Magneto Vs Toph

Topic started by DJSNuva1 on Aug. 14, 2009. Last post by FLCL1 4 years, 12 months ago.
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Post by FLCL1 (3,935 posts) See mini bio Level 7

wat can the second person do 
Post by DJSNuva1 (3,347 posts) See mini bio Level 11
@FLCL1 said:

"wat can the second person do  "


While the Earthbending style used by most Earthbenders is rooted in the Hung Gar style of Kung Fu, Toph's style is uniquely based on Chu Gar Southern Praying Mantis Kung Fu. Though blind, Toph has the unique ability to use Earthbending to "feel" even the most minute vibrations in the earth, be it the presence of trees and buildings or the march of ants several meters away. Through this heightened seismic sense, she can visualize where people are, their relative distance to her, and their physical build. This sense provides her with a distinct advantage when facing other Earthbenders in combat, as they characteristically require contact with the ground and extract rocks from their surroundings. As another result of her blindness, Toph has acquired an acute sense of hearing, enabling her to recognize people by the sound of their voices and hone in on distant conversations. Most significantly, Toph retains the ability to sense when a person is lying based on his or her heartbeat and breathing patterns.

Unfortunately, due to her dependency on vibrations in the earth, Toph is left considerably vulnerable to attacks initiated in midair or opponents who require little constant contact with the ground, such as Aang. Terrain that impairs Toph's ability to sense vibrations also hinders her abilities; she has some difficulty with sand, which constantly shifts and lacks solidity, preventing her from accurately "feeling" her surroundings. Since Toph needs her feet to "feel" the earth in order to perform Earthbending, she becomes truly "blind" if her feet (specifically, the soles of her feet) are badly damaged, as shown when Zuko accidentally burned her feet. As further illustrations of her affinity with the earth, Toph does not know how to swim and expresses an aversion to flying as well as travelling underwater in a submarine.

As of the end of Book Two, Toph is the only known Earthbender with the ability to bend metal. When Toph is seen concentrating in her iron prison, the sadhu known as Guru Pathik explains to Aang in a parallel scene that metal is refined Earth. As a result of her ability to feel the vibrations in earth, Toph is able to locate the impurities (the small fragments of earth) and manipulate them to "bend" the metal portion. Later on, Sokka gives Toph a small piece of meteorite, which she can easily mold into myriad shapes.

Toph is shown to be a very skilled Earthbender at the end of the series. She and Aang are the only two Earthbenders known to use the Badgermoles' Earthsight ability. Toph also becomes proficient in Sandbending, even making an incredibly detailed sand sculpture of Ba Sing Se.    

Post by FLCL1 (3,935 posts) See mini bio Level 7

lol no the dude with the mask
Post by DJSNuva1 (3,347 posts) See mini bio Level 11
@FLCL1 said:

"lol no the dude with the mask "


That's Magneto. I can't believe you don't know what Magneto does. 
 

The full extent of Magneto's power has been greatly expanded upon in the years since he was first introduced. At a basic level, however, Magneto has the ability to manipulate the electromagnetic force to achieve a wide range of effects.

Such effects include the creation of force-fields which can selectively block out matter and energy (while they usually allows sound and visible light to pass through, so Magneto can interact with other characters, they can also shut out sonic blasts and shockwaves, as well as lasers and nuclear explosions). Thanks to this, Magneto is invulnerable to most harm when his personal field is active and can survive in deep space.

He can freely manipulate electromagnetic energy in all frequencies of the spectrum; control and create electromagnetic fields and generate massive EMPs. He has also been depicted using his powers to affect both magnetic and nonmagnetic materials down to the sub-atomic level, although element transmutation strains him significantly and it seems a lot easier for him to manipulate the former. He has levitated objects as heavy as a 30,000 ton nuclear submarine and pulled a large amount of asteroids from their orbits in the solar system's asteroid belt to entirely block sunlight from reaching the earth; the maximum quantity of mass that he can affect at one time is unknown.

He can also channel his magnetic powers through his own body so as to temporarily increase his strength, stamina, and agility to superhuman levels.

