Piccolo vs

Topic started by Mortein on Oct. 30, 2009. Last post by Kelleth 4 years, 10 months ago.
Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19
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 @taichokage said:

" ! special beam cannon can eradicate the moon in an instant and it's not something he has to charge 5 minutes for.He learns to do it instantly and it could easily pierce through the opponents body. i think it could k.o. him. "

How would it KO him if even powerful energy blasts from The Silver Surfer and Thor haven't? Its easy to watch DBZ and believe they are extremely powerful at first glance but you should not believe that just because it can instantly destroy the Moon it can easily destroy The Hulk who was withstood energy blasts that can destroy entire planets. First of all a single punch from Green Scar would KO Piccolo who cannot withstand physical force equivalent to over 99 billion tons. 


If thor or silver surfer wonted to kill Iron man, he would be dead. full stop  Attack that Thor and Silver surfer were using against Iron man were no where near moon busting attack. I am not saying that they cant bust planets, but they didn't use that kind of attack against iron man "
I'm talking about The Hulk not Iron Man and there are certain occasions where they have tried to KO The Hulk however it hardly ever works which is why they attempt to drain his energy but nobody has ever succeeded except for The Silver Surfer. "
well, yes, Hulk can withstand moon busting attacks  "
And Iron Man cannot? Iron Man was struck by Mjolnir that was being backed up by Odinforce Thor's strength while he wasn't holding back. Thor's blows alone are strong enough to shatter entire planets and crush entire moons with their force and even more Mjolnir was being used by Thor that only adds on  to how much damage he can cause, Iron Man withstood those blows and it should be noted that Thor was in possession of the Odinforce a source of near infinite cosmic and mystical energies.  
 
Lets assume Iron Man cannot withstand an attack powerful enough to destroy entire moons, Iron Man's armor responds to his thoughts and his armor will operate as quickly as he thinks, he has one more than one occasion fought in under 0.0001 seconds. He is also incredibly fast, he has impressed a being as fast Sentry with his speed alone and even Spider-Man who is at least 15x faster than regular humans could not see him during a brief fight he had. Piccolo can't react to this kind of speed.
Post by Mortein (1,558 posts) See mini bio Level 9
@Newdeath said:

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 @taichokage said:

" ! special beam cannon can eradicate the moon in an instant and it's not something he has to charge 5 minutes for.He learns to do it instantly and it could easily pierce through the opponents body. i think it could k.o. him. "

How would it KO him if even powerful energy blasts from The Silver Surfer and Thor haven't? Its easy to watch DBZ and believe they are extremely powerful at first glance but you should not believe that just because it can instantly destroy the Moon it can easily destroy The Hulk who was withstood energy blasts that can destroy entire planets. First of all a single punch from Green Scar would KO Piccolo who cannot withstand physical force equivalent to over 99 billion tons. 


If thor or silver surfer wonted to kill Iron man, he would be dead. full stop  Attack that Thor and Silver surfer were using against Iron man were no where near moon busting attack. I am not saying that they cant bust planets, but they didn't use that kind of attack against iron man "
I'm talking about The Hulk not Iron Man and there are certain occasions where they have tried to KO The Hulk however it hardly ever works which is why they attempt to drain his energy but nobody has ever succeeded except for The Silver Surfer. "
well, yes, Hulk can withstand moon busting attacks  "
And Iron Man cannot? Iron Man was struck by Mjolnir that was being backed up by Odinforce Thor's strength while he wasn't holding back. Thor's blows alone are strong enough to shatter entire planets and crush entire moons with their force and even more Mjolnir was being used by Thor that only adds on  to how much damage he can cause, Iron Man withstood those blows and it should be noted that Thor was in possession of the Odinforce a source of near infinite cosmic and mystical energies.   Lets assume Iron Man cannot withstand an attack powerful enough to destroy entire moons, Iron Man's armor responds to his thoughts and his armor will operate as quickly as he thinks, he has one more than one occasion fought in under 0.0001 seconds. He is also incredibly fast, he has impressed a being as fast Sentry with his speed alone and even Spider-Man who is at least 15x faster than regular humans could not see him during a brief fight he had. Piccolo can't react to this kind of speed. "
OF Thor did not hit Iron man with his full power, because if he did, Iron man would be no more. 
I agree Iron man is faster and stronger than this Piccolo, and that he would win this fight, but if Piccolo somehow hit him with his moon busting attack, Iron man would be finished.  Piccolo prabably wont be able to than.
Being faster than Spider-man doesn't mean much, even master Roshi is as fast or even faster than Spider-man.
Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19
@Mortein said:
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 @taichokage said:

" ! special beam cannon can eradicate the moon in an instant and it's not something he has to charge 5 minutes for.He learns to do it instantly and it could easily pierce through the opponents body. i think it could k.o. him. "

How would it KO him if even powerful energy blasts from The Silver Surfer and Thor haven't? Its easy to watch DBZ and believe they are extremely powerful at first glance but you should not believe that just because it can instantly destroy the Moon it can easily destroy The Hulk who was withstood energy blasts that can destroy entire planets. First of all a single punch from Green Scar would KO Piccolo who cannot withstand physical force equivalent to over 99 billion tons. 


If thor or silver surfer wonted to kill Iron man, he would be dead. full stop  Attack that Thor and Silver surfer were using against Iron man were no where near moon busting attack. I am not saying that they cant bust planets, but they didn't use that kind of attack against iron man "
I'm talking about The Hulk not Iron Man and there are certain occasions where they have tried to KO The Hulk however it hardly ever works which is why they attempt to drain his energy but nobody has ever succeeded except for The Silver Surfer. "
well, yes, Hulk can withstand moon busting attacks  "
And Iron Man cannot? Iron Man was struck by Mjolnir that was being backed up by Odinforce Thor's strength while he wasn't holding back. Thor's blows alone are strong enough to shatter entire planets and crush entire moons with their force and even more Mjolnir was being used by Thor that only adds on  to how much damage he can cause, Iron Man withstood those blows and it should be noted that Thor was in possession of the Odinforce a source of near infinite cosmic and mystical energies.   Lets assume Iron Man cannot withstand an attack powerful enough to destroy entire moons, Iron Man's armor responds to his thoughts and his armor will operate as quickly as he thinks, he has one more than one occasion fought in under 0.0001 seconds. He is also incredibly fast, he has impressed a being as fast Sentry with his speed alone and even Spider-Man who is at least 15x faster than regular humans could not see him during a brief fight he had. Piccolo can't react to this kind of speed. "
OF Thor did not hit Iron man with his full power, because if he did, Iron man would be no more.  I agree Iron man is faster and stronger than this Piccolo, and that he would win this fight, but if Piccolo somehow hit him with his moon busting attack, Iron man would be finished.  Piccolo prabably wont be able to than. Being faster than Spider-man doesn't mean much, even master Roshi is as fast or even faster than Spider-man. "
Not with full power. He wasn't holding back meaning he was using a serious degree of his physical strength. Iron Man's current armor is very powerful. Spider-Man has been able to spot extremely fast beings, faster than Master Roshi but Iron Man was far too fast, I didn't say its a big feat for someone to be faster than Spider-Man, its a big feat for you to be too fast for Spider-Man to see. No a moon busting attack wouldn't destroy Iron Man, Iron Man is far too durable. His armor is designed to easily withstand nuclear explosions without having to use his energy shields. Piccolo during this period of time could not generate enough energy to potentially defeat Iron Man considering Iron Man has faced beings far more powerful than Piccolo and has designed his current armor to withstand damage by powerful beings such as Thor or The Silver Surfer, his Extremis Suit is too durable for this version of Piccolo to harm. Later versions of Piccolo will harm him but this version is far too weak, a moon busting attack isn't even equivalent to a full force punch from The Hulk, normal Savage Hulk was physically stronger than Gladiator who shattered entire planets with the force of his blows and Classic Iron Man's armor was durable enough to withstand powerful blows from an extremely enraged Savage Hulk that was sufficient force to shatter an entire planet and that was Classic Iron Man. Current Iron Man is far more powerful. Yes Iron Man does win you are correct there sir.
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He stops at either Namor or Iron Man
Post by Mortein (1,558 posts) See mini bio Level 9
@Newdeath said:

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 @taichokage said:

" ! special beam cannon can eradicate the moon in an instant and it's not something he has to charge 5 minutes for.He learns to do it instantly and it could easily pierce through the opponents body. i think it could k.o. him. "

How would it KO him if even powerful energy blasts from The Silver Surfer and Thor haven't? Its easy to watch DBZ and believe they are extremely powerful at first glance but you should not believe that just because it can instantly destroy the Moon it can easily destroy The Hulk who was withstood energy blasts that can destroy entire planets. First of all a single punch from Green Scar would KO Piccolo who cannot withstand physical force equivalent to over 99 billion tons. 


