Lucifer and Michael ( Supernatural) vs Goku

Topic started by peruano99A on June 8, 2012. Last post by tronboy 1 year, 3 months ago.
Post by peruano99A (492 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Stated they would roast the earth if they fought.

A lower angel searched a city in seconds.

True form is incorporeal.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,187 posts) See mini bio Level 10

From what I know of Supernatural's heavy hitters, they are powerful but not at the level of higher DBZ characters.

Having super speed and "roasting the earth" isn't that big a deal in the face of someone who can beat planet-busters with little effort.

I would have thought it would be fairer if we were using saiyan saga Goku, or failing that Goku when he first arrived on Namek. Anything after that and this is a stomp from what I've seen of Supernatural.

Post by DBZ_universe (15,734 posts) See mini bio Level 17

Goku wins.... Frieaza says he can destroy Namek with ease and Namek is 10X of earth... Now Goku is way stronger and could do the same with no little effort... so yeah Goku wins here... roasting the earth is nothing special compare to Goku..

Post by Whats_out_the_bag (1,462 posts) See mini bio Level 10

this is a rape thread goku dies how can goku fight them when they can't die by human means blowing up a planet isn't going to hurt god nor an angel how can it hurt them. any ways i don't think goku would be able to move if they just freeze him they can also take over his body or kill him with a snap of there finger.

They don't need to blow up planets to show us that have more powerful.

So i have one last important thing to say there both immortal's and goku can die just by them crushing his soul or what ever these beings want to do.

Post by DBZ_universe (15,734 posts) See mini bio Level 17

@Whats_out_the_bag: are you saying Goku is a human?? anyways goku has killed a being that was said that it couldn't die (Buu) also Goku uses IT and blows up the planet and wins..

Post by Whats_out_the_bag (1,462 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@DBZ_universe:

Never said he was human he still has a soul and still dbz seems to understand that you can't kill the dead nor immortals. Buu has regeneration luchifer and michael can't die by human means nor alien means as for goku. But all goku has is endurance other than that he's human as he can reproduce like humans, he can bleed like human,etc etc he even needs to eat/sleep remember in Dragon ball we all thought Goku was human he was just super strong and had high endurance even now he only has high endurance. He's not in SSJ from the get go he's in base form where his body can be riped in pieces..

Satin is easily faster if not goku can't hurt him and no this isn't like buu. Buu was able to regenerate thats why he couldn't die as lucifer won't be harmed by these attacks. I do think you understand how blowing up the planet wouldn't kill them there above a planet. Yes when you think of devil you think of him as below earth or even heaven above earth but god didn't just create earth he would of created everything meaning heaven is above everything and hell is below everything placing these gues on another level then just killing a few.

heres a nice clip of lucifer killing some gods who are very powerful but aren't really nothing to him. Oh yea who cares if goku blows up the planet when they can teleport somewhere else any way. As you will see in that clip he says this is HIS planet mainly showing how he doesn't want anything to happen to it but just wants the humans to die he wants to be king of it. again teleporting can save them just like IT so everything that was stated doesn't help goku at all. Just makes him look like a coward running away.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3Ks59XGThg

Post by DBZ_universe (15,734 posts) See mini bio Level 17

@Whats_out_the_bag: Kid Buu>>>Lucifer...

also Genkidama is able to kill ANYTHING that isn't pure... no matter what in other words if Lucifer touches the Genkidama he is erased from existence... so yes he can die..

Gods can die.. West, South, North Kaioshins were killed by buu and they have better feats... such as traveling in the universe in 1 second, summoning objects from thin air, able to look anywhere in the universe... same with Grand Kaio... and Goku is more powerful than any of em..

Also they didn't created anything... it was the Big Bang... (I don't believe in any gods creating the universe)

Vegeta can also kill someone with out touching them... look he blew up Cui from the inside... if Vegeta can do this what would a Bloodlusted Goku do??

Also Saiyans cannot be controlled an Example to this is Vegeta, He only accepted Babidi's control because of the power up... but he had total control all the time... or Broly.. he couldn't even be restrained fully.. one that is stronger than the other one can over power mind control... another Example is Professor Xavier trying to control the Hulk but FAILED. trying to control someone like Goku is useless.

Post by Anzendenai (413 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Lucy summons death and orders him to kill em

Those two stomp they are immortal RW with magic and psychokinesis on their side

Also they can affect souls of people have bunch of artefacts and really Lucy could give Goku Cancer or something like that XD

Post by DBZ_universe (15,734 posts) See mini bio Level 17

@Anzendenai said:

Lucy summons death and orders him to kill em

Those two stomp they are immortal RW with magic and psychokinesis on their side

Also they can affect souls of people have bunch of artefacts and really Lucy could give Goku Cancer or something like that XD

And Goku could give him the Genkidama thus erasing Lucifer from existence even if he is "immortal"....

Post by Anzendenai (413 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@DBZ_universe: Also they could manipulate time

Here is how i see it

Give him some deadly sickness teleport to heaven/hell and wait

Also what about RW?

And really we haven't seen them dying

And i doubt Goku could get rid of em

Heaven and hell both are different dimensions same as Purgatory

Post by DBZ_universe (15,734 posts) See mini bio Level 17

@Anzendenai: Lucifer can die if he touches the Genkidama... Genkidama kills anything that isn't pure... it has even killed Gods such as Yi Xing Long (Omega Shenlong)... King Yemma is in charge of Heaven and Hell and also The Supreme Kaioshin is at a higher rank yet Goku is more powerful than him... a god of the Universe.. So yeah Goku

Goku>>>>Kibitoshin(A god of the universe)>>gods of earth...

Post by Anzendenai (413 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@DBZ_universe: Michael ressurects him

Also what about their reality warp

He wouldn't even know where to hit

Kaioshin was weak so no doubt that he is a god

Post by DBZ_universe (15,734 posts) See mini bio Level 17

@Anzendenai: How is a Kaioshin weak?? He is thousands of times stronger than a guy that could blow up a planet with his finger (Frieza)... even he stated that he could wipe out a civilization with a single breath... he can travel anywhere in the universe in less than a second. he is a being that is above Heaven and Hell.. not even a Holy god is allowed to even step on his planet.. Elder Kaioshin is even more impressive. Goku also defeated a reality warper (Janemba) who in his first form was stated that it had the power to destroy the Universe, and on top of that Janemba made the Universe his kingdom and open the portals between the living world and the dead.... by side effect of his birth..

Post by SilverGalford (2,951 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@DBZ_universe said:

@Anzendenai: Lucifer can die if he touches the Genkidama... Genkidama kills anything that isn't pure... it has even killed Gods such as Yi Xing Long (Omega Shenlong)... King Yemma is in charge of Heaven and Hell and also The Supreme Kaioshin is at a higher rank yet Goku is more powerful than him... a god of the Universe.. So yeah Goku

Goku>>>>Kibitoshin(A god of the universe)>>gods of earth...

Those dbzverse Gods suck so bad because punches can kill them. to kill luci you need more than punches and ki power.

Lucifer is weak to the colt and an archangel blade . since Goku doesn't have those powers and weapons, he gets raped.

Genkidama kills anything that isn't pure

by this logic , Mandrakk can be killed by the Genkidama LOL! . buu who was evil and weaker than luci was able to hold off the Genkidama for some minutes. it was a matter of who was more powerful .

1) Goku needs time to gather ki , by the time Goku rises his arms , he gets raped by Lucifer.

2) as i said , Buu was able to hold off the genkidama for some minutes . since Lucifer is more powerful than Buu and Goku together , he wins and rapes Goku with ease.

Post by DBZ_universe (15,734 posts) See mini bio Level 17

@SilverGalford said:

@DBZ_universe said:

@Anzendenai: Lucifer can die if he touches the Genkidama... Genkidama kills anything that isn't pure... it has even killed Gods such as Yi Xing Long (Omega Shenlong)... King Yemma is in charge of Heaven and Hell and also The Supreme Kaioshin is at a higher rank yet Goku is more powerful than him... a god of the Universe.. So yeah Goku

Goku>>>>Kibitoshin(A god of the universe)>>gods of earth...

Those dbzverse Gods suck so bad because punches can kill them. to kill luci you need more than punches and ki power.

Lucifer is weak to the colt and an archangel blade . since Goku doesn't have those powers and weapons, he gets raped.

Yes they are not impressive.. but still powerful...

Also Goku does have the Genkidama... Genkidama can kill anything that isn't pure. so of Lucifer touches it he dies..

Post by Whats_out_the_bag (1,462 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@DBZ_universe:Now your starting to sound stupid were any of them immortals to the point were blowing them up wouldn't kill them?

Michael is pure he still kills Goku by himself if he wanted too.

Goku isn't immortal.

YEAH that attack might kill lucifer yet how much energy does it take to kill someone of his level of evil. By the time he does get the right amount both of them snap there fingers and have his body being ripped in half.

You say Saiyans can't be controlled well they can they won't use mind control they will use soul control. Mind control is something they really can't do they can give goku illusions but they can't mind control. They can take over his body then kill him but really how can GOKU win he doesn't have the power. you can bring up Genkidama

but doesn't kill Michael.

One little quick thing i've already stated there above everything not just earth you really lack information to even debate cause goku doesn't have the power to kill something that can't be killed.

DO YOU NOT GET THAT THERE ON THE SAME LEVEL AS DEATH (Both needing objects to be killed)

Post by DBZ_universe (15,734 posts) See mini bio Level 17

@Whats_out_the_bag: I do get your point... I agree that Genkidama wont kill Micheal but it will kill Lucifer... also how are they gonna take over Goku's soul if by the time they are gonna think about it Goku uses IT and starts beating them or just a IT kamekameha.. and I doubt their reaction speed is FTL.. right? Also Goku can read the foes moves.. so I got that covered.

Janemba is a being that is also above death yet he got killed...

Post by Haofan123 (3,675 posts) See mini bio Level 13

Ive watched a bit of supernatural recently and abslutely nothing those two have done remotely compare to what goku is capable of. Unless somone posts feats for them im afraid i will have to give it to goku until then

Post by SilverGalford (2,951 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@DBZ_universe said:

@SilverGalford said:

@DBZ_universe said:

@Anzendenai: Lucifer can die if he touches the Genkidama... Genkidama kills anything that isn't pure... it has even killed Gods such as Yi Xing Long (Omega Shenlong)... King Yemma is in charge of Heaven and Hell and also The Supreme Kaioshin is at a higher rank yet Goku is more powerful than him... a god of the Universe.. So yeah Goku

Goku>>>>Kibitoshin(A god of the universe)>>gods of earth...

Those dbzverse Gods suck so bad because punches can kill them. to kill luci you need more than punches and ki power.

Lucifer is weak to the colt and an archangel blade . since Goku doesn't have those powers and weapons, he gets raped.

Yes they are not impressive.. but still powerful...

Also Goku does have the Genkidama... Genkidama can kill anything that isn't pure. so of Lucifer touches it he dies..

1) Luci can't die

2)Buu ,who is weaker than Luci , held off the Genkidama for some minutes .

it's a matter of power , and luci is stronger than Goku and Buu together.

, so it doesn't matter if Genkidama kills something impure . Lucifer can overcome that.

Post by DBZ_universe (15,734 posts) See mini bio Level 17

@SilverGalford said:

@DBZ_universe said:

@SilverGalford said:

@DBZ_universe said:

@Anzendenai: Lucifer can die if he touches the Genkidama... Genkidama kills anything that isn't pure... it has even killed Gods such as Yi Xing Long (Omega Shenlong)... King Yemma is in charge of Heaven and Hell and also The Supreme Kaioshin is at a higher rank yet Goku is more powerful than him... a god of the Universe.. So yeah Goku

Goku>>>>Kibitoshin(A god of the universe)>>gods of earth...

Those dbzverse Gods suck so bad because punches can kill them. to kill luci you need more than punches and ki power.

Lucifer is weak to the colt and an archangel blade . since Goku doesn't have those powers and weapons, he gets raped.

Yes they are not impressive.. but still powerful...

Also Goku does have the Genkidama... Genkidama can kill anything that isn't pure. so of Lucifer touches it he dies..

1) Luci can't die

2)Buu ,who is weaker than Luci , held off the Genkidama for some minutes .

it's a matter of power , and luci is stronger than Goku and Buu together.

, so it doesn't matter if Genkidama kills something impure . Lucifer can overcome that.

True Buu did held the Genkidama for a while... but we gotta take note that Goku had no energy left as well... when he got it back Genkidama erased Buu... I doubt Lucifer can overcome it...

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