Pein vs. Luffy

Topic started by Frieza on Nov. 15, 2010. Last post by TheManipulater 3 years, 2 months ago.
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Post by Kurohige (3,703 posts) See mini bio Level 19

Luffy, Shirai tensei would not affect him since he is rubber. As for summonings, he easily knocked out giant sea kings in the begining of One Piece he would have no problem with those things, same thing for the paths.
Post by hitsusatsu11 (10,746 posts) See mini bio Level 20
@Kurohige said:
, Shirai tensei would not affect him since he is rubber.
???? 
 
Rubber is immune to gravity manipulation now? 
Post by Destinyheroknight (10,247 posts) See mini bio Level 21
@Kurohige: 
Can you prove that luffy is not effect by gravity manipulation?
Post by Dream (7,489 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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Luffy takes this match with some difficulty, mainly from Deva, Asura and Animal paths. The other three are limited in scope of abilities to be of threat so they can be quickly dispatched by Luffy. Preta Path would be very worthless for this battle as nearly all of Luffy's attacks are physical blows. The Deva and Animal Paths would make use of gravity repulsion and summoning spammage to keep Luffy at a distance for attacks which would work for a decent amount of time. In addition, the Asura path's been shown to take a great amount of damage taking attacks from Choza and Kakashi plus demonstrating a great amount of physical power. But, these won't be enough to kill Luffy thanks to his body and strength. If the Animal Path is offed, so go the summons. If the Deva Path can find the time to prep one of his larger scale attacks like the city-busting version of Shinra Tensei and Chibaku Tensei, then it could potentially be a threat to Luffy. But this is assuming the three react quickly enough to off the Straw Hat Captain before he makes use of his Gears and Haki techniques. If Luffy resorts to these, then Pein is royally screwed.
Post by hitsusatsu11 (10,746 posts) See mini bio Level 20
Deva path flies into the air where luffy cannot reach him and uses Shirai Tensa, Chibaku Tensei, or  Bansho Tenin that ends Luffy. Or while Deva flies up to ready his attack, Animal Path summons many giant beasts to attack Luffy and  Asura Path shoots missiles to distract luffy. While luffy is dealing with Animal and Asura, Preta path can be used as a diversion, and Human Path and Naraka path can both soul fcuk luffy. All the paths share the same field of vision, and said field of vsion is even shared amongst the summoned beasts. 
 
Pain has the better destructive power, and luffy cannot tank what Pain can dish out: 
 




 




 Pain can also form mini moons and crush luffy to death 
 


Pain stomps
Post by Dream (7,489 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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@hitsusatsu11:  Except making use of said destructive power requires quite a good amount of prep. For the souped-up Shinra Tensei, Nagato needs to cut off chakra to the other Paths to use the attack with the Deva Path and Chibaku Tensei requires Deva Path to be in close proximity of Nagato's location. A good number of One Piece characters have shown speed feats that surpass what the Naruto characters have shown, counting Luffy. Adding Gear Second and Haki (especially with Kenbunshoku and Busoshoku Haki) to the mix makes things far more hazardous for the Peins.
Post by hitsusatsu11 (10,746 posts) See mini bio Level 20
@Dream: Pain need not use city busting, an average bansho tenin can be used to pull luffy into where the 6 paths are, then Human Path can rip out luffy's soul or the Outer Path can be summoned to also take luffy's soul. 
Post by Hirako_Fan (1,043 posts) See mini bio Level 10
Luffy Wins mid-hard fificulty as the main problem is Deva if he takes himout the rest is piece of cake as summons wont be aproblem for reasons stated above
Post by Kurohige (3,703 posts) See mini bio Level 19
@Dream said:

"Luffy takes this match with some difficulty, mainly from Deva, Asura and Animal paths. The other three are limited in scope of abilities to be of threat so they can be quickly dispatched by Luffy. Preta Path would be very worthless for this battle as nearly all of Luffy's attacks are physical blows. The Deva and Animal Paths would make use of gravity repulsion and summoning spammage to keep Luffy at a distance for attacks which would work for a decent amount of time. In addition, the Asura path's been shown to take a great amount of damage taking attacks from Choza and Kakashi plus demonstrating a great amount of physical power. But, these won't be enough to kill Luffy thanks to his body and strength. If the Animal Path is offed, so go the summons. If the Deva Path can find the time to prep one of his larger scale attacks like the city-busting version of Shinra Tensei and Chibaku Tensei, then it could potentially be a threat to Luffy. But this is assuming the three react quickly enough to off the Straw Hat Captain before he makes use of his Gears and Haki techniques. If Luffy resorts to these, then Pein is royally screwed. "

Indeed, Pain just isn't up there with Luffy, as of now too. Though he will have a hard time with this match.
@Destinyheroknight:
@hitsusatsu11: 

you can't smash rubber lol Pain only pushes things really if he tries to crush luffy it wont really harm him, besides, Pain's gravity manipulation is nothing to Blackbeard's which Luffy has already been against.
Post by hitsusatsu11 (10,746 posts) See mini bio Level 20
@Kurohige: I don't think BB can control gravity, and he certainly can't push and pull like Pain, and BB would likely beat Luffy. 
Post by Jinbeifan1 (3,275 posts) See mini bio Level 14
pre time skip luffy has a 50/50 chance of winning but post time skip luffy wins although not with ease for pein is a very powerful opponent but in the end luffy wins
Post by taichokage (13,011 posts) See mini bio Level 20
The thing is, Pain is a heck of a lot more powerful but his really powerful techniques are well suited for Luffy. His mass shinra, chibaku tensei and bansho tenin are all blunt attacks. Paths like Asura would be useless here and Animal Path would be nothing Luffy hasn't dealt with a hundred times before. I'd say Luffy has a chance of winning but my money would still be on Pain, at least until I see more feats from Luffy.
Post by Dream (7,489 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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@hitsusatsu11:  Pein's small-scale Shinra Tensei on close targets works kind of like getting whammed by a cannonball. Luffy's body is shown to be very resilient against blunt attacks. So the assumption here is that small-scale Shinra Tensei on Luffy would be no different than getting whammed by a cannonball. The attack wouldn't damage Luffy. Bansho Tenin would be more harm than good if the Peins are all together and get whammed by a Gear Third-powered attack from Luffy or if the attack is anticipated from Luffy's use of Kenbunshoku Haki.
 
