Master Hades vs Erza scarlet

Topic started by othus12 on Aug. 29, 2013. Last post by Echelon9 1 year ago.
Post by othus12 (6,836 posts) See mini bio Level 13
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Post by Echelon9 (217 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Hades still wins with little effort.

Post by TheBlackDragonz (883 posts) See mini bio Level 14
This was done in canon and he whomped the entire guild ¬¬
Post by Echelon9 (217 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Hades > Lightning Fire Dragon Natsu > New Erza Armor. In fact that armor was likely Mashima's way of letting Erza's power keep pace with the Dragon Slayers.

Post by othus12 (6,836 posts) See mini bio Level 13
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@TheBlackDragonz: you realize this is erza with second origin?

@Echelon9: erza is above natsu. with nakagami armor she can bend the laws of magic. she could even negate grimoire law.

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Post by Echelon9 (217 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@othus12: Proof? Her defeating Minerva doesn't equate to her beating the top dogs of the series. And Natsu was the only one to actually beat a dragon... Erza wasn't even close.

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@Echelon9: she one shotted minerva with her nakagami armor and she was the strongest mage of sabertooth which held the title of the strongest guild for seven years. she can bend the laws of magic with her armor, this is not an opinion, its a fact. one slice with that armor and hades goes down.

btw only dragon slayer magic works on dragons, that's why natsu managed to affect a dragon and erza failed to do so.

Post by Echelon9 (217 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@othus12: Minerva was maybe Erza's level before the timeskip. She's an ant compared to Hades... who continues to remain the strongest human mage in the series not named Zeref or Mavis. You wanna place Erza on their level too? Don't be silly.

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@Echelon9: pretty sure makarov and hades could have killed each other so hades being called the strongest is just silly. he didnt even managed to one shot natsu when gildarts could have done it easily.

Post by Echelon9 (217 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@othus12: Wrong. Hades beat Makarov thoroughly. Even people putting Gildarts on Hades level is retarded considering he effortless defeated The Strongest Team + Wendy and Laxus. And took Natsu new plot attack and was unfazed. You want to place Erza above Gildarts now because of her new untested armor? This thread is akin to saying "Trunks can go SSJ3 in the games; lets put him up against Bills."

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@Echelon9: nope. you saw how the were about to one shot each other with fairy and grimoire law. the only thing that stopped that was that makarov has a good heart.

really i dont see how that comparison had anything to do here. now care to explain how he failed to one shot natsu?

Post by Echelon9 (217 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@othus12: So you're saying new Erza armor > one of the strongest spells in the series... right. Hades didn't one shot Natsu, but he did casually beat him and 6 others of Fairy Tails best, as well as the Makarov, without trying. Then he took LFD Natus's dragon roar without problem... so it was Natsu that failed to one shot Hades... despite Natsu being able to one shot all of his other foes.

And now you want to put Erza of all people OVER the guy that Plotsu COULDN'T beat by himself. Your Erza wank is clearly very strong.

Post by othus12 (6,836 posts) See mini bio Level 13
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@Echelon9: nakagami armor IS one of the strongest spells. until the armor shows a limit to its magic bending skills it is.

you realize LFD isnt that impressive?

besides natsu has always been portrayed as weaker than erza.

and no hades didnt defeated makarov with ease. makarov could have used fairy law and end the match in a stalemate.

Post by Echelon9 (217 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@othus12: Based only on statements. The 3 Great fairy magics are considered the strongest based on statements AND feats. Erza's armor is largely untested. Fairy Law/Sphere/Glitter is not. Suggesting Erza could beat an opponent strong enough to not only counter the fairy magics, but master them as well, with nothing but guesswork is ludicrous.

Make this thread again when Erza uses her armor to cut through Fairy Law.

EDIT: And LOL @ LFDM not being impressive. Natsu's roar overwhelmed the whole island. Basically Hades took a island buster without going down. Natsu is protrayed as being weaker than Erza until he uses Dragon Force.

