Mr. Hercule Satan VS Captain America

Topic started by nickzambuto on Aug. 2, 2012. Last post by Lord_Frieza 2 years, 1 month ago.
Post by nickzambuto (52 posts) See mini bio Level 8

The champ takes on the first Avenger in this monumental event of pure epicness.

Fight takes place on the Golden Gate Bridge as seen above. Heavy traffic and road rage abound, these two fighters have more than just each other to worry about.

This will be a fair, H2H bout. No weapons.

Hercule starts under the first strut seen in the picture, Rogers under the far one.

Will the champ be taken down a peg or two? Or will Mr. Satan reign triumphant once again?

Post by Destinyheroknight (10,298 posts) See mini bio Level 21

Mr.Satan should take this, since he got back handed by Cell and live. Cap can't do nothing to him

Post by Dream (7,742 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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@Destinyheroknight: Wasn't that only because Cell held back his power immensely for the blow because he didn't find Satan worth killing and seen as a comedic moment?

Post by Destinyheroknight (10,298 posts) See mini bio Level 21

@Dream:

Cell still back handed him to a pillar of rocks that was pretty far away. So it still impressing

Post by Job (131 posts) See mini bio Level 6
@Dream said:

@Destinyheroknight: Wasn't that only because Cell held back his power immensely for the blow because he didn't find Satan worth killing and seen as a comedic moment?

And? he flew about 300 ft into a mountain cracking it and lived. If it weren't for the z fighters he'd be the best fighter on the planet. And he regularly displays enhanced strength.
Post by shonen (846 posts) See mini bio Level 9
Hmm...didn't satan get killed by a gun in buu arc, while Captain america is casually shown dodging bullets, and disarming people with his shield ?
Post by shonen (846 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Hercule gets taken out by dude with a gun. Isn't Captain America shown to be a bullet timer ?

Post by Destinyheroknight (10,298 posts) See mini bio Level 21

@shonen:

Mr.Satan is one of the only characters that haven't die in DBZ

Post by Dream (7,742 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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Still though, it doesn't necessarily mean Mr. Satan is fodder for Captain America as he is still a competent martial artist to human standards in the world of Dragon Ball whose feats would be on par with many of the fighters seen in the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai as he is shown to be a legitimate bullet timer (sidestepping incoming bullets from several thugs) and has feats of strength above ordinary humans such as tugging a line of several buses for a limited distance and chopping through nearly 20 boards. Captain America is roughly his equal in stats, but has more years of combat experience on his side. I give Cap the advantage for this match thanks to more experience, but I still see the possibility of Satan possibly prevailing if he can find an opening on Cap and not get too cocky in the heat of battle, especially since Cap doesn't have his trademark shield in this match.

Post by Dream (7,742 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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@shonen: Yeah, he did get shot. But I believe Fat Buu healed him before he got pissed off and spawned Evil Buu.

Post by shonen (846 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@Dream said:

Still though, it doesn't necessarily mean Mr. Satan is fodder for Captain America as he is still a competent martial artist to human standards in the world of Dragon Ball whose feats would be on par with many of the fighters seen in the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai as he is shown to be a legitimate bullet timer (sidestepping incoming bullets from several thugs) and has feats of strength above ordinary humans such as tugging a line of several buses for a limited distance and chopping through nearly 20 boards. Captain America is roughly his equal in stats, but has more years of combat experience on his side. I give Cap the advantage for this match thanks to more experience, but I still see the possibility of Satan possibly prevailing if he can find an opening on Cap and not get too cocky in the heat of battle, especially since Cap doesn't have his trademark shield in this match.

Actually Hercule isn't on par with the fighters from the 21st. The announcer from the 21st, 22nd, and 23rd budokai even stated the quality of fighters after goku and his friends stopped competing went down the crapper.

Post by Dream (7,742 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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@Job: Mr. Satan is the show's comic relief to a great extent with many of his so-called impressive durability feats against the major DBZ baddies normally treated as slapstick. The guy still got fatally wounded by gunfire before Fat Buu healed him up. Compare this to Goku, Krillin and Roshi in Dragon Ball who couldn't be wounded by gunfire, but they still felt the pain from the shots.

