Goku, Vegeta, & Trunks SSJ4 verses Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann.

Topic started by xXZeroXx on Sept. 22, 2011. Last post by Endlesscreator 1 year, 6 months ago.
Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,143 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@MarioRedfield said:

@GIRUGAMESH: Because of morals?...

If it deems them a threat then it won't matter.

Post by MarioRedfield (1,728 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@GIRUGAMESH: If that robot... "mech" would destroy a galaxy to destroy an enemy, then it and it's pilots deserve no respect. That would make them worse than every war criminal in history combined thousands of times.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,143 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@MarioRedfield said:

@GIRUGAMESH: If that robot... "mech" would destroy a galaxy to destroy an enemy, then it and it's pilots deserve no respect. That would make them worse than every war criminal in history combined thousands of times.

Not if it deemed the enemy a great enough threat. I doubt a whole galaxy would need to be obliterated anyway (multiple lesser attacks would do the job).

Post by MarioRedfield (1,728 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@GIRUGAMESH: But even destroying planets would be wrong. There are too many innocent people that would die. That's why the idea of the mech being so large is absurd.

Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,143 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@MarioRedfield said:

@GIRUGAMESH: But even destroying planets would be wrong. There are too many innocent people that would die. That's why the idea of the mech being so large is absurd.

As much as I'd love to get into a morality debate concerning Tengen Toppa the fact remains the mech will not hesitate to annihilate a few worlds if it means eliminating a potentially serious threat. At any rate, the mech stomps and the size of the saiyans will not be a huge problem.

Post by MarioRedfield (1,728 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@GIRUGAMESH: Well any case, I think both of our cases stand then

Post by Yusuke52 (424 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@GIRUGAMESH: @MarioRedfield: They would never endanger a world of people just to get in the attack, assuming they are not Anti-Spirals or the enemy. But it's not like that matters when they can fire lasers with such power and precision that they were able to wipe out the Ashtanga warships who were jumping back and forward in time to try and avoid them with a single shot each, going through time and bypassing their probability altering shields which turns all attacks that hit it to 0%.

Besides this is "In Space", which given the TTGLs size must be a nice big open void of nothing. I don't think either side will have to worry about taking out planets or galaxies.

Post by 5th (1,194 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@Kuma_From_Argentina: But if it's possible then he should do it because IT is capable of tracking the energy of an opponent, individually.

Post by Endlesscreator (11 posts) See mini bio Level 5

@DJSNuva1:

I do not know if this was already answered and I am too lazy to read all the posts.But there are scans from the databook that clearly state that TTGL is larger than a galaxy. I am not sure about the 10 million light years part, but I am 100% sure that the authors confirm him to be larger than a galaxy. It is obvious that the scale of earth compared to the galaxies and other wonky stuff are simply scale issues that are necessary for the plot. i.e WHen we see Earth during the final battle, it is an element used for sake of drama. There if you do not mess up with the scales it would be impossible to see the Earth and ergo it would be quite difficult to understand the scene. And also there is a moment where the Earth is zoomed out and then zoomed in as if some kind of weird dimensional zoom existed.

Anyway here I have a scan

the second sentence states that the mecha ttgl is larger than the milky way galaxy. (yes the milkyway)

As for the battle, Omega SHenron was going to destroy the universe, but via chain reaction and was not an instant event. It was via negative corruption. Like cancer. Even gogeta stated that when he kicked out the minus energy power ball he nullified the negative energy that at that moment was just surrounding earth, with his positive energy. It is evident that the negative energy was not going to expand beyond earth as long as the dragon did not abandon earth. The old supreme kai states that after the Earth was destroyed the corruption of the dragon balls was going to reach other planets, stars and galaxies till the universe reached its extinction. THe description is clear and graphic. It is never described like o big bang boom gg universe.

On the other hand the antispirals can actually one shot the universe. THe characters state that the final attack of Anti spirals had a power comparable to that of the big bang based on the lecture of the computers and the computers of the series dwarf our technology. Keep in mind that our current technology is already capable of measuring the energy of the big bang. This is proven with the CERN experiments.

Ok the infinity big bang storm was born from the fusion of two galaxies and it does not make sense to produce such energy with only two galaxies. Big deal

  • The whole series does not make sense. duh
  • The blast itself was already significantly much bigger than the two combined galaxies
  • From the blast we can see several galaxies being spammed. In the movie lagann hen this is quite more notable.

@5th: Antispirals teleported inside chou ginga gurren lagann. But were unable with TTGL, because the mecha is shielded by massive amounts of spiral energy

THE END

edited: while I was taking a look at the thread I noticed this scan

It states that TTGL is x10^15 the size of choun ginga gurren lagann. But I have trouble with the measure. They are comparing the size of a mecha with different objects. Gurren Lagan with a human. Arc Gurren Lagann with I think it says Tokyo city. (Yes the mecha dwarfs Tokyo). If I am not missing something it is as well indicating that the moon looks small compared to CGGL. And TTGL dwarfing the milky way galaxy where his feet are basically bigger.

Ok if this is the scale comparison then:

ARc GL is like 10 times Tokyo. and Tokyo is like 90 km in diameter.

If this is right GL who is around 10 meters tall multiplied by x10^5 would be 1 million meters tall which is supposed to be the size of arc gurren, this is about 1000 km or over 10 times the diameter of TOkyo. Going by the numbers and scales that the scan provide this seems to be correct and nothing sounds weird here.

CGGL is x10^5 that. SO it would be 100 million km, which is almost 30 thousand times the size of the moon O.O Here is where wonky stuff begins

And TTGL is x10^15 that which would be equal to 1.0 × 10^23 over 1×10^10 light years, (10 billion light years)

I want to think that I missed something, but I do not know where. The calc I made seems to be legit D=. Or I am missing something. Or the authors messed with numbers.

The 10 million light years thing doesn't seem to fit nowhere

If we say that TTGL is x10^15 the size of the moon, then the mecha would be over 3.0 times bigger than the milky way.

But the problem is that there is some text above the mechas that states that TTGL is x 10 ^25 bigger than gurren lann. Even if we say that Gurren Lagann is one meter tall, TTGl would still be 1 × 10^9 light years or 1 billion light years tall.

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