Madara Vs Kenpachi and Byakuya

Topic started by nishi99 on Aug. 24, 2013. Last post by 321zigzag1 1 year, 1 month ago.
Post by nishi99 (1,783 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Vs

Round One Madara has his current powers.

Round Two Madara has EMS and Kyuubi.

In Character

No Prep

No Edo

Setting Karakura Town

Post by ImDictatorBowDown (2,111 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Scenario one: Madara via Perfect Susanoo

Scenario two: Madara via Bijuu bombs and mountain level attacks

Post by taichokage (14,172 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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Actually no way to know current Kenny's power. But based on hype I think this could go either way. However based on his older recent self and Byakuya, Madara does win.
Post by 5th (1,298 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Madara could poison the air via Wood Release or just silence the two with the use of his Susano'o army

And for an overkill, he'd use Perfect Susano'o.

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Post by xlab3000 (1,398 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@ImDictatorBowDown said:

Scenario one: Madara via Perfect Susanoo

Scenario two: Madara via Bijuu bombs and mountain level attacks

Post by Dream (7,900 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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Madara's likely to win both scenarios.

Post by othus12 (7,298 posts) See mini bio Level 13

madara wins

katon: gouka mekakyuu

Post by taichokage (14,172 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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I still say its way too early. Zaraki is now one of the 5 war potentials, considered by Bach to be the 5 biggest threats in the world to his organization. Zaraki just surpassed the strongest captain before even learning the name of his zanpakutou. The Central 46 said that he alone threatens the safety of Soul Society and could single handedly cause a rebellion. And Yamamoto stopped his training after one day due to fear of his potential. And then we have his fellow potential Ichigo said to potentially be too powerful to exist in the Human world. I think that Zaraki is stronger than Madara at this point but again his current self has no feats which is why it's too early to call.
Post by Whats_out_the_bag (1,531 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Bring this thread up once we see Kenpachi at his peak.

Post by TheNeutralOne (1,016 posts) See mini bio Level 10

If madara doesn't start in perfect susano'o kenpachi can 1 shot him via speed blitz~

If you wanna argue that you gotta first show speed feats for madara who was surprised by a basic level technique and stabbed in the back with a regular kunai at no surprising speed whatsoever~

If madara is edo then meh~

Post by SpeedForceSpider (5,037 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@othus12 said:

madara wins

katon: gouka mekakyuu

Post by taichokage (14,172 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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Still too early. When we see Zaraki's current power this may or may not even be a fight whether he's stronger or weaker.
Post by 321zigzag1 (650 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@TheNeutralOne said:

If madara doesn't start in perfect susano'o kenpachi can 1 shot him via speed blitz~

If you wanna argue that you gotta first show speed feats for madara who was surprised by a basic level technique and stabbed in the back with a regular kunai at no surprising speed whatsoever~

If madara is edo then meh~

Using substitution feat is not a good way to gauge speed feats. Its pretty obvious considering how substitution kishi logic works.

Post by TheNeutralOne (1,016 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@321zigzag1:

There was a clone, madara hit it, it went poof then he was stabbed in the back. Neither of them were moving at any impressive speeds at the time of this occurence so it would be ridiculous to say hashirama was moving at ftl speeds so madara couldn't possibly react.

Kenpachi nor anyone in bleach need current feats to prove they are faster and more durable than anybody in naruto. The only durability hashirama has is perfect susano'o and he isn't edo so he can't hold it forever where as kenpachi and byakuya can fly and have outrageous stamina.

If madara doesn't start in perfect susano'o he has no speed feat on par with bleach and kenpachi will easily 1 shot him.

Post by taichokage (14,172 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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Well, the Jinchuuriki are pretty durable, at least to blunt damage, moreso than most any Bleach character. However I completely agree that on an average basis Naruto characters are the least physically adept in most areas including durability. It even stems into their top tiers. However they usually have hax and techniques to replace their weaknesses.
Post by 321zigzag1 (650 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@TheNeutralOne said:

@321zigzag1:

There was a clone, madara hit it, it went poof then he was stabbed in the back. Neither of them were moving at any impressive speeds at the time of this occurence so it would be ridiculous to say hashirama was moving at ftl speeds so madara couldn't possibly react.

Its more like this. A Clone, Madara was distracted and Hashirama "used Kishimoto logic of stealth action" stab. That's how all substitution feats work in general.

Its more of a stealth feat than speed. Does this mean substitution can't be evaded? No.

@TheNeutralOne

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@321zigzag1:

Kenpachi nor anyone in bleach need current feats to prove they are faster and more durable than anybody in naruto. The only durability hashirama has is perfect susano'o and he isn't edo so he can't hold it forever where as kenpachi and byakuya can fly and have outrageous stamina.

Right because we all know Kenpachi has displayed speed close to BM Naruto or even Juubito. Unless you are seriously on a major leap of faith scaling of Flash steps which are more visual "Wow" tactic by the author.

Or its the other logic like gamefaqs that Kishimoto inconsistencies negate all Naruto speed feats and say bijuu balls aren't even heavy.

Whatever it is. Lets go by case by case basis.

This is going back to Madara's reaction feat. We know hypersonic but that's all.

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