If thor or silver surfer wonted to kill Iron man, he would be dead. full stop  Attack that Thor and Silver surfer were using against Iron man were no where near moon busting attack. I am not saying that they cant bust planets, but they didn't use that kind of attack against iron man "
I'm talking about The Hulk not Iron Man and there are certain occasions where they have tried to KO The Hulk however it hardly ever works which is why they attempt to drain his energy but nobody has ever succeeded except for The Silver Surfer. "
well, yes, Hulk can withstand moon busting attacks  "
And Iron Man cannot? Iron Man was struck by Mjolnir that was being backed up by Odinforce Thor's strength while he wasn't holding back. Thor's blows alone are strong enough to shatter entire planets and crush entire moons with their force and even more Mjolnir was being used by Thor that only adds on  to how much damage he can cause, Iron Man withstood those blows and it should be noted that Thor was in possession of the Odinforce a source of near infinite cosmic and mystical energies.   Lets assume Iron Man cannot withstand an attack powerful enough to destroy entire moons, Iron Man's armor responds to his thoughts and his armor will operate as quickly as he thinks, he has one more than one occasion fought in under 0.0001 seconds. He is also incredibly fast, he has impressed a being as fast Sentry with his speed alone and even Spider-Man who is at least 15x faster than regular humans could not see him during a brief fight he had. Piccolo can't react to this kind of speed. "
OF Thor did not hit Iron man with his full power, because if he did, Iron man would be no more.  I agree Iron man is faster and stronger than this Piccolo, and that he would win this fight, but if Piccolo somehow hit him with his moon busting attack, Iron man would be finished.  Piccolo prabably wont be able to than. Being faster than Spider-man doesn't mean much, even master Roshi is as fast or even faster than Spider-man. "
Not with full power. He wasn't holding back meaning he was using a serious degree of his physical strength. Iron Man's current armor is very powerful. Spider-Man has been able to spot extremely fast beings, faster than Master Roshi but Iron Man was far too fast, I didn't say its a big feat for someone to be faster than Spider-Man, its a big feat for you to be too fast for Spider-Man to see. No a moon busting attack wouldn't destroy Iron Man, Iron Man is far too durable. His armor is designed to easily withstand nuclear explosions without having to use his energy shields. Piccolo during this period of time could not generate enough energy to potentially defeat Iron Man considering Iron Man has faced beings far more powerful than Piccolo and has designed his current armor to withstand damage by powerful beings such as Thor or The Silver Surfer, his Extremis Suit is too durable for this version of Piccolo to harm. Later versions of Piccolo will harm him but this version is far too weak, a moon busting attack isn't even equivalent to a full force punch from The Hulk, normal Savage Hulk was physically stronger than Gladiator who shattered entire planets with the force of his blows and Classic Iron Man's armor was durable enough to withstand powerful blows from an extremely enraged Savage Hulk that was sufficient force to shatter an entire planet and that was Classic Iron Man. Current Iron Man is far more powerful. Yes Iron Man does win you are correct there sir. "
Iron man or OF Thor obviously wasn't using their full powered attack, and how  much power they were using we don't know, but full power no way.
And Roshi is at least as fast as spiderman
  http://manga.bleachexile.com/dragon-ball-chapter-73-page-6.html
 http://manga.bleachexile.com/dragon-ball-chapter-37-page-13.html
 http://manga.bleachexile.com/dragon-ball-chapter-42-page-4.html
 http://manga.bleachexile.com/dragon-ball-chapter-43-page-7.html  
 and Roshi cant see Piccolo moving
 
Being able to easily withstand nuclear explosions means nothing at this point 
 This is 57 Megaton A- bomb 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxD44HO8dNQ
To destroy moon you would need more than 1 x10 ^15  Megaton. 

even tho Hulk was stronger than Gladiator, he was no where near as fast, and speed of a punch is very important equivalent when you want to destroy something. Hulk at his best was able to shatter continents.  
Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19
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 @taichokage said:

" ! special beam cannon can eradicate the moon in an instant and it's not something he has to charge 5 minutes for.He learns to do it instantly and it could easily pierce through the opponents body. i think it could k.o. him. "

How would it KO him if even powerful energy blasts from The Silver Surfer and Thor haven't? Its easy to watch DBZ and believe they are extremely powerful at first glance but you should not believe that just because it can instantly destroy the Moon it can easily destroy The Hulk who was withstood energy blasts that can destroy entire planets. First of all a single punch from Green Scar would KO Piccolo who cannot withstand physical force equivalent to over 99 billion tons. 


