@othus12: They are in Character, so that isn't happening.
I still say Spirit bomb wins
those guys are at most country level with lightspeed and some energy stealing techniques.
vegeta alone is about 2 times the speed of light and with multi planet level energies along with planet level punches.
they would lose against sani and toriko let alone the saiyans.
Othus12 defending DBZ and actually doing a good job...I am so proud.
Anyway I'm going with Goku and Vegeta here, when all the opposition have is 'ZOMG NLF HAX!!! DEY SOLOW!!!' I'm not convinced.
Issei's Sacred Gear is the Boosted Gear, one of the 13 Longinus where one of the Heavenly Dragons, Ddraig, the Red Dragon Emperor, resides. It is said to have the power to kill a God when fully mastered. His Sacred Gear ability is to double his power every 10 seconds without limit, and his sub-ability can transfer the multiplied power to a being or object, which makes him great in terms of support.
Vali is a powerful fighter who wields the Longinus "Divine Dividing", which holds the spirit of the Vanishing Dragon, the White Dragon Emperor, Albion. Divine Dividing works in the opposite way of Issei's Boosted Gear, in which it halves the opponent's power after coming into contact with them. Vali can also use the opponent's drained power and add it to himself, which contributed to the defeat of the Fallen Angel Kokabiel during his introductory chapter.
He also has a Balance Breaker armor called Divine Dividing Scale Mail, which is similar to Issei's Scale Mail aside from it being white and having Dragon wings. The Divine Dividing also has the ability to halve the size of objects and living beings through the use of its "Half Dimension".
In Volume 12, Vali gains a new form called the Empireo Juggernaut Overdrive (白銀の極覇龍(エンピレオ・ジャガーノート・オーバードライブ Enpireo Jagānōto Ōbādoraibu), which changes the color of his armor to silver. Like Issei's Cardinal Crimson Promotion, it does not consume his lifespan. In this state, Vali can use an enhanced version of Half Dimension called "Compression Divider", which halves a specific target constantly until they vanish from existence.
Yeah I messed up big time with these two abilities combined both Goku and Vegeta can't win at all.
@LHWKnight: @Shadowchaos: @Son_Wukong: @GeneralVan: @othus12 :
Time to throw some facts. Portaining to the Balance Breakers
Issei can double whenever he wants about 25 double in standard Balance Break Boost. Without boost e's atleast continent buster. Since Goku and Vegeta jst loves to fight people a full power, they'd allow Issei to go True Queen which is MFTL, Solar System Buster, and Solar System durabillity without boost.
Vali can divide anything that's thrown at him, in fact he can divide thee energy within Goku and Vegeta. His Half Dimension would pretty much half the DBZ team movements. Also about the dividing super powered person thing by Othus12. Vali in Empiro Juggernaut Overdrive practically stomped Pluto in one shot. He used Compression Divider on Pluto the Ultimate Class Grim Reaper who are said to be stronger than Ultimate Class Devils, who are Planet Busters. He dividng Pluto out of exisence.
They are ferred to as Super Devils by the way who are said to be able to kill even the strongest gods.
About destroying the planet, thay won't work Devils don'tneed air and would shrug off such an explosion.
@Shadowchaos: Bills pissed him off inttentionally
Even then words would'be needed. Issei is used to dealing with battle freaks. So he'd know what to say to convnce Vegeta to allow them to power up. Vegeta like to toy with his foes first when he thinks he's supwrior, lke he did with Cell.
@Galenbeta: You are right about that, Vegeta and Goku can sense the power in them and would allow them to get stronger until Issei uses True Queen and start combining it with Half Dimension.
Once Half Dimension is activated, no matter how powerful Goku and Vegeta are, they will start to loose power and Vali will begin to gain that power.
And that is the Anime version as well excluding the True Queen piece.
Now that i think of it LHW is right
Their transfromations are instantaneous, i so used to reading about Issei's coutdown that i forgot he eleminates the count down completely and transfroms in an instnat. Vali has always been automatic transformations