Nicholas D. Wolfwood vs King Bradley(Wrath)

Topic started by Haofan123 on June 6, 2012. Last post by Haofan123 2 years, 1 month ago.
Post by Haofan123 (3,675 posts) See mini bio Level 13
VS
VS

Morals ON

In character

To the death

Manga Wolfwood

Manga Bradley

Wolfwood has 6 healing vials

Bradley has 5 swords

Starting distance:10 meters

Location:

So, who wins?

Post by TheNobody (289 posts) See mini bio Level 7
What exactly can Nicholas do? I don't know anything about this character if you don't mind.
Post by Haofan123 (3,675 posts) See mini bio Level 13

@TheNobody said:

What exactly can Nicholas do? I don't know anything about this character if you don't mind.

He is a trained assassin who uses a weapon called the punisher, which is a cross shaped machine gun that doubles as a rocket launcher.He has a pistol as well. In addition to that, his senses ares all enhanced and he has superhuman durability and regeneration that can be boosted by the healing vials. His speed is so much that he was able to move faster than a bullet timer later on in the series

Post by TheNobody (289 posts) See mini bio Level 7
@Haofan123: He's basically like another Bradley but with guns instead of blades. I'll admit this is a good pairing and battle since the both of them are quite alike from what I read. If you know anything about Bradley he's speed blitzed a few bullet timers such as Fu, Ling/Greed, and has easily beaten a Homunculi who can turn his skin into material harder than diamonds. He's also taken down a tank without the use of his ultimate eye and fought two bullet timers while avoiding firearms from armed troops all at the same time. 
Post by Haofan123 (3,675 posts) See mini bio Level 13

@TheNobody said:

@Haofan123: He's basically like another Bradley but with guns instead of blades. I'll admit this is a good pairing and battle since the both of them are quite alike from what I read. If you know anything about Bradley he's speed blitzed a few bullet timers such as Fu, Ling/Greed, and has easily beaten a Homunculi who can turn his skin into material harder than diamonds. He's also taken down a tank without the use of his ultimate eye and fought two bullet timers while avoiding firearms from armed troops all at the same time.

Yeah bradley is a boss lol. And while i will admit that the anime did overexadurate his fight against the tank a bit in the anime(what with cutting tank shells in half and all), its still impressive nonetheless. Wolfwood has feats like that as well. In the manga, he went up against a highly destructive and rather large mech known as grey the ninelives and managed to destory it

Post by DBZ_universe (15,661 posts) See mini bio Level 17

Well looking at Nicholas feats.. and damn this is a pretty awesome fight... but does Wrath gets to use Ultimate eye?? if so he might take it...

Post by Haofan123 (3,675 posts) See mini bio Level 13

@DBZ_universe said:

Well looking at Nicholas feats.. and damn this is a pretty awesome fight... but does Wrath gets to use Ultimate eye?? if so he might take it...

He can use his ultimate eye in this fight, but I dont think that it would be the deciding factor in this matchup as wolfwood has been shown to use destractions, misdirections and the like in many of his fights, which is the ultimate eyes biggest, if not only flaw

For example:

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/trigun_maximum/v09/c004/23.html

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/trigun_maximum/v09/c004/24.html

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/trigun_maximum/v09/c004/28.html

Post by DBZ_universe (15,661 posts) See mini bio Level 17

@Haofan123 said:

@DBZ_universe said:

Well looking at Nicholas feats.. and damn this is a pretty awesome fight... but does Wrath gets to use Ultimate eye?? if so he might take it...

He can use his ultimate eye in this fight, but I dont think that it would be the deciding factor in this matchup as wolfwood has been shown to use destractions, misdirections and the like in many of his fights, which is the ultimate eyes biggest, if not only flaw

For example:

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/trigun_maximum/v09/c004/23.html

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/trigun_maximum/v09/c004/24.html

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/trigun_maximum/v09/c004/28.html

I see... well if he is able to use distractions then he might beat Wrath because that is true the down fall of the Ultimate eye is distraction, but that wont be easy to perform tho

Post by Haofan123 (3,675 posts) See mini bio Level 13

@DBZ_universe said:

@Haofan123 said:

@DBZ_universe said:

Well looking at Nicholas feats.. and damn this is a pretty awesome fight... but does Wrath gets to use Ultimate eye?? if so he might take it...