If thor or silver surfer wonted to kill Iron man, he would be dead. full stop  Attack that Thor and Silver surfer were using against Iron man were no where near moon busting attack. I am not saying that they cant bust planets, but they didn't use that kind of attack against iron man "
I'm talking about The Hulk not Iron Man and there are certain occasions where they have tried to KO The Hulk however it hardly ever works which is why they attempt to drain his energy but nobody has ever succeeded except for The Silver Surfer. "
well, yes, Hulk can withstand moon busting attacks  "
And Iron Man cannot? Iron Man was struck by Mjolnir that was being backed up by Odinforce Thor's strength while he wasn't holding back. Thor's blows alone are strong enough to shatter entire planets and crush entire moons with their force and even more Mjolnir was being used by Thor that only adds on  to how much damage he can cause, Iron Man withstood those blows and it should be noted that Thor was in possession of the Odinforce a source of near infinite cosmic and mystical energies.   Lets assume Iron Man cannot withstand an attack powerful enough to destroy entire moons, Iron Man's armor responds to his thoughts and his armor will operate as quickly as he thinks, he has one more than one occasion fought in under 0.0001 seconds. He is also incredibly fast, he has impressed a being as fast Sentry with his speed alone and even Spider-Man who is at least 15x faster than regular humans could not see him during a brief fight he had. Piccolo can't react to this kind of speed. "
OF Thor did not hit Iron man with his full power, because if he did, Iron man would be no more.  I agree Iron man is faster and stronger than this Piccolo, and that he would win this fight, but if Piccolo somehow hit him with his moon busting attack, Iron man would be finished.  Piccolo prabably wont be able to than. Being faster than Spider-man doesn't mean much, even master Roshi is as fast or even faster than Spider-man. "
Not with full power. He wasn't holding back meaning he was using a serious degree of his physical strength. Iron Man's current armor is very powerful. Spider-Man has been able to spot extremely fast beings, faster than Master Roshi but Iron Man was far too fast, I didn't say its a big feat for someone to be faster than Spider-Man, its a big feat for you to be too fast for Spider-Man to see. No a moon busting attack wouldn't destroy Iron Man, Iron Man is far too durable. His armor is designed to easily withstand nuclear explosions without having to use his energy shields. Piccolo during this period of time could not generate enough energy to potentially defeat Iron Man considering Iron Man has faced beings far more powerful than Piccolo and has designed his current armor to withstand damage by powerful beings such as Thor or The Silver Surfer, his Extremis Suit is too durable for this version of Piccolo to harm. Later versions of Piccolo will harm him but this version is far too weak, a moon busting attack isn't even equivalent to a full force punch from The Hulk, normal Savage Hulk was physically stronger than Gladiator who shattered entire planets with the force of his blows and Classic Iron Man's armor was durable enough to withstand powerful blows from an extremely enraged Savage Hulk that was sufficient force to shatter an entire planet and that was Classic Iron Man. Current Iron Man is far more powerful. Yes Iron Man does win you are correct there sir. "
Iron man or OF Thor obviously wasn't using their full powered attack, and how  much power they were using we don't know, but full power no way.
And Roshi is at least as fast as spiderman
  http://manga.bleachexile.com/dragon-ball-chapter-73-page-6.html
 http://manga.bleachexile.com/dragon-ball-chapter-37-page-13.html
 http://manga.bleachexile.com/dragon-ball-chapter-42-page-4.html
 http://manga.bleachexile.com/dragon-ball-chapter-43-page-7.html  
 and Roshi cant see Piccolo moving
 
Being able to easily withstand nuclear explosions means nothing at this point 
 This is 57 Megaton A- bomb 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxD44HO8dNQ To destroy moon you would need more than 1 x10 ^15  Megaton.  even tho Hulk was stronger than Gladiator, he was no where near as fast, and speed of a punch is very important equivalent when you want to destroy something. Hulk at his best was able to shatter continents.   "
Actually no. Classic Savage Hulk was shattered an asteroid three times the size of Earth so yes he can shatter planets. I didn't say he was using full power, I said the amount of power Thor was using was far too much, even Thor holding back especially because he was using the Odinforce that is a source of energy powerful enough to destroy galaxies was a lot of damage and more power than any moon busting attack.  
 
It really doesn't matter what kind of speed this version of Piccolo has because he still isn't faster than Iron Man. Of course speed is important, the faster you move the heavier you become so the amount of force Gladiator used was incredible especially since he was traveling at 770 miles per hour, second of all I already stated how The Hulk is able to shatter worlds.  
 
I said Iron Man can easily withstand Nuclear Bombs not that it is great to withstand one, being able to easily withstand something like that is no joke especially when it is done with no effort.  
 