The soul sucking from the paths you mentioned would be worthless as Human Path would need to get extremely close to Luffy to do the attack and Naraka Path's use of it against others is only within interrogation methods, which the Peins aren't doing for this battle.
Post by Jinbeifan1 (3,275 posts) See mini bio Level 14
@hitsusatsu11:
he cant push like pein but his pull is better it was difficult to pull kakashi in for pein but bb pulled ace and luffy in without trouble and ive given thought about why naruto's creator put guy and his crew out of the village at the time, because him and rock lee, if knew about his 3-6 second gap would beat him down with there speed he wouldent be able to react fast enogh what can he do to someone like luffy who moves as fast as or even faster than them and doesnt tire out like they do? what would happen is luffy goes G 2nd and attacks, pein reflects his first attack sending luffy back but luffy recovers in a split second and unloads on pein by appearing behind him before he can recover his grav attack fast enough, and lets say he  uses his mini moon attack, although its not really big as a mini moon a small island maybe but not a moon, when he went up against shiki,(which was not considered filler) luffy busted shikis floating islands with giant thor axe, now that he has haki, its probably even more powerful than that ad as for animal summons lets not forget how animals(except talking ones) are all useless to luffy's king haki which knocks out animals like nothing i mean if his summons can talk then this statement can be argued but he beats them either way with or without haki there not the problem
Post by hitsusatsu11 (10,746 posts) See mini bio Level 20
@Dream:  Pain uses Bansho Tenin to pull luffy in close, then he meets 1 of 2 soul fcuks. 
 
@Dream said:
" @hitsusatsu11:  Pein's small-scale Shinra Tensei on close targets works kind of like getting whammed by a cannonball. Luffy's body is shown to be very resilient against blunt attacks. So the assumption here is that small-scale Shinra Tensei on Luffy would be no different than getting whammed by a cannonball. 
Your assumption, my assumption is Deva can use this to pull luffy in to meet a soul fcuk attack. 
 
 The soul sucking from the paths you mentioned would be worthless as Human Path would need to get extremely close to Luffy to do the attack and Naraka Path's use of it against others is only within interrogation methods, which the Peins aren't doing for this battle. "
Human Path can rip out souls, he also interogated ppl when he wanted to know where Naruto was, doesn't have anything to do with this situation, he can still rip out a soul. 
Naraka Path can summon the Outer Path who can take souls. 
 
 what would happen is luffy goes G 2nd and attacks, pein reflects his first attack sending luffy back but luffy recovers in a split second and unloads on pein by appearing behind him before he can recover his grav attack fast enough, and lets say he  uses his mini moon attack, although its not really big as a mini moon a small island maybe but not a moon, when he went up against shiki,(which was not considered filler) luffy busted shikis floating islands with giant thor axe, now that he has haki, its probably even more powerful than that "
But remember there are 6 Pains here, all share the same field of vision with the rinnigan, all can use basic shinobi bunshins and substitutionary, Luffy could hit one only to realize its a wood substitution, then be left open to a soul steal or a mini moon, and you can see the mini moon is far bigger than the mountains in the picture. 
I don't know anything about Shiki.
Post by Jinbeifan1 (3,275 posts) See mini bio Level 14
@hitsusatsu11:
lets say he pulls luffy iin, then luffy could do a haki mixed jet bazooka and end the main pain or who he uses as a replacement but then the replacement and the regular pein are practically blown away , mechanical pein is easily one shotted here nothing he can do to luffy but im sure you know that, the no ninjutsu pein is easy he has no ninjutsu and luffy's reaction time speed strength and mantra makes thistoo easy down goes two, summons wont work cause of luffy's haki so he takes down the summon path easily thats three, one pein was killed easily by narutos rasengan shuriken so dont knoow about that one but ill say a haki embued jet bazooka takes it down four down now, then the revival pein trys to bring some back, luffys to fast and would blitz it wih move after move till its dead. finally comes the grav pein(sorry dont know their names) he'll be the biggest pein in the ass(like my little play on words haha yea i know lame joke -_-) his little grav pushes and pulls would be annoying but if he uses his push luffy in G 2nd can come back in no time before his power comes back and if he pulls then luffy can just use it to do an attack but peins smarter than that so he'll try his shinrai tensei but its blunt force so it woldent affect luffy like it would anybody else but since this drains him of his power it leaves luffy to unload as many attacks as he wants on him and if he chooses to do the mini moon thing  he'll be in the air which luffy can just jump up and hit him with an attack and the moon thing wont be as affective on him since again he is rubber  
Post by hitsusatsu11 (10,746 posts) See mini bio Level 20
@Jinbeifan1: The way you describe luffy makes him sound like some sort of unbeatable god of fighting. 
Post by Kurohige (3,703 posts) See mini bio Level 19
@hitsusatsu11 said:
" @Jinbeifan1: The way you describe luffy makes him sound like some sort of unbeatable god of fighting.  "

Well when making an argument for someone and trying to be positive it's kinda hard not to.
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