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@Supreme Marvel said:

@mypasswordis1234 said:

@Sonata: And what about the training with hundreds of times gravity before they went SSJ. Or when they lifting giants, or when pushed a big rock IN the ground, as kid.... I am not saying they could play bowling with suns, but who know the dbz well and take seriously the 10ton is ridiculous.

I see Dragon Ball as more of a fantasy. He used his Nyoi-bō to go into space, all the way to the moon. Survived the vacuum and freezing temperatures of space. So I don't take DB seriously.

Of course, the comics and mangas are fantasy, they live with monsters and fly and such. I didn't mean "seriously" as a document film. I mean the 10ton is very few to earlier showings. When I was around 16yo it seemed obvious to me, and here adult ppl who analising shows, feats, debating and know the dbz well, still believe that wasn't just a joke scene.

@Sonata said:

@mypasswordis1234: Do you know how much those weights were? or how much the giant was? or how much the rock was? Heck how much does the Z-Sword weigh? Just because objects are big does necessarily mean they are extremely heavy. Also the 10 ton bit I believe is 40 tons on each limb.

Oh boy. Just because it's a fiction does not necessary change the whole physics. The rock is rock, the metal is metal(btw 2m3 from the hardest metal in that universe, goku easily thrown with one hand), the is brick is brick, the meat, bones, are meat and bones. We can estimate with that. You know what is easy even if it's big? THIS

@Supreme Marvel: @Sonata: Physics that effected on characters body is different... well, I could name a lot of scene where the physics was f*cked up, from dragon ball too, but there is every other comics.

This is different. If you say that the rock is not at the estimated weight as it would be in real, then I could say the moon which was destroyed by superman was not from rock, it was from cheese. And the Earth he lifted was much easier than the real version Earth. And if they stated that it's sextillion ton that was a lie. (cell lied too, so why not the scientist to be nice for superman :D)

The 100 lbs thing was maybe a human fail, but there is no label on rocks.

@Supreme Marvel: Just because they talking about science more, they also do a lot of mistakes. For example here, The metal that Superman grabbed should at least deformed from the effect of sextillion tons. The all-star superman version machine was seemed more real(just seemed, but thats also a great mistake).

@Sonata: You made me lol. Sorry, but this is not "who knows". Elementary school knowledge. The matters has ...(hmm which one the correct word in english)... specific weight/density. There are different stones also, but all of them heavy, and which is so big, surely more than 1-2-3 tons.

@Sonata said:

This is what get DBZ fanboys in debates, they post feats but don't truly understand the meaning behind a feat. Goku moving a "Big Rock" is a nice feat, but heck Chris Redfield from Resident Evil moved a "Big Rock." Does that mean in a battle in arm-wrestling that Chris and Goku are equals? What does it mean?

I think you are who don't understand, the density of matters, and the all rubbing force that makes it harder to moving... is much more than 40tons. How come Chris whoever here? Of course if they are on the same strength then they are on same strength(if he did the exact same thing)

Oh no they made Supes too strong again.

@Supreme Marvel: Well, the all superpower is a physical mistake. :) And as they effect on the environment. But I remember well, when I watched the PC Superman feats... he blowing back the earth, destroying solar or galaxy system with sneeze... a lot of epic mistake, and they write a lot of scientific things. Somebody even wrote that the first comic books of PC Superman was like an educational book. Or a currently, most famous mistake is iron man... I hope you know why.

@ReiKai: IDK what they mean "matrix" but the gravity is effect all around it. If there is a machine that producing the gravity of earth it would pull to it everything. Mass=gravity.

I know there are mistakes in dbz too, but this one is not an unbelievable thing. They also on higher tech-level than us IRL, they have a metal which is unharmed after falling into the earth like a meteor, and Brief (?Bulma's dad) upgraded it. The floor and weights would also stay unharmed because the gravity effect on the object own weight. If the floor is 100kg in 10xG mean 1ton. That's not impossible. Just think about wood. It easy, but can hold much heavier objects. Again I don't say it's totally believable, but not complete epic fail.

@ReiKai: Contain what to not affecting local gravity? Or what artifact gravitational s.ship you talking about? The dbz ship? Even 500G would nothing compared to an Earth... Goku used max 100G. If the ship was 1ton thats 100 ton. Do you think that pull asteroids to itself?