Nonetheless Iron Man wins anyway. Piccolo stops at either Namor or Iron Man. 
Post by FLCL1 (3,935 posts) See mini bio Level 7
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 @taichokage said:

" ! special beam cannon can eradicate the moon in an instant and it's not something he has to charge 5 minutes for.He learns to do it instantly and it could easily pierce through the opponents body. i think it could k.o. him. "

How would it KO him if even powerful energy blasts from The Silver Surfer and Thor haven't? Its easy to watch DBZ and believe they are extremely powerful at first glance but you should not believe that just because it can instantly destroy the Moon it can easily destroy The Hulk who was withstood energy blasts that can destroy entire planets. First of all a single punch from Green Scar would KO Piccolo who cannot withstand physical force equivalent to over 99 billion tons. 


If thor or silver surfer wonted to kill Iron man, he would be dead. full stop  Attack that Thor and Silver surfer were using against Iron man were no where near moon busting attack. I am not saying that they cant bust planets, but they didn't use that kind of attack against iron man "
I'm talking about The Hulk not Iron Man and there are certain occasions where they have tried to KO The Hulk however it hardly ever works which is why they attempt to drain his energy but nobody has ever succeeded except for The Silver Surfer. "
well, yes, Hulk can withstand moon busting attacks  "
And Iron Man cannot? Iron Man was struck by Mjolnir that was being backed up by Odinforce Thor's strength while he wasn't holding back. Thor's blows alone are strong enough to shatter entire planets and crush entire moons with their force and even more Mjolnir was being used by Thor that only adds on  to how much damage he can cause, Iron Man withstood those blows and it should be noted that Thor was in possession of the Odinforce a source of near infinite cosmic and mystical energies.   Lets assume Iron Man cannot withstand an attack powerful enough to destroy entire moons, Iron Man's armor responds to his thoughts and his armor will operate as quickly as he thinks, he has one more than one occasion fought in under 0.0001 seconds. He is also incredibly fast, he has impressed a being as fast Sentry with his speed alone and even Spider-Man who is at least 15x faster than regular humans could not see him during a brief fight he had. Piccolo can't react to this kind of speed. "
OF Thor did not hit Iron man with his full power, because if he did, Iron man would be no more.  I agree Iron man is faster and stronger than this Piccolo, and that he would win this fight, but if Piccolo somehow hit him with his moon busting attack, Iron man would be finished.  Piccolo prabably wont be able to than. Being faster than Spider-man doesn't mean much, even master Roshi is as fast or even faster than Spider-man. "
Not with full power. He wasn't holding back meaning he was using a serious degree of his physical strength. Iron Man's current armor is very powerful. Spider-Man has been able to spot extremely fast beings, faster than Master Roshi but Iron Man was far too fast, I didn't say its a big feat for someone to be faster than Spider-Man, its a big feat for you to be too fast for Spider-Man to see. No a moon busting attack wouldn't destroy Iron Man, Iron Man is far too durable. His armor is designed to easily withstand nuclear explosions without having to use his energy shields. Piccolo during this period of time could not generate enough energy to potentially defeat Iron Man considering Iron Man has faced beings far more powerful than Piccolo and has designed his current armor to withstand damage by powerful beings such as Thor or The Silver Surfer, his Extremis Suit is too durable for this version of Piccolo to harm. Later versions of Piccolo will harm him but this version is far too weak, a moon busting attack isn't even equivalent to a full force punch from The Hulk, normal Savage Hulk was physically stronger than Gladiator who shattered entire planets with the force of his blows and Classic Iron Man's armor was durable enough to withstand powerful blows from an extremely enraged Savage Hulk that was sufficient force to shatter an entire planet and that was Classic Iron Man. Current Iron Man is far more powerful. Yes Iron Man does win you are correct there sir. "
Iron man or OF Thor obviously wasn't using their full powered attack, and how  much power they were using we don't know, but full power no way.
And Roshi is at least as fast as spiderman
  http://manga.bleachexile.com/dragon-ball-chapter-73-page-6.html
 http://manga.bleachexile.com/dragon-ball-chapter-37-page-13.html
 http://manga.bleachexile.com/dragon-ball-chapter-42-page-4.html
 http://manga.bleachexile.com/dragon-ball-chapter-43-page-7.html  
 and Roshi cant see Piccolo moving
 