He can use his ultimate eye in this fight, but I dont think that it would be the deciding factor in this matchup as wolfwood has been shown to use destractions, misdirections and the like in many of his fights, which is the ultimate eyes biggest, if not only flaw

For example:

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/trigun_maximum/v09/c004/23.html

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/trigun_maximum/v09/c004/24.html

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/trigun_maximum/v09/c004/28.html

I see... well if he is able to use distractions then he might beat Wrath because that is true the down fall of the Ultimate eye is distraction, but that wont be easy to perform tho

Agreed. But hey, if it was easy for either of them to win then it wouldnt be much of a match, would it?

Post by DBZ_universe (15,661 posts) See mini bio Level 17

@Haofan123 said:

@DBZ_universe said:

@Haofan123 said:

@DBZ_universe said:

Well looking at Nicholas feats.. and damn this is a pretty awesome fight... but does Wrath gets to use Ultimate eye?? if so he might take it...

He can use his ultimate eye in this fight, but I dont think that it would be the deciding factor in this matchup as wolfwood has been shown to use destractions, misdirections and the like in many of his fights, which is the ultimate eyes biggest, if not only flaw

For example:

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/trigun_maximum/v09/c004/23.html

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/trigun_maximum/v09/c004/24.html

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/trigun_maximum/v09/c004/28.html

I see... well if he is able to use distractions then he might beat Wrath because that is true the down fall of the Ultimate eye is distraction, but that wont be easy to perform tho

Agreed. But hey, if it was easy for either of them to win then it wouldnt be much of a match, would it?

Yes agreed... but I believe in long range Wolfwood would have the advantage due to his guns and Bradley would have a good chance of course at close range and if he gets Wolfwood I believe he wouldn't give him time to heal just like he did against greed.

Post by Haofan123 (3,675 posts) See mini bio Level 13

@DBZ_universe said:

@Haofan123 said:

@DBZ_universe said:

@Haofan123 said:

@DBZ_universe said:

Well looking at Nicholas feats.. and damn this is a pretty awesome fight... but does Wrath gets to use Ultimate eye?? if so he might take it...

He can use his ultimate eye in this fight, but I dont think that it would be the deciding factor in this matchup as wolfwood has been shown to use destractions, misdirections and the like in many of his fights, which is the ultimate eyes biggest, if not only flaw

For example:

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/trigun_maximum/v09/c004/23.html

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/trigun_maximum/v09/c004/24.html

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/trigun_maximum/v09/c004/28.html

I see... well if he is able to use distractions then he might beat Wrath because that is true the down fall of the Ultimate eye is distraction, but that wont be easy to perform tho

Agreed. But hey, if it was easy for either of them to win then it wouldnt be much of a match, would it?

Yes agreed... but I believe in long range Wolfwood would have the advantage due to his guns and Bradley would have a good chance of course at close range and if he gets Wolfwood I believe he wouldn't give him time to heal just like he did against greed.

That sounds about right. Wolfwood healing factor is good, but it is a far cry from that of a homunculus as well. For example, If bradley were to cut one of his limbs off, he wouldnt be able to simply grow it back. His healing vials are extremely potent though and have been show to heal him from hundreds of machine gun wounds in seconds. They have a downside though as if he uses to many in a short period of time he will overdose and he will die. I think that you are right about braldey having an advantage in close combat as well, however wolfwood is no slouch in that area either:

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/trigun_maximum/v10/c005/15.html

Here he is shown engaging in close combat with a bullet timer and eventually gains the upperhand

Post by DBZ_universe (15,661 posts) See mini bio Level 17

@Haofan123 said:

@DBZ_universe said:

@Haofan123 said:

@DBZ_universe said:

@Haofan123 said:

@DBZ_universe said:

Well looking at Nicholas feats.. and damn this is a pretty awesome fight... but does Wrath gets to use Ultimate eye?? if so he might take it...

He can use his ultimate eye in this fight, but I dont think that it would be the deciding factor in this matchup as wolfwood has been shown to use destractions, misdirections and the like in many of his fights, which is the ultimate eyes biggest, if not only flaw

For example:

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/trigun_maximum/v09/c004/23.html

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/trigun_maximum/v09/c004/24.html

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/trigun_maximum/v09/c004/28.html

I see... well if he is able to use distractions then he might beat Wrath because that is true the down fall of the Ultimate eye is distraction, but that wont be easy to perform tho

Agreed. But hey, if it was easy for either of them to win then it wouldnt be much of a match, would it?

