@Theorder14: Can't really run a debate on guesses and opinions...
As of now she's low supersonic at best.
Not that any of that actually changes the outcome of the fight, Shirou wins either way.
Statements over feats? Where the hell did you get that one form?
And as said i am basing my argument on what you have provided me. But no one posted a single noteworthy feat so...
Some calcs are nuts and can be dismissed using logic alone without even looking and the numbers and others are waterproof no matter how you do it.
@Fehafare: Meant other way around feats over statements X.X.
ofc there's some great debaters with great calcs like cadence,floopay,nick etc but there's lots of other users who exaggerate the feats.
anyway, tis confusing. maybe i'll post the feats later if ya want but i don't feel like doing it right now.