Ichigo, he should be faster than Vader, however if Vader is equal with the speed, he wins in a stomp, Ichigo can't resit the force. And Ragna only destroyed the planet when he lost control of his power and he died too. He needs Rachel's help for a lot of stuff, at the end of BBCS2 he became really strong but nowhere near the level of Vader or Ichigo.
@DJSNuva1: I'm in the middle, is speed equal? If so Darth stomps, if not why can't Ichigo speed blitz him? Vader can kill him bia force choke or slamming him all over the place, but other than that I dunno, well lightning too. Basicaly can Vader survive speed blitz? Vader has more raw power but Ichigo is much faster and can kill him in one hit.Vader is proven to be faster than the eye... Some even say lightning speed, which could be faster than Ichigo.
Force choke is one of the weakest force related abilities and slamming Ichigo into walls isn't going to kill him. Don't be silly. Lightsaber would be the only legitimate thing I can think of that Vader can use on him assuming it can touch him.@DJSNuva1: I'm in the middle, is speed equal? If so Darth stomps, if not why can't Ichigo speed blitz him? Vader can kill him bia force choke or slamming him all over the place, but other than that I dunno, well lightning too. Basicaly can Vader survive speed blitz? Vader has more raw power but Ichigo is much faster and can kill him in one hit.
No it's being over hyped to hell if people really think it gives Vader, of all people, more raw power than Ichigo. Especially when I'm hearing how Ichigo would go down to force choke or TKed into walls. The guy can !#$%ing fly, tanks attacks that shatter giant pieces of rock multiple times and can swing his sword to release an energy attack that a Light Saber could not defend against. The best bet that comes to mind would be putting a shield, which I'm sure Vader ever displayed in the EU of being able to do with the force.@Hellos: The force has more power than you give it credit.
He's higher than that in FTG.Ichigo may be city level when he's in FTG mode but he's no where near that level at regular or bankai level
It's good for people that have no way to defend themselves, not so much for someone that has ridiculous super human durability and can swing his sword to launch a massive attack at Vader, which I doubt he would dodge.@Hellos: Well I simply don't know that much about Vader I only saw the movies, and Ididn't know force shoke was so weak so my bad.
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