He has demonstrated the capacity to warp the space/time continuum and create a wormhole to safely teleport himself and others; this, however, can only be explained by manipulation of gravity and it has been theorized that he can potentially control all 4 forces of matter. Magneto's ability to wield his powers effectively is dependent upon his physical condition; when severely injured, his body is unable to withstand the strain of using his powers.

Magneto has been consistently and frequently depicted as resisting all but the strongest or most unexpected telepathic attacks. Over the years a number of explanations has been proposed for this, such as: anti-telepathy technology wired into his helmet, latent telepathic powers (during the Secret Wars saga), some physical aspect of his electromagnetic powers that can interfere with telepathy (he once used the earth's magnetic field to dampen the powers of all telepaths within his reach), or sheer willpower. In his early appearances, Magneto was also able to engage in astral projection.

In addition to his powers, Magneto is also a genius with competence in various fields of advanced science, especially in genetic manipulation, physics, engineering, and other fields of technology. He has invented advanced weaponry, space stations, and intelligent superhuman lifeforms. Magneto is also a master strategist with extensive combat experience capable of surviving or even winning against what would appear to be a superior force. Finally, he has had extensive combat training, though he prefers to use his powers in combat situations.     

Post by FLCL1 (3,935 posts) See mini bio Level 7

wow i sound really stupid lol i didnt notice because i never saw that suit srry, but who win determines when they are fighting at
Post by DJSNuva1 (3,347 posts) See mini bio Level 11
@FLCL1 said:
"wow i sound really stupid lol i didnt notice because i never saw that suit srry, but who win determines when they are fighting at "

It's the most powerful incarnation of Toph, and the most powerful incarnation of Magneto, battle, say, at The Fire Nation. A city.
Post by FLCL1 (3,935 posts) See mini bio Level 7

WOW i would say magneto has the best infulence on metal and the fire nation is metal city toph however she has two elements to use but im still gonna put my money on magneto
Post by Sinister_Noob (2,033 posts) See mini bio Level 7
toph controls earth, including metal. she wins
Post by DJSNuva1 (3,347 posts) See mini bio Level 11
@Sinister_Noob said:
"toph controls earth, including metal. she wins "

Put logical arguements, set-ups, plausible outcomes, facts, in your posts, or they are moot.
Post by Sinister_Noob (2,033 posts) See mini bio Level 7
@DJSNuva1 said:
" @Sinister_Noob said:
"toph controls earth, including metal. she wins "
Put logical arguements, set-ups, plausible outcomes, facts, in your posts, or they are moot. "
moot?
she's good! youd know if you watched the show
Post by DJSNuva1 (3,347 posts) See mini bio Level 11
@Sinister_Noob said:
" @DJSNuva1 said:
" @Sinister_Noob said:
"toph controls earth, including metal. she wins "
Put logical arguements, set-ups, plausible outcomes, facts, in your posts, or they are moot. "
moot? she's good! youd know if you watched the show "

I did watch the show, probably more than you.
Post by Sinister_Noob (2,033 posts) See mini bio Level 7
@DJSNuva1 said:
" @Sinister_Noob said:
" @DJSNuva1 said:
" @Sinister_Noob said:
"toph controls earth, including metal. she wins "
Put logical arguements, set-ups, plausible outcomes, facts, in your posts, or they are moot. "
moot? she's good! youd know if you watched the show "
I did watch the show, probably more than you. "
doubt it
Post by DJSNuva1 (3,347 posts) See mini bio Level 11
@Sinister_Noob said:
" @DJSNuva1 said:
" @Sinister_Noob said:
" @DJSNuva1 said:
" @Sinister_Noob said:
"toph controls earth, including metal. she wins "
Put logical arguements, set-ups, plausible outcomes, facts, in your posts, or they are moot. "
moot? she's good! youd know if you watched the show "
I did watch the show, probably more than you. "
doubt it "

Then prove me wrong on the reason she wins. Why does she win, Sinister?
Post by FLCL1 (3,935 posts) See mini bio Level 7

magneto wins dude srry he's more experienced and faster
Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19
You two always have the most unique arguments (Sinister Noob and DJSNuva1) now as for the battle Magneto wins even though Toph is a master earthbender it will not aid her here. 
 
