"Silver Surfer, he can manipulate any form of energy and is quite probably faster then Goku... Goku is definitely the stronger (physically) of the two, but I still say SS due to his energy manipulion skills, he could probably deflect a lot of what Goku throws at him "
Don't !@#$ with Bill.
Him and Thor essentially punching fist to fist leveled the country side:
Norrin layed him out in two punches.
He ended up one shotting the Cancerverse Big Guns:
In general he was just owning things in Imperative, outside the showings of Lord Mar-Vell flooring all of them.
" @SSJjanemba said:Not just any hell eitherLOL 1- Rulk > Goku 2- You do know that it wasn't Current Surfer that he beat....right? 3- Jeph Loeb will burn in hell. "
hold him by the throat