Goku SSJ3 Vs Archetype Earth And End Yusuke Demon Mode

Topic started by Ikki_Minami_ on March 19, 2013. Last post by 7th_Circle_Of_Hellion 1 year, 9 months ago.
Post by SpeedForceSpider (5,084 posts) See mini bio Level 15
@CerusSerenade: Not really technically it would be suicide on Goku's part.
Post by TheNeutralOne (1,016 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@CerusSerenade: Well since everyone is so hyped up about "neutral ground" archetype earth is useless here. This is not the living earth from her verse and she cannot access a gaia that is not there.

Post by othus12 (8,038 posts) See mini bio Level 13

@Kurohige: in the case of the poison master it would be a draw but thats because the poison was an actual attack from his opponent

Post by Masterofdeath (2,262 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Goku fighting Bills in ssj3 you can see what he is doing to King Kai's planet with his bare hands now this is before super saiyan god though so yeah Goku curb stomps here.

Post by CerusSerenade (2,826 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@Masterofdeath: It doesn't matter, he can't put her down permanently, she'll just keep resurrecting. The only way Goku can permanently kill her is to destroy the planet, which will kill him as well.

Post by taichokage (15,468 posts) See mini bio Level 20
What about the neutral ground factor that both the NeