Jedi vs Gotei 13

Topic started by tronboy on March 7, 2013. Last post by ChromeDisaster 1 year, 4 months ago.
Post by tronboy (425 posts) See mini bio Level 9
Level 9

all comic feats

every jedi of anakin time like

mace windu

plo koon

yoda

obi wan kenobi

anakin

kit fisto

and all the rest of the jedi in the clone wars. Comic feats are included

PLEASE EXPLAIN YOUR ANWSER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

REMEMBER JEDI HAVE TK AND HAVE FORCE CHOKE EU FEATS INCLUDED

bleach: THEY CAN BE SEEN

THEY CAN USE BANKAI NOW

Post by Haofan123 (3,675 posts) See mini bio Level 13

so you are giving the jedi thier comic feats and nerfing the captains? No.Just, no

Post by ALMIGHTY (357 posts) See mini bio Level 8

NO BANKAI ???? REALLY ???

Post by Stingerrain (357 posts) See mini bio Level 9

In before lock.

All I gotta say.

Post by Destinyheroknight (10,171 posts) See mini bio Level 21

Aizen should be able to use his Zanpakuto to have the Jedi kill each other

Post by ReiKai (3,463 posts) See mini bio Level 9
Kenpachi puts two hands on his sword. Everyone in the room dies.
Post by tronboy (425 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@Destinyheroknight: BTW jedi have mind tricks too

Post by SMXLR8 (6,895 posts) See mini bio Level 16

in before lock

Post by Destinyheroknight (10,171 posts) See mini bio Level 21

@tronboy:

Aizen is better :)

Post by MarioRedfield (1,728 posts) See mini bio Level 11

If it's the EU stuff then they win. If only movie stuff then I don't know

Post by UltimateHero0406 (5,030 posts) See mini bio Level 16

Whaaaaaat? Ah well,

I still say Yamamoto, Aizen, Tousen, Soi Fon, Kyouraku, and Kenpachi could take this.

Post by MarioRedfield (1,728 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Don't the Jedi apparently have planet busting/light speed reaction feats or something? Or is that just Luke?

Because if that and if you depower the faux dieux, they're just so severely outmatched they don't really stand a chance.

Post by ReliusClover (784 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@MarioRedfield: Most do via precog and shit, or at least massively hypersonic.

And yeah the whole Bleach verse doesn't stand a chance here, let alone these guys.

Post by SamJaz (11,612 posts) See mini bio Level 19

sheer numbers alone, Jedi win. Even then, to beat jedi's, you need to stab them in the back while pretending to be their allies. Aizen never sent out an Order 66, and if he did, and the arrancar stormed soul society at the point of Aizen's escape? Bleach over man. Luffy's the main character now.

Because nothing trumps jedi. Except Gray Nights. Which are basically Space Marine Jedi's in Warhammer 40,000. So the only thing capable of beting Jedi's on level playing field are super-Jedi.

Ahem, back to reality. Jedi win Soul Society. Hands down.

Post by Whats_out_the_bag (1,226 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Aizen's useless here as his power doesn't control the force. Jedi's rape.

Jedi's have better fighting styles,precog,and mind rape.

Post by ReiKai (3,463 posts) See mini bio Level 9
@MarioRedfield said:

Don't the Jedi apparently have planet busting/light speed reaction feats or something? Or is that just Luke?

They don't. And Luke doesn't either. It's just fanboy BS rants. At best Luke is super-sonic. None of the other Jedi even get much better than sub-sonic.
 
@Whats_out_the_bag said:

Aizen's useless here as his power doesn't control the force. Jedi's rape.

Jedi's have better fighting styles,precog,and mind rape.

If the Jedi so much as see Aizen's zanpakutou release, they're screwed. Period. Because he has absolute control over All of their senses. And they don't have mind rape, they can only Trick weak-minded people. Which doesn't work on astral beings that've been around for at least several centuries, or over a thousand years like Yamamoto.
 
Kenpachi alone can one shot them all.
Post by Whats_out_the_bag (1,226 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@ReiKai:

If the Jedi so much as see Aizen's zanpakutou release, they're screwed.

Why? Oh because he's going to cover up their senses, in which his Zanpakutou is pretty much useless when fighting a jedi as they don't need their natural senses to fight seeing how they can still take them with their eyes closed. Not even trying to infer they are going to just fight with their eyes closed.

Because he has absolute control over All of their senses.

Oh thats nice.

So he controls their senses, but they can still use the force and sense him. He only controls 5 fucking senses not All. I think you might want to go back and read up on aizen.