Yes agreed... but I believe in long range Wolfwood would have the advantage due to his guns and Bradley would have a good chance of course at close range and if he gets Wolfwood I believe he wouldn't give him time to heal just like he did against greed.

That sounds about right. Wolfwood healing factor is good, but it is a far cry from that of a homunculus as well. For example, If bradley were to cut one of his limbs off, he wouldnt be able to simply grow it back. His healing vials are extremely potent though and have been show to heal him from hundreds of machine gun wounds in seconds. They have a downside though as if he uses to many in a short period of time he will overdose and he will die. I think that you are right about braldey having an advantage in close combat as well, however wolfwood is no slouch in that area either:

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/trigun_maximum/v10/c005/15.html

Here he is shown engaging in close combat with a bullet timer and eventually gains the upperhand

That's impressive feat. he truly has great bullet reactions... Same with Bradley he is no slouch either regardless of his age...

Here is when he escaped the train

and here he is dodging bullets with ease.

but I think the first one to make a mistake would be their downfall (idk about Wolfwood but knowing Wrath he would take advantage of that) But since you said that Wolf has rocket launchers as well then he might also take it he can launch it to the ground and when Bradley jumps out he can shoot Bradley when he is open and since Bradley doesn't have healing factor he will get killed...

Post by Haofan123 (3,675 posts) See mini bio Level 13

@DBZ_universe said:

@Haofan123 said:

@DBZ_universe said:

@Haofan123 said:

@DBZ_universe said:

@Haofan123 said:

@DBZ_universe said:

Well looking at Nicholas feats.. and damn this is a pretty awesome fight... but does Wrath gets to use Ultimate eye?? if so he might take it...

He can use his ultimate eye in this fight, but I dont think that it would be the deciding factor in this matchup as wolfwood has been shown to use destractions, misdirections and the like in many of his fights, which is the ultimate eyes biggest, if not only flaw

For example:

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/trigun_maximum/v09/c004/23.html

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/trigun_maximum/v09/c004/24.html

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/trigun_maximum/v09/c004/28.html

I see... well if he is able to use distractions then he might beat Wrath because that is true the down fall of the Ultimate eye is distraction, but that wont be easy to perform tho

Agreed. But hey, if it was easy for either of them to win then it wouldnt be much of a match, would it?

Yes agreed... but I believe in long range Wolfwood would have the advantage due to his guns and Bradley would have a good chance of course at close range and if he gets Wolfwood I believe he wouldn't give him time to heal just like he did against greed.

That sounds about right. Wolfwood healing factor is good, but it is a far cry from that of a homunculus as well. For example, If bradley were to cut one of his limbs off, he wouldnt be able to simply grow it back. His healing vials are extremely potent though and have been show to heal him from hundreds of machine gun wounds in seconds. They have a downside though as if he uses to many in a short period of time he will overdose and he will die. I think that you are right about braldey having an advantage in close combat as well, however wolfwood is no slouch in that area either:

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/trigun_maximum/v10/c005/15.html

Here he is shown engaging in close combat with a bullet timer and eventually gains the upperhand

That's impressive feat. he truly has great bullet reactions... Same with Bradley he is no slouch either regardless of his age...

Here is when he escaped the train

and here he is dodging bullets with ease.

but I think the first one to make a mistake would be their downfall (idk about Wolfwood but knowing Wrath he would take advantage of that) But since you said that Wolf has rocket launchers as well then he might also take it he can launch it to the ground and when Bradley jumps out he can shoot Bradley when he is open and since Bradley doesn't have healing factor he will get killed...

oh yes, absolutely. Bradley is a complete monster in is own right. I dont think any of the other homunculi with the exception of Pride(and maybe greedling if he was going all out from the start) could take him down. I think that whoever takes this match would do so by a razor thin margine

Post by DBZ_universe (15,661 posts) See mini bio Level 17

@Haofan123 said:

@DBZ_universe said:

@Haofan123 said:

@DBZ_universe said:

@Haofan123 said:

@DBZ_universe said:

@Haofan123 said:

@DBZ_universe said:

Well looking at Nicholas feats.. and damn this is a pretty awesome fight... but does Wrath gets to use Ultimate eye?? if so he might take it...

