ive been thinking about this, whos stronger and who you think would win a full on ninja/jutsu battle?
Pain wins but Itachi gives him hell.
"Pain should win. This is mostly due to Itachi's deteriorating physical condition due to his terminal disease. We haven't seen what Itachi is fully capable of since during his first appearance he was already suffering from his unknown illness. Although Itachi is one of the fastest and most powerful shinobi in the entire series he would definitely fall against Pain. Itachi would indeed last a reasonable period of time due to his Mangekyou Sharingan techniques and his speed although Pain would in due time overwhelm him with the number's game (due to his Six Paths) as well possessing overall greater power. Fukasaku stated that without understanding Pain's power then one would lose against him and since this thread does not grant Itachi any prep then he would lose. It should be noted that before the Naruto Shippuden series, Itachi and Kisame were to engage Jiraiya in a battle however Itachi decided against it well aware that they would suffer defeat while Pain after revealing his Six Paths was the cause of Jiraiya's death, in addition Jiraiya was in "Sage Mode" when he fought Pain. While most of the Rinnegan's abilities are unknown it does grant the user to use all type of elemental chakra although Pain's mastery over them is unknown. Pain's Deva Path should prove a tremendous problem for Itachi due to devastating techniques such as the Shinra Tensei, Chibaku Tensei etc. Pain could have his Preta Path absorb Itachi's chakra if it manages to get his hands on him or he could simply use the Preta Path to negate any ninjutsu used Itachi. Itachi will also be overwhelmed by the ridiculously high number of summons that the Animal Path can bring forth in battle. The most troublesome Path I believe would be the Asura Path. It is capable of firing clusters of dangerous missiles, it could open the crown of its head to release a powerful shock-wave capable of simultaneously destroying entire buildings and it could use numerous sharp blades and drills. Its physical power was enough to rip Jiraiya's arm off so it is clear that the Asura Path would provide some heavy firepower. Even if Itachi manages to destroy some of Pain's bodies, Pain's Outer Path can be used to repair any damaged or killed Path. Though Itachi is an exceptionally powerful shinobi mostly due to his speed and Mangekyou Sharingan techniques (Susanoo, Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi) he would be overwhelmed by the numerous bodies Pain has it his disposal and even his most powerful techniques such as Susanoo can only be used for a very short period of time. With the sufficient knowledge on Pain's abilities and enough prep time then Itachi would defeat him but in a random battle Pain would definitely win. I am also not certain about this but when Pain fought Kakashi he used his Rinnegan to cast some genjutsu-like mental attack I believe on Kakashi that caused him to involuntarily miss the Deva Path with his Chidori so I believe he could do the same to Itachi. ND "
" @Satoris: Then if it is only the Deva Path involved in the battle then Itachi surely wins. An intellectual shinobi like Itachi would easily spot the 5 second time limit the Deva Path has, not only that but compared to Itachi, the Deva Path is below him in terms of power and speed. ND "Anime Deva isn't slower by any means. He can deflect laser speed attacks (lasers), and in one run he was able to: