foes and Invisible Air would make it difficult for Ichigo to know of the proper range in which to avoid sword strikes from Excalibur. Not to mention as a divine weapon, Excalibur is capable of leveling everything in range of its attack when Saber fires off a blast from it. I can't see Ichigo winning this.
Post by willyvereb (5,914 posts) See mini bio Level 17
Saber has better reactions and if she's at full power (being King Arthuria) she's also faster.
Saber's best speed feat is mach 13.4 and the double of that in reactions.
In addition Excalibur is an attack which can destroy a multi city block sized monster down to the very last atom.
To compare: attacks that have complete vaporization effect in large building+ range are already in the 100+ kilotons range. That's above the Hiroshima nuke.
Now, Saber has an attack which destroys every single atom in an even larger area.
There's no way that Ichigo can survive that.
Post by brolybankai (15 posts) See mini bio Level 4

@Fehafare: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttJxqjHIxmU

1:30 on movie you see why ichigo anal rapes this bitch

Post by brolybankai (15 posts) See mini bio Level 4

@Dream: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttJxqjHIxmU 1:30

Post by CerusSerenade (2,627 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@brolybankai said:

@Fehafare: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttJxqjHIxmU

1:30 on movie you see why ichigo anal rapes this bitch

All I see is a bunch of Bleach wanking.

Saber already trumped that anyway.

Post by brolybankai (15 posts) See mini bio Level 4

@CerusSerenade: ichigo one slash cut saber in two.. end of story

Post by Dream (7,636 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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@brolybankai: And that's supposed to be impressive, how? With Excalibur, Saber's able to wipe out anything in the path of the blast, down to the last atom. Not to mention her better reaction time and precog-like battle instincts. Quit wanking Bleach.

Post by katmic (397 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Seems like this battle is already done. Ichigo dies whichever way you look at it.

Post by TheEd (13 posts) See mini bio Level 3

Ichigo loses for now, but he might become stronger than Saber.

Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@Dream: current ichigo may lose, bust FGT ichigo undoubtedly wins.

saber cant attack when avalon is active, once its gone how does she tank mugetsu?? plus, ichigo has the flight advantage.

Post by Dream (7,636 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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@supernova7005: The flight advantage might be an issue (seeing as Saber did have difficulty against Rider's Pegasus), but Ichigo's attacks aren't gonna be able to easily get around Saber's instincts as both foes (if Ichigo is in FGT) are on par in speed. As for Mugetsu, milking an Excali-blast and using a prana burst at maximum output with her armor should allow her to fend off the attack. Saber's attacks with Excalibur are about on par with the destructive capacity of Mugetsu and her armor was able to hold up for a time against an attack from Gilgamesh's Ea in its uncharged state, the mentioned weapon being capable of destroying an entire city (and destroyed Iskander's Reality Marble in Fate/ Zero) in its state when Saber was up against Gil.

Actually, Mugetsu might be a foolish move to make use of against Saber here considering it's one-time use whereas Saber is capable of using Excaliblasts a number of times in succession before it takes a toll on her mana reserves.

Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@Dream: saber's excalibur or the uncharged enuma elish are town+ to small city level in destructive capacity, which should be at max as strong as ulquiorra's lanza del relampago. ichigo in H2 form itself caught that attack and crushed it with his bare hand without a scratch. im sure FGT ichigo would be able to tank an excalibur or ea as he broke out of a full incanted kurohitsugi with a flick of his wrist, and that attack also had enough gravity to distort space and time.avalon is a non factor here as she cant attack when its active. in FSN, berserker's swings were too much for her to take on and he was overpowering her with his physical strength, we know FGT ichigo has much more physical strength as he casually swings his sword and destroys mountains, so i don't see her having a chance at winning.

honestly i can see saber easily beating anyone upto vizard ichigo and grimmjow, but anyone from ulquiorra and above should be able to take her.

Post by Dream (7,636 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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which should be at max as strong as ulquiorra's lanza del relampago

Possibly true with Excalibur, but the attack wouldn't get around Ea as Gilgamesh could simply raise the output enough to outmatch the attack as the sword is a life-wiper at its strongest output and Gilgamesh is consistently portrayed as not going all-out in his fights in the Fate franchise. Even FGT Ichigo wouldn't be able to survive a blast from Ea if Gil got serious enough.

he broke out of a full incanted kurohitsugi with a flick of his wrist, and that attack also had enough gravity to distort space and time

I interpret the highlighted part as hyperbole considering this was a character statement coming from Aizen's mouth, especially when he was cocky and underestimating FGT Ichigo throughout much of their match.

avalon is a non factor here as she cant attack when its active

Outside of the sheathe protecting Saber from any destructive attacks on the physical plane of existence, Avalon also reflects said attacks back at their target hence why its use was banned here. It would have made this battle completely pointless.

in FSN, berserker's swings were too much for her to take on and he was overpowering her with his physical strength

Weak example to be using here. Saber getting overwhelmed had more to do with her stats being weakened due to Shiro being her Master in Fate route, who had little mana to supply her and lacked formal training as a magus. With Rin or Kiritsugu as her Master, Saber's stats are close to how they were when she was alive as King Arthur as she can trade blows with Hercules' sword and dispatch him with an Excali-blast. As Saber Alter, her stats surpass her time alive as King Arthur and she could easily dispose of Berserker in Heaven's Feel route.

we know FGT ichigo has much more physical strength as he casually swings his sword and destroys mountains

FGT Ichigo cleaving apart sections of mountains with sword swings is supposed to be impressive compared to a blast of divine power that can vaporize its target down to the last atom as Bluebeard's gargantuan monster felt in Fate/ Zero? I don't think so.

but anyone from ulquiorra and above should be able to take her.

In singles battle, Saber should be able to dispatch them with difficulty.

Judging from your comments, either you haven't seen enough from the Fate franchise to know the full scope of character abilities from the franchise or you're trying to downplay feats in favor of Bleach.

Post by CerusSerenade (2,627 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@brolybankai: Proof?

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