Being able to easily withstand nuclear explosions means nothing at this point 
 This is 57 Megaton A- bomb 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxD44HO8dNQ To destroy moon you would need more than 1 x10 ^15  Megaton.  even tho Hulk was stronger than Gladiator, he was no where near as fast, and speed of a punch is very important equivalent when you want to destroy something. Hulk at his best was able to shatter continents.   "
Actually no. Classic Savage Hulk was shattered an asteroid three times the size of Earth so yes he can shatter planets. I didn't say he was using full power, I said the amount of power Thor was using was far too much, even Thor holding back especially because he was using the Odinforce that is a source of energy powerful enough to destroy galaxies was a lot of damage and more power than any moon busting attack.   It really doesn't matter what kind of speed this version of Piccolo has because he still isn't faster than Iron Man. Of course speed is important, the faster you move the heavier you become so the amount of force Gladiator used was incredible especially since he was traveling at 770 miles per hour, second of all I already stated how The Hulk is able to shatter worlds.   I said Iron Man can easily withstand Nuclear Bombs not that it is great to withstand one, being able to easily withstand something like that is no joke especially when it is done with no effort.   Nonetheless Iron Man wins anyway. Piccolo stops at either Namor or Iron Man.  "

but hulk cant fly 
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 @taichokage said:

" ! special beam cannon can eradicate the moon in an instant and it's not something he has to charge 5 minutes for.He learns to do it instantly and it could easily pierce through the opponents body. i think it could k.o. him. "

How would it KO him if even powerful energy blasts from The Silver Surfer and Thor haven't? Its easy to watch DBZ and believe they are extremely powerful at first glance but you should not believe that just because it can instantly destroy the Moon it can easily destroy The Hulk who was withstood energy blasts that can destroy entire planets. First of all a single punch from Green Scar would KO Piccolo who cannot withstand physical force equivalent to over 99 billion tons. 


If thor or silver surfer wonted to kill Iron man, he would be dead. full stop  Attack that Thor and Silver surfer were using against Iron man were no where near moon busting attack. I am not saying that they cant bust planets, but they didn't use that kind of attack against iron man "
I'm talking about The Hulk not Iron Man and there are certain occasions where they have tried to KO The Hulk however it hardly ever works which is why they attempt to drain his energy but nobody has ever succeeded except for The Silver Surfer. "
well, yes, Hulk can withstand moon busting attacks  "
And Iron Man cannot? Iron Man was struck by Mjolnir that was being backed up by Odinforce Thor's strength while he wasn't holding back. Thor's blows alone are strong enough to shatter entire planets and crush entire moons with their force and even more Mjolnir was being used by Thor that only adds on  to how much damage he can cause, Iron Man withstood those blows and it should be noted that Thor was in possession of the Odinforce a source of near infinite cosmic and mystical energies.   Lets assume Iron Man cannot withstand an attack powerful enough to destroy entire moons, Iron Man's armor responds to his thoughts and his armor will operate as quickly as he thinks, he has one more than one occasion fought in under 0.0001 seconds. He is also incredibly fast, he has impressed a being as fast Sentry with his speed alone and even Spider-Man who is at least 15x faster than regular humans could not see him during a brief fight he had. Piccolo can't react to this kind of speed. "
OF Thor did not hit Iron man with his full power, because if he did, Iron man would be no more.  I agree Iron man is faster and stronger than this Piccolo, and that he would win this fight, but if Piccolo somehow hit him with his moon busting attack, Iron man would be finished.  Piccolo prabably wont be able to than. Being faster than Spider-man doesn't mean much, even master Roshi is as fast or even faster than Spider-man. "
Not with full power. He wasn't holding back meaning he was using a serious degree of his physical strength. Iron Man's current armor is very powerful. Spider-Man has been able to spot extremely fast beings, faster than Master Roshi but Iron Man was far too fast, I didn't say its a big feat for someone to be faster than Spider-Man, its a big feat for you to be too fast for Spider-Man to see. No a moon busting attack wouldn't destroy Iron Man, Iron Man is far too durable. His armor is designed to easily withstand nuclear explosions without having to use his energy shields. Piccolo during this period of time could not generate enough energy to potentially defeat Iron Man considering Iron Man has faced beings far more powerful than Piccolo and has designed his current armor to withstand damage by powerful beings such as Thor or The Silver Surfer, his Extremis Suit is too durable for this version of Piccolo to harm. Later versions of Piccolo will harm him but this version is far too weak, a moon busting attack isn't even equivalent to a full force punch from The Hulk, normal Savage Hulk was physically stronger than Gladiator who shattered entire planets with the force of his blows and Classic Iron Man's armor was durable enough to withstand powerful blows from an extremely enraged Savage Hulk that was sufficient force to shatter an entire planet and that was Classic Iron Man. Current Iron Man is far more powerful. Yes Iron Man does win you are correct there sir. "
Iron man or OF Thor obviously wasn't using their full powered attack, and how  much power they were using we don't know, but full power no way.
And Roshi is at least as fast as spiderman
  http://manga.bleachexile.com/dragon-ball-chapter-73-page-6.html
 http://manga.bleachexile.com/dragon-ball-chapter-37-page-13.html
 http://manga.bleachexile.com/dragon-ball-chapter-42-page-4.html
 http://manga.bleachexile.com/dragon-ball-chapter-43-page-7.html  
 and Roshi cant see Piccolo moving
 