And they don't have mind rape, they can only Trick weak-minded people.

Force fear is a technique where a force user could strike directly at the deepest parts of the target's mind, causing an uncontrollable shaking fear that would wreak havoc with the target's capabilities.

Which doesn't work on astral beings that've been around for at least several centuries, or over a thousand years like Yamamoto.

So your logic is age with no type of training or experience with mind raping means you can now protect your self from something like that. Better yet instead of me telling you how about you read a wiki or read up some of the comics. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mind_trick

Kenpachi alone can one shot them all.

No. just no.

He's the first to get mind raped.

Everyone gets cut up by light sabers.

Post by UltimateHero0406 (5,030 posts) See mini bio Level 16

@ReiKai: actually aizen can only control the basic 5 senses. Yama used his SE see through aizens trolling

Post by ReiKai (3,463 posts) See mini bio Level 9
@UltimateHero0406 said:

@ReiKai: actually aizen can only control the basic 5 senses. Yama used his SE see through aizens trolling

It worked on their reiatsu sense as well, aka 6th sense. Otherwise any one of the Captains and Lieutenants would've been able to tell they were getting screwed over. Only Unohana seemed to get the feeling that something wasn't right during the Seireitei Arc when Aizen had been "murdered". Aizen had effectively killed their body of government and been controlling everything without anyone realizing it. Including Yamamoto. He had to specifically prepare himself to face Aizen later on.@Whats_out_the_bag said: 
 
@Whats_out_the_bag

Why? Oh because he's going to cover up their senses, in which his Zanpakutou is pretty much useless when fighting a jedi as they don't need their natural senses to fight seeing how they can still take them with their eyes closed. Not even trying to infer they are going to just fight with their eyes closed.

Given Jedi rely 90% on their Physical senses, yes they'd be utterly screwed. And as it was shown to even control a Shinigami's reiatsu sense, Rule of Equivalency follows. Given Jedi have been killed by far less than this just proves how screwed they are.
 

Oh thats nice.

So he controls their senses, but they can still use the force and sense him. He only controls 5 fucking senses not All. I think you might want to go back and read up on aizen.

As stated, Rule of Equivalency. It affected their Reiatsu sense, aka 6th sense. Believing a Jedi's sense through the Force is auto-defense is pure folly and ridiculous since Non-Force Users have all managed to Trick and Kill Jedi with little more than Distraction and Misdirection.
 

Force fear is a technique where a force user could strike directly at the deepest parts of the target's mind, causing an uncontrollable shaking fear that would wreak havoc with the target's capabilities.

An ability the Prequal Jedi Order don't possess and have never shown to use. Nvm Kenpachi releases the same effect with just his Bloodlust and is not a technique.
 

So your logic is age with no type of training or experience with mind raping means you can now protect your self from something like that. Better yet instead of me telling you how about you read a wiki or read up some of the comics.

Fat, bloated slugs can brush off their mental abilities and you believe several hundred year old astral life forms who learn a form of magic (Kido) are suddenly going to wet themselves in the face of a group of Jedi who aren't even proficient in the use of mental attacks, let alone in the face of peoples whose very presence has been enough to crush the wills of others. And in fact, Reiatsu Crush wasn't removed by the op. Which basically means Kenpachi can stand there and have all the Jedi wonder what the F*@% they're gonna do when they can't even move.
 

He's the first to get mind raped.

Everyone gets cut up by light sabers.

That's a laugh. The one guy that none of this shit has ever worked on, including Tousen's Bankai, is going to lose out to a bunch of pitiful Jedi who aren't even sub-sonic speed and are going to hurt him with the equivalent of a glowstick in comparison to the auto-shield Kenpachi generates subconsciously due to his own massive reaitsu. Given that zanpakutou are, in fact, weapons created through their owners own reiatsu in the form of reishi (spirit particles), which makes them the equivalent of energy or magic weapons, which all have blocked and deflected lightsabers rather easily.
 
They're going to strike at Kenpachi. Their lightsabers will stop cold against his skin. He's going to look at them with a bored expression and go; "This really all you people can do?" before sighing and killing all of them.
Post by CerusSerenade (2,464 posts) See mini bio Level 10

What stops a bloodlusted Mace Windu from crushing their organs/heads with the force alone?

The fact that Windu casually deflects laser blasts without even looking at them leads us to believe that he's massively hypersonic at least.

And Reikai there's no point in trying to play Devil's Advocate, EU feats are included which basically says that mindfuckery is on a planetary level. Luke mindfucked a whole planet of psychics simultaneously and can make illusions which fool technology.

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