Post by othus12 (6,836 posts) See mini bio Level 13
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@Echelon9: too bad fairy glitter has been shrugged off by bluenote.

LOL at natsu being an island buster. no ,just no.

besides the armor of nakagami reduced to nothing the power of minerva. again the armor of nakagami was so powerful no one was able to cast it for ten years. you know how many times the great fairy magics have been casted in 10 years? about 5-10 times. what does that tells you?

Post by Echelon9 (217 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@othus12: He shrugged it off because it was being used by an inexperienced wizard. Fairy Law one shotted a Wizard Saint and Fairy Sphere protected the guild from Acnologia.

Perhaps island buster is too high. Mountain buster for sure. Still doesn't change the fact that he's stronger than Erza while in DF mode, and still couldn't take Hades down.

Minerva is nothing next to Hades. She's not even Gildarts or Bluenotes level. The armor hasn't even been tested against opponents feasibly on Wizard Saint level, and you want to put Erza up against someone stronger than them? Again... ludicrous.

Post by othus12 (6,836 posts) See mini bio Level 13
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@Echelon9 said:

@othus12: He shrugged it off because it was being used by an inexperienced wizard. Fairy Law one shotted a Wizard Saint and Fairy Sphere protected the guild from Acnologia.

Perhaps island buster is too high. Mountain buster for sure. Still doesn't change the fact that he's stronger than Erza while in DF mode, and still couldn't take Hades down.

Minerva is nothing next to Hades. She's not even Gildarts or Bluenotes level. The armor hasn't even been tested against opponents feasibly on Wizard Saint level, and you want to put Erza up against someone stronger than them? Again... ludicrous.

so now natsu fought hades in dragon force mode?

minerva not being on wizard saint level? SAY WHAT=?

you think jura could have defeated minerva?> hell no. and he is the one of the top saints.

and what do you mean by not even on gildarts level? gildarts is stronger than everyone here.

the attack that natsu used to defeat laxus did nothing to gildarts. he shrugged it off. may i remember you that a very similar attack defeated hades?

besides gildarts defeated bluenote the moment he got his powers back. it was a huge mismatch.

Hades without his PIS heart isnt really that impressive.

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Post by Echelon9 (217 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@othus12:

so now natsu fought hades in dragon force mode?

minerva not being on wizard saint level? SAY WHAT=?

you think jura could have defeated minerva?> hell no. and he is the one of the top saints.

and what do you mean by not even on gildarts level? gildarts is stronger than everyone here.

the attack that natsu used to defeat laxus did nothing to gildarts. he shrugged it off. may i remember you that a very similar attack defeated hades?

besides gildarts defeated bluenote the moment he got his powers back. it was a huge mismatch.

Hades without his PIS heart isnt really that impressive.

So I just imagined Natsu's body being covered in scales like it always is when he uses DF? That's one of the defining factors of the mode.

Lulz no. Where's the proof? Just because she's a guild ace doesn't make her a wizard saint. The only wizard saint in the tournament was said to have been Jura. The only FT member with the argument of being on that level besides Gildarts is Laxus. As far as anyone can tell - as there's been no statements suggesting otherwise - Erza is still "close" to that level.

I think Jura would have obliterated Minerva. He was said to be Gildarts level... unless you think Minerva is stronger than Gildarts. Besides Minerva even made it clear that she wanted no part of Jura during the free for all, and warned the rest of her comrades to stay out of his way. Like a dumbass Orga didn't listen, and got squashed as a result.

Gildarts most certainly isn't stronger than Hades if that's what you're implying. Based on your logic, along with feats Laxus > Jura = match for Gildarts > Hades... yeah, that's not correct.

Hades was defeated by the combined effort of all the Fairy Tail mages not "just" Natsu. And the only reason they beat him in the first place was because the exceeds destroyed his heart.

More blatant guesswork and accusations. Forgetting that Hades was already monstrously powerful before becoming a dark wizard.

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