Being able to easily withstand nuclear explosions means nothing at this point 
 This is 57 Megaton A- bomb 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxD44HO8dNQ To destroy moon you would need more than 1 x10 ^15  Megaton.  even tho Hulk was stronger than Gladiator, he was no where near as fast, and speed of a punch is very important equivalent when you want to destroy something. Hulk at his best was able to shatter continents.   "
Actually no. Classic Savage Hulk was shattered an asteroid three times the size of Earth so yes he can shatter planets. I didn't say he was using full power, I said the amount of power Thor was using was far too much, even Thor holding back especially because he was using the Odinforce that is a source of energy powerful enough to destroy galaxies was a lot of damage and more power than any moon busting attack.   It really doesn't matter what kind of speed this version of Piccolo has because he still isn't faster than Iron Man. Of course speed is important, the faster you move the heavier you become so the amount of force Gladiator used was incredible especially since he was traveling at 770 miles per hour, second of all I already stated how The Hulk is able to shatter worlds.   I said Iron Man can easily withstand Nuclear Bombs not that it is great to withstand one, being able to easily withstand something like that is no joke especially when it is done with no effort.   Nonetheless Iron Man wins anyway. Piccolo stops at either Namor or Iron Man.  "
but hulk cant fly  "
DBZ characters normally begin battle by trading blows. The odds are that Piccolo will do the same and will be pummeled. The Hulk has dealt with opponents with the ability of flight. I haven't heard from you in a while FLCL1. 
 
 
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Post by Sonata (35,386 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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Green Scar has fought the Sentry who could also fly, Piccolo's energy attacks wont do any good against him, he will have to get close, and that is where he will lose.
Post by Mortein (1,558 posts) See mini bio Level 9
@Sonata said:
" Green Scar has fought the Sentry who could also fly, Piccolo's energy attacks wont do any good against him, he will have to get close, and that is where he will lose. "
guys like Thor, Sentry, Silver Surfer, Gladiator all have a tendency of fighting stupid against hulk. All of this guys should be able to beat hulk easily. 
Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19
@Mortein said:

" @Sonata said:

" Green Scar has fought the Sentry who could also fly, Piccolo's energy attacks wont do any good against him, he will have to get close, and that is where he will lose. "
guys like Thor, Sentry, Silver Surfer, Gladiator all have a tendency of fighting stupid against hulk. All of this guys should be able to beat hulk easily.  "
Sometimes they have a tendency to fight stupid against The Hulk. Gladiator, The Silver Surfer and Sentry have all used their flight against The Hulk and it wasn't that useful. Piccolo can use his flight however he can project as much energy as he can and it is not sufficient enough to harm The Hulk especially when we are talking about Green Scar, then what can he resort to? Piccolo's long ranged attacks are not going to aid him against an opponent who has withstood explosions equivalent to megaton bombs in the face without sustaining injury, he would be forced to trade blows and would be crushed. BFR wouldn't work either considering that Piccolo isn't strong enough to BFR Green Scar even with his combined speed and flight he isn't strong enough to BFR him. It doesn't really matter either because Piccolo will stop at either Namor or Iron Man. 
 
 
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Post by Klandicar (104 posts) See mini bio Level 1
Yeah right guys, Piccolo blew up a moon with a power level of around 1300.  He'll just moon bust all these characters and it'll be a done deal.  DBZ is on a different level than these street levelers with super strength.  Beam cannon fire would also 1 shot them if he wants to cause less collateral damage.
 
Then there is the speed difference.  Even Roshi and Krillin were able to pull off an entire fight sequence in <1 second.  This is with power levels in the low hundreds.  I have scans if anyone is interested in that, it is an insane speed/reaction feat.  Meaning....DBZ characters can pull off dozens of hits naked to the eye in under a second.  Piccolo can simply pummel em and they would think it is a ghost because they just cant keep up.
Post by Sonata (35,386 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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Blowing up a moon is no big deal against people who have taken Blast from Thor and/or Silver Surfer who can the power to destroy a planet or rearrange some ones Molecules with their power.
Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19
@Klandicar said:

" Yeah right guys, Piccolo blew up a moon with a power level of around 1300.  He'll just moon bust all these characters and it'll be a done deal.  DBZ is on a different level than these street levelers with super strength.  Beam cannon fire would also 1 shot them if he wants to cause less collateral damage.  Then there is the speed difference.  Even Roshi and Krillin were able to pull off an entire fight sequence in <1 second.  This is with power levels in the low hundreds.  I have scans if anyone is interested in that, it is an insane speed/reaction feat.  Meaning....DBZ characters can pull off dozens of hits naked to the eye in under a second.  Piccolo can simply pummel em and they would think it is a ghost because they just cant keep up. "

Klandicar I honestly do not understand why you do this. You have very limited knowledge about comic book characters and you still dare to post nonsense like this. This is evidenced because you just called Iron Man, Namor, Storm, Colossus and Green Scar street levelers which is nothing more than bordering insanity.  
 
Having enough power to destroy the Moon is nothing when you are comparing people who have withstood powerful energy projection from the likes of Thor and The Silver Surfer. Of course it is easy to watch Dragon Ball Z and believe they can defeat anyone when you have absolutely no knowledge on other characters however what makes you think this version of Piccolo has enough power to even cause someone like lets say Green Scar flinch? Speed is not a factor when Iron Man is several times faster than Piccolo, you do realize that Iron Man has impressed even The Sentry with his speed? The Sentry is a being who is able to easily catch Sniper bullets in mid air inches away from its intended target with using any effort, Iron Man has on several occasions delivered several hits in under 0.0003 seconds. You are practically the only user who is disagreeing with everyone that Piccolo can actually win.  
 
And again it is quite annoying when a user believes that simply because a character can destroy moons and planets with the power of their energy projection they can vaporize anyone or they will simply blow up the planet they or on and what not. If that was the case then Green Scar and Namor should have easily been defeat long ago by The Silver Surfer, Thor, Doctor Strange etc. You should know that Regular Savage Hulk withstood the equivalent of Solar Flares and Solar Flares have a lot more energy than this version of Piccolo considering that Piccolo here can destroy moons while Solar Flares destroy entire planets. The Silver Surfer could not harm Savage Hulk with a powerful energy blast stated to have enough power to destroy entire stars and more and The Hulk that is being used is Green Scar who is a lot more powerful than Savage Hulk.  
 
I suggest you do more research and then return instead of simply assuming things. Also when you debate do not talk about a single character's feats, compare them to the opponent's feats as well to properly deduce the winner. Again everyone else has agreed that Piccolo will stop at either Namor or Iron Man and most definitely Iron Man who is faster and stronger than Piccolo.  
 
 
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Post by FLCL1 (3,935 posts) See mini bio Level 7
@Newdeath:
XD
Post by cfatalis (19,150 posts) See mini bio Level 15
@Newdeath: look newdeath, he is the guy who said vegitto and goggeta could BFR DS to hell...........
 
which is one of the rather idiotic move i have ever seen, considering DS have satan's body
 
 
he deserve to be in flcl's award
Post by FLCL1 (3,935 posts) See mini bio Level 7
@cfatalis:
lol u guys face plamed him already?
Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19
@cfatalis said:

" @Newdeath: look newdeath, he is the guy who said vegitto and goggeta could BFR DS to hell...........  which is one of the rather idiotic move i have ever seen, considering DS have satan's body   he deserve to be in flcl's award "

He said that huh? Hmm..he's worse then I thought. That isn't the worst thing I've heard from him though. I've observed him somewhat on ComicVine and he suggested that Vegito was a good match for Galactus.  
 
 
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Post by cfatalis (19,150 posts) See mini bio Level 15
@Newdeath said:

" @cfatalis said:

" @Newdeath: look newdeath, he is the guy who said vegitto and goggeta could BFR DS to hell...........  which is one of the rather idiotic move i have ever seen, considering DS have satan's body   he deserve to be in flcl's award "

He said that huh? Hmm..he's worse then I thought. That isn't the worst thing I've heard from him though. I've observed him somewhat on ComicVine and he suggested that Vegito was a good match for Galactus.    ND "
 http://www.animevice.com/forums/battles/33/dark-schneider-vs-gogeta-and-vegetto/207728/#14
Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19
@cfatalis said:
" @Newdeath said:

" @cfatalis said:

" @Newdeath: look newdeath, he is the guy who said vegitto and goggeta could BFR DS to hell...........  which is one of the rather idiotic move i have ever seen, considering DS have satan's body   he deserve to be in flcl's award "

He said that huh? Hmm..he's worse then I thought. That isn't the worst thing I've heard from him though. I've observed him somewhat on ComicVine and he suggested that Vegito was a good match for Galactus.    ND "
 http://www.animevice.com/forums/battles/33/dark-schneider-vs-gogeta-and-vegetto/207728/#14 "
Oh he's a special one cfatalis, a special sir indeed. 
 
 
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