Post by Job (131 posts) See mini bio Level 6
 @Dream said:

@Job: Mr. Satan is the show's comic relief to a great extent with many of his so-called impressive durability feats against the major DBZ baddies normally treated as slapstick. The guy still got fatally wounded by gunfire before Fat Buu healed him up. Compare this to Goku, Krillin and Roshi in Dragon Ball who couldn't be wounded by gunfire, but they still felt the pain from the shots.


 
@shonen said:

Hercule gets taken out by dude with a gun. Isn't Captain America shown to be a bullet timer ?

Post by Destinyheroknight (10,298 posts) See mini bio Level 21

@shonen:

Oh yeah, in the manga Mr.Satan was shot in the back

Post by shonen (846 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@Job said:

@Dream said:

@Job: Mr. Satan is the show's comic relief to a great extent with many of his so-called impressive durability feats against the major DBZ baddies normally treated as slapstick. The guy still got fatally wounded by gunfire before Fat Buu healed him up. Compare this to Goku, Krillin and Roshi in Dragon Ball who couldn't be wounded by gunfire, but they still felt the pain from the shots.



@shonen said:

Hercule gets taken out by dude with a gun. Isn't Captain America shown to be a bullet timer ?

Thanks for helping me remember. Hmm..well i guess Satan wins.

But Job to be fair to Captain America being taken out by a sniper (your not aware of) from an unknown location does that really take away from caps shown numerous time to be blocking bullets from heavy machine gun fire with his shield.
Post by MrASSH0LE (2,329 posts) See mini bio Level 12
Hail Satan!...well that came out wrong
Post by shonen (846 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@MrASSH0LE said:

Hail Satan!...well that came out wrong

Satan/Hercule is his stage name he uses for fighting. His real name Is actually Mark.

Source: In the U.S. edition of Shonen Jump, it is explained that Hercule is the real name of the character while Mr. Satan was his stage name. This was later contradicted in the Super Exciting Guide: Character Volume, where it was revealed in an interview with Akira Toriyama that Mr. Satan is his stage name and his real name is Mark (マーク, Maaku),[2] a rough anagram of Akuma, which means "Devil" or "Demon" in Japanese, keeping in line with his family's naming scheme. http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Mr._Satan
Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,986 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Cap wins. He is physically superior and more skilled than Hercule. He wins due to having better feats as well.

He wrecked this steel door while injured Satan has never demonstrated strength of this level. Until someone proves Satan is stronger and more skilled he loses badly.

Post by nickzambuto (52 posts) See mini bio Level 8

@SpeedForceSpider said:

Cap wins. He is physically superior and more skilled than Hercule. He wins due to having better feats as well.

He wrecked this steel door while injured Satan has never demonstrated strength of this level. Until someone proves Satan is stronger and more skilled he loses badly.

Cap knocking down that steel door is impressive, but he himself states that it was hardly easy, and he was starting to "buckle".

Hercule pulled four, 10 ton busses all tied together in a row (that's 40 tons) with a smile, and has taken hits from guys like Cell and Kid Buu. The fact that he can punch the series villains without braking his own hands is a testament to his strength.

Hercule was shot in the back in the manga, so he very well may of been capable of dodging had he seen it coming. However, due to lack of feats Cap takes speed. Probably skill too.

Post by SpeedForceSpider (4,986 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@nickzambuto: Getting shot is great and all, but Hercule doesn't have the strength to one shot someone like Steve who has been slammed into boulders by the likes of Namor. Hell, he fought and survived against Namor and the Hulk who would kill anyone in DBZ with brute strength alone. He can jump up a two story building with no problem as well. You are simply either overrating Mark or underrating Cap. You forget Hercule lacks the Military skills/tactics Cap has. The guy beat Super Soldiers with skill alone when he wasn't even peak.

Either way as it stands, Cap wins with feats alone.

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