Reasons for Magneto's victory: 
 
1. Magneto can channel and or manipulate magnetic fields that exist naturally or artificially. Magneto's powers are for all purposes limitless. Magneto has the ability to maintain control over a planet's entire electromagnetic field and manipulate it accordingly. Magneto has harnessed magnetism to stop armies, raise islands from ocean floors, move mountains, change the courses of rivers, and threaten to devastate the world with apocalyptic floods and continent shaking earthquakes. Magneto has once blanketed the entire globe with self-generated electromagnetic pulse that caused widespread devastation. Moreover he can use his magnetic powers simultaneously if desired.  
 
2. Magneto has the ability to create magnetic force fields which he can quickly expand to protect large areas. His force fields have withstood impacts from various nuclear weapons, volcanic eruptions, the depths of space and attacks from even the most powerful of beings such as Thor, Phoenix and even Galactus. 
 
3. Toph will also not be able to even touch Magneto if he utilizes his ability of flight and he could simply remain airborne and strike her with his multiple long range attacks.  
 
4. Under normal conditions Magneto possesses the strength of a well conditioned athlete. However Magneto can channel vast amounts of his magnetic energy through his body increasing his strength in seconds and he is able to lift far in the excess of 100 tons. One blow from such strength would cause serious damage to Toph. 
 
5. Magneto can control the traces of iron within organic matter granting him full control over his opponents body. He can manipulate the iron induced blood flow to one's brain to induce aneurysms or unconsciousness. 
 
6. Magneto can channel vast amounts of magnetic energy through his body to grant him superhuman durability which is enough to simply shrug off powerful blows from Colossus who currently lifts 100 tons and Namor who lifts far in the excess of 100 tons. 
 
7. Magneto has displayed incredible superhuman speed and has shown to dodge even the fastest attacks of various X-Men. 
 
8. Magneto can manipulate matter to a subatomic level and is not limited to metal due to his magnetic powers and can manipulate several forms of matter to an unknown degree. 
 
9. Magneto can enhance his muscles so that they produce less fatigue poisons during intense physical activity and he is able to exert himself physically for several days before the build up of fatigue toxins in his blood starts to impair him.  
 
10. Magneto is able to manipulate any form of energy related or from the electromagnetic spectrum e.g he can absorb electrical energy and infrared radiation and unleash them as energy blasts and more.  
 
Magneto wins in a ridiculous curbstomp.
Post by FLCL1 (3,935 posts) See mini bio Level 7

couldnt have said it any better (literally lol)
Post by DJSNuva1 (3,347 posts) See mini bio Level 11
@Newdeath said:
"You two always have the most unique arguments (Sinister Noob and DJSNuva1) now as for the battle Magneto wins even though Toph is a master earthbender it will not aid her here.  Reasons for Magneto's victory:  1. Magneto can channel and or manipulate magnetic fields that exist naturally or artificially. Magneto's powers are for all purposes limitless. Magneto has the ability to maintain control over a planet's entire electromagnetic field and manipulate it accordingly. Magneto has harnessed magnetism to stop armies, raise islands from ocean floors, move mountains, change the courses of rivers, and threaten to devastate the world with apocalyptic floods and continent shaking earthquakes. Magneto has once blanketed the entire globe with self-generated electromagnetic pulse that caused widespread devastation. Moreover he can use his magnetic powers simultaneously if desired.   2. Magneto has the ability to create magnetic force fields which he can quickly expand to protect large areas. His force fields have withstood impacts from various nuclear weapons, volcanic eruptions, the depths of space and attacks from even the most powerful of beings such as Thor, Phoenix and even Galactus.  3. Toph will also not be able to even touch Magneto if he utilizes his ability of flight and he could simply remain airborne and strike her with his multiple long range attacks.   4. Under normal conditions Magneto possesses the strength of a well conditioned athlete. However Magneto can channel vast amounts of his magnetic energy through his body increasing his strength in seconds and he is able to lift far in the excess of 100 tons. One blow from such strength would cause serious damage to Toph.  5. Magneto can control the traces of iron within organic matter granting him full control over his opponents body. He can manipulate the iron induced blood flow to one's brain to induce aneurysms or unconsciousness.  6. Magneto can channel vast amounts of magnetic energy through his body to grant him superhuman durability which is enough to simply shrug off powerful blows from Colossus who currently lifts 100 tons and Namor who lifts far in the excess of 100 tons.  7. Magneto has displayed incredible superhuman speed and has shown to dodge even the fastest attacks of various X-Men.  8. Magneto can manipulate matter to a subatomic level and is not limited to metal due to his magnetic powers and can manipulate several forms of matter to an unknown degree.  9. Magneto can enhance his muscles so that they produce less fatigue poisons during intense physical activity and he is able to exert himself physically for several days before the build up of fatigue toxins in his blood starts to impair him.   10. Magneto is able to manipulate any form of energy related or from the electromagnetic spectrum e.g he can absorb electrical energy and infrared radiation and unleash them as energy blasts and more.  "

Lol, we do have some pretty wierd arguements don't we? 
Your arguement is rock-solid. Considering that no attack Toph has can harm Magneto, and Magneto's attacks are way more powerful, he's got to win this.
Post by FLCL1 (3,935 posts) See mini bio Level 7

newdeath no how to debate(in his own way :P)lol
Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19
@DJSNuva1 said:
" @Newdeath said:
"You two always have the most unique arguments (Sinister Noob and DJSNuva1) now as for the battle Magneto wins even though Toph is a master earthbender it will not aid her here.  Reasons for Magneto's victory:  1. Magneto can channel and or manipulate magnetic fields that exist naturally or artificially. Magneto's powers are for all purposes limitless. Magneto has the ability to maintain control over a planet's entire electromagnetic field and manipulate it accordingly. Magneto has harnessed magnetism to stop armies, raise islands from ocean floors, move mountains, change the courses of rivers, and threaten to devastate the world with apocalyptic floods and continent shaking earthquakes. Magneto has once blanketed the entire globe with self-generated electromagnetic pulse that caused widespread devastation. Moreover he can use his magnetic powers simultaneously if desired.   2. Magneto has the ability to create magnetic force fields which he can quickly expand to protect large areas. His force fields have withstood impacts from various nuclear weapons, volcanic eruptions, the depths of space and attacks from even the most powerful of beings such as Thor, Phoenix and even Galactus.  3. Toph will also not be able to even touch Magneto if he utilizes his ability of flight and he could simply remain airborne and strike her with his multiple long range attacks.   4. Under normal conditions Magneto possesses the strength of a well conditioned athlete. However Magneto can channel vast amounts of his magnetic energy through his body increasing his strength in seconds and he is able to lift far in the excess of 100 tons. One blow from such strength would cause serious damage to Toph.  5. Magneto can control the traces of iron within organic matter granting him full control over his opponents body. He can manipulate the iron induced blood flow to one's brain to induce aneurysms or unconsciousness.  6. Magneto can channel vast amounts of magnetic energy through his body to grant him superhuman durability which is enough to simply shrug off powerful blows from Colossus who currently lifts 100 tons and Namor who lifts far in the excess of 100 tons.  7. Magneto has displayed incredible superhuman speed and has shown to dodge even the fastest attacks of various X-Men.  8. Magneto can manipulate matter to a subatomic level and is not limited to metal due to his magnetic powers and can manipulate several forms of matter to an unknown degree.  9. Magneto can enhance his muscles so that they produce less fatigue poisons during intense physical activity and he is able to exert himself physically for several days before the build up of fatigue toxins in his blood starts to impair him.   10. Magneto is able to manipulate any form of energy related or from the electromagnetic spectrum e.g he can absorb electrical energy and infrared radiation and unleash them as energy blasts and more.  "
Lol, we do have some pretty wierd arguements don't we? Your arguement is rock-solid. Considering that no attack Toph has can harm Magneto, and Magneto's attacks are way more powerful, he's got to win this. "
Indeed and thank you. It is amusing watching you two argue and later witnessing the victor of the argument lol. 
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