Hao vs Silver Surfer

Topic started by BattleHeiz on Jan. 12, 2011. Last post by Jflash94 3 years, 8 months ago.
Post by Jflash94 (738 posts) See mini bio Level 8
@Hellos:
because u said it would show no importance but the shaman universe, but the same goes for any char with every other universe, 
 
also eh I dont think this fight will end anytime soon u just want to end it and just stick to are own opinions im starting to get bored of this
Post by Hellos (2,482 posts) See mini bio Level 11
@Jflash94 said:

"@Rapest_of_super_heros:  well he has defeated a few bosses of hell"

 
How powerful are said bosses? Norrin once saved a dudes soul from Mephisto and actually has gone one on one on a few occasions.  
No real wins since Mephisto is MUCH more powerful (most of the time) and the one fight Mephisto let Norrin win.

"and also  has made demons into gods," 

Norrin's been playing ball with Gods for a while of all shapes and sizes.  
He did amp Beta Ray Bill with Power Cosmic before though.
 

" before he had the gs." 

 
How bout after/ =)? 
 

" He also makes said gods his servants but most shamans can make Gods there servants are helpers. " 

That downplays the feat. 
 

"Even without the gs he can take down a lot  of souls and was faster then lightning." 

 
That's pretty slow compared to Norrin. =)   
 
Looks for Namor:
 
 
 
 
Flies through space and time.
   
 
 


 
 


 
 

"But the GS has given him more powers then before like he knows everything that goes on in the universe" 

That seems kinda useless. 
 

" Can make a sun"  

 Doesn't help him here. 

" Can make a supernova Intensify the heat of the sun" 

 Generally a Supernova destroys the star, not sure if thats going to make it "hotter". 
 Although Norrin can likely take the heat, he tank Firelord's hot hot heat.

" He can use the fores of magnetism" 

 The PC has Norrin control all four forces that govern the universe(Stronginteraction, WeakInteraction, Electromagnitism and Gravitation). 
 

"he used to be able to read minds but because he gained friends he lost the ability which is why in the manga it says his heart has lost" 

 Norrin still has his telepathy. 
 

" he also can soul destroy" 

 Astral Plane. =) 
 

" and create Gods of imaginable number." 

 The term God means a lot of things, instead of just saying this, elaborate on how powerful said "gods" are. 
 

" Like for example the first time he was born he had enough furyoku to make enough godss so they could fill every town he visited, the second time, his strength was increased  alot and could make  probably a continents worth[ but this is an assumption], now when he is born the last time, he took down the two strongest shaman in the shamn king verse at that time as a baby, and not only did he take them down, he ran away and raised himself, and made himself so strong that no one could beat him even after training in hell 3 times, this is before he nabbed the Gs, and had only the spirit of fire. Now with the spirit of fire it wasnt just he could soul suck, the sprit of fires soul suck  would not send the sould to the Gs but would just burn it,  But now that he has the Gs, which is his Os at the end of the show, which is why we give it to him, which has every ability of the elementals,and the universe. even destroying a civilization so smart they created a way to make a sun and a bunch of other things, but when they were on the verge of completing the rest of there projects the Gs destroyed them all.  "  

 
Kay
Post by Hellos (2,482 posts) See mini bio Level 11
@Jflash94 said:
" @Hellos: because u said it would show no importance but the shaman universe, but the same goes for any char with every other universe,   also eh I dont think this fight will end anytime soon u just want to end it and just stick to are own opinions im starting to get bored of this "

Because it's true. Just because Gs is tied to all the life in the Shaman King verse doesn't mean if Norrin kills it he dies.  
That was in response to Haofan's comment.
Post by Jflash94 (738 posts) See mini bio Level 8
@Hellos: Well no  because no one has made gods there slaves, but have made them helpers, only two people have done it  so far, anna and Hao, but some gods choose to help there shamans, but only because of some catch or to save the world. Sorry for the earlier comment. It was said that O Oni who was one of the most powerfuul demon  on earth could  destroy souls from a whole continent, each of his gods were originally o oni, and were now turned to gods, which is a big upgrade but it never really states how strong they were, but he does share some connection to them, seeing as when his two top gods are taken over  his eyes bleed, but he doesnt seem to mid it, and I think this is from his top gods. Also fusing with the Gs has amped his abilities to a much higher standard, as where he moves faster, is much more resistent, and can control the universe. Also do you want to know the Gs's powers on  its own or would that be a waste?
Post by Hellos (2,482 posts) See mini bio Level 11
@Jflash94 said:
" @Hellos: Well no  because no one has made gods there slaves, but have made them helpers, only two people have done it  so far, anna and Hao, but some gods choose to help there shamans, but only because of some catch or to save the world. Sorry for the earlier comment. It was said that O Oni who was one of the most powerfuul demon  on earth could  destroy souls from a whole continent, each of his gods were originally o oni, and were now turned to gods, which is a big upgrade but it never really states how strong they were, but he does share some connection to them, seeing as when his two top gods are taken over  his eyes bleed, but he doesnt seem to mid it, and I think this is from his top gods. Also fusing with the Gs has amped his abilities to a much higher standard, as where he moves faster, is much more resistent, and can control the universe. Also do you want to know the Gs's powers on  its own or would that be a waste? "

Does he actually have any feats of "controlling the universe". Because the Universe is a big place and what exactly does "Controlling" it implie.  
I could say Norrin does control the universe to an extent and has feats to show said extent, what does Hao have to show in that regard?  
 
Feel free to list his powers post Gs, just make sure theres some actual evidence in the manga though, not just random implications of where you believe his power lies, I'm not big on those.
Post by Jflash94 (738 posts) See mini bio Level 8
@Hellos: 
lol Gs knows all
Gs is the oldest spirit in the universe
even looking at him knocks u out
The Gs is where all the souls return
The gs was said to create everything in the universe, and destroyed a civilization who tried to copy him
Also thse 3 things are the only thing its shown. Dur to the fact he was interupted and persuaded after the blackhole, which yoh and, the others didnt know what to do to beat it
 
Also another reason his mother was able to calm him down was because 
1 shes his mother, no one would kill there mother wtf, unless they are evil
and 2 woulld it really be a cool ending if he destroyed all humand and everyone else but himself,even the main char, dont think  so , its like galactus just deciding to destroy everyone and move on to Silvergalford that annoyed me
Post by Hellos (2,482 posts) See mini bio Level 11
@Jflash94 said:
" @Hellos:  lol Gs knows all Gs is the oldest spirit in the universe even looking at him knocks u out The Gs is where all the souls return The gs was said to create everything in the universe, and destroyed a civilization who tried to copy him Also thse 3 things are the only thing its shown. Dur to the fact he was interupted and persuaded after the blackhole, which yoh and, the others didnt know what to do to beat it  Also another reason his mother was able to calm him down was because  1 shes his mother, no one would kill there mother wtf, unless they are evil and 2 woulld it really be a cool ending if he destroyed all humand and everyone else but himself,even the main char, dont think  so , its like galactus just deciding to destroy everyone and move on to Silvergalford that annoyed me "

Galactus is older than the Gs and he doesn't knock people out with a look. Although to be fair, Galactus is such a powerful being people watching him are just seeing the tip of the ice bergs because their mortal eyes can't really percieve him. 
Alternate Galactus have killed everyone before, it's not too uncommon. If Galactus believed everything needed to die on the go, he'd do it.
Post by Jflash94 (738 posts) See mini bio Level 8
@Hellos: wait ho do u know hes older, both are basicly as old as time
 and galactus has an alternate form,  Hao on the other hand only has that 1 manga so if he killed everyone that would be the end of it no alternate universes or anything
Post by Hellos (2,482 posts) See mini bio Level 11
@Jflash94 said:
" @Hellos: wait ho do u know hes older, both are basicly as old as time  and galactus has an alternate form,  Hao on the other hand only has that 1 manga so if he killed everyone that would be the end of it no alternate universes or anything "

Cuz Galactus is from the previous universe.  
He slept through the next Big Bang and woke up some time later in the MU, he's older than the current set of abstracts outside LT. 
 
Thats one of the reasons the Elders of the Universe tried killing him due him being older lol.
Post by Jflash94 (738 posts) See mini bio Level 8
but  So Is the Gs probably since he made all he must of came from a universe from before that one , unless thats a fail in logi
Post by Hellos (2,482 posts) See mini bio Level 11
@Jflash94 said:
"but  So Is the Gs probably since he made all he must of came from a universe from before that one , unless thats a fail in logi"

As far as I know Shaman King didn't have a previous universe. We really don't get ANY info if I recall concerning previous big bands or alternate universes in Shaman King.
Post by Susanoo (263 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Silver Surfer.
Post by Jflash94 (738 posts) See mini bio Level 8
@Hellos: 
Yep true  are we just gonna exchangge info or are we about done
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