" @Jack_attack said:it's not PIS since KK does it ALL THE TIME, PIS does not work like that, you can call it on a feat or two but not on every single one, also they are the same person still so all of his feats count.
" @Tradog said:That is a great example of PIS or CIS he can hurt someone capable of hurting kryptonians yet he gets beat and speedblitzed by weaker guys all the time if that was the case he should be able to one shot any human he fights but he does not as shown in some of the scans posted. It is still different they come from different realities its not even a different series its a different karate kid with the same origin. "
"@Jack_attack said:when it comes to superman it is FAR different since there have BECOME different, val has been the same for both comics thus both work,also theres nemisis kid who has been able to not only hurt superboy but almost kill him a couple of times as well as take down other superman like people and KK beat him up bad. "
I don'tthink you know how comic versions of characters work they are from different comic series thats like saying superman prime's, 1 million and ect feats can be used on the same person thats not how it works it is PIS because he has been beat by weaker guys many times he did not hurt mon el he made him knock himself out and the other kryptonian he fought was in sparring if you think he hurt him then you are insane lol show me scans of him hurting supergirl or superboy. Also he was still beaten by batman and many other weak guys, he has superstrength and great reaction but everything he has lucci has 3x more. "
" @Tradog said:" @Jack_attack said:KK has been tge same person all the way from everything, his feats can be used from no matter where so saying ''this one did this'' or ''this one did that'' really does not matter since there both the same guy, anyways KK feats are not PIS they are consistent so it's not pis, also cutting a steel ship means nothing since KK has been able to punch people like superboy,mon-el,supergirl ect ect who are all tougher then steal and hurt them. "
" @sinister_noob_incarnate said:Lol no it was not a joke nor have I seen him break ice to reveal a old building but I have seen him do something much better while injured like cutting through a steel ship with ease:
"@Jack_attack said:what trouble i had it in my photos? and i never said i was mad and i doubt tra ment it as a joke. "
" @Tradog said:wow, you went through this much trouble to respond to a joke "
" @KingOfSnipers said:when have i seen lucci able to do this
" Which Val is this? Pre-Crisis or Post? Not that it really matters when Val would anally violate Lucci the very second he tries to get in close. "Mind telling me how? Lucci beats him in every category that matters. "
Also when he was younger before he even got his fruit he took on a killed 500 soldiers even after being shot multiple times :
Also karate kid was beat by batman how can he fight lucci?
Also this is the version that was able to dodge mon el:
This one is this one who broke the ice:
And I can't find the scan for this one but he was hurt by this red haired guy and stabbed in the leg by a piece of metal and could barley move it most of karate kid's feats are PIS anyway. "