He can use his ultimate eye in this fight, but I dont think that it would be the deciding factor in this matchup as wolfwood has been shown to use destractions, misdirections and the like in many of his fights, which is the ultimate eyes biggest, if not only flaw

For example:

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/trigun_maximum/v09/c004/23.html

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/trigun_maximum/v09/c004/24.html

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/trigun_maximum/v09/c004/28.html

I see... well if he is able to use distractions then he might beat Wrath because that is true the down fall of the Ultimate eye is distraction, but that wont be easy to perform tho

Agreed. But hey, if it was easy for either of them to win then it wouldnt be much of a match, would it?

Yes agreed... but I believe in long range Wolfwood would have the advantage due to his guns and Bradley would have a good chance of course at close range and if he gets Wolfwood I believe he wouldn't give him time to heal just like he did against greed.

That sounds about right. Wolfwood healing factor is good, but it is a far cry from that of a homunculus as well. For example, If bradley were to cut one of his limbs off, he wouldnt be able to simply grow it back. His healing vials are extremely potent though and have been show to heal him from hundreds of machine gun wounds in seconds. They have a downside though as if he uses to many in a short period of time he will overdose and he will die. I think that you are right about braldey having an advantage in close combat as well, however wolfwood is no slouch in that area either:

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/trigun_maximum/v10/c005/15.html

Here he is shown engaging in close combat with a bullet timer and eventually gains the upperhand

That's impressive feat. he truly has great bullet reactions... Same with Bradley he is no slouch either regardless of his age...

Here is when he escaped the train

and here he is dodging bullets with ease.

but I think the first one to make a mistake would be their downfall (idk about Wolfwood but knowing Wrath he would take advantage of that) But since you said that Wolf has rocket launchers as well then he might also take it he can launch it to the ground and when Bradley jumps out he can shoot Bradley when he is open and since Bradley doesn't have healing factor he will get killed...

oh yes, absolutely. Bradley is a complete monster in is own right. I dont think any of the other homunculi with the exception of Pride(and maybe greedling if he was going all out from the start) could take him down. I think that whoever takes this match would do so by a razor thin margine

Yes agreed... For now I can say this is draw in my opinion... cause it's hard to choose the winner

Post by Haofan123 (3,675 posts) See mini bio Level 13

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Post by Dream (7,415 posts) See mini bio Level 20
Moderator
Oy, this one is a toughie to pick from. Both are about on par with one another in speed and Wolfwood could make use of the battle terrain to obstruct Bradley's Ultimate Eye. As discussed above, Bradley would have advantage in close combat while Wolfwood has it in far range, though both are more than capable of fending off attacks at said such opposite ranges. This battle would ultimately come down to whoever is the first to make an error and have their foe exploit it for a win.
Post by Haofan123 (3,675 posts) See mini bio Level 13

@Dream said:

Oy, this one is a toughie to pick from. Both are about on par with one another in speed and Wolfwood could make use of the battle terrain to obstruct Bradley's Ultimate Eye. As discussed above, Bradley would have advantage in close combat while Wolfwood has it in far range, though both are more than capable of fending off attacks at said such opposite ranges. This battle would ultimately come down to whoever is the first to make an error and have their foe exploit it for a win.

Thats a fair assessment but how big of a factor do you think the healing vials would play in this battle? I think that it would be one of the X factors of this match, the other being Bradleys ultimate eye

Post by Dream (7,415 posts) See mini bio Level 20
Moderator
@Haofan123: It would depend on whatever situation the two get into against one another. If Wolfwood consumes too many of the healing vials if injured too much from Bradley, the effects could weaken him to the point where he would be left to the mercy of Bradley. If Wolfwood can get enough of a read on Bradley's location and take advantage of the pillars where the Ultimate Eye couldn't perceive them, then he could get in shots to fatally wound the Fuhrer.
 
Like DBZ_universe, I would have to agree that this match is too close for me to personally call.
Post by Haofan123 (3,675 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Post by Fehafare (9,041 posts) See mini bio Level 13

They are more or less the same when it comes to stats. If Wolfwood keeps away from Wrath he'll take it. One rocket aimed at the floor and Wrath should be done, or at least so crippled that he can't walk. I don't see Wolfwood doing too well if it gets to a close encounter, his vials wouldn't help either. So all that i left to ask now, what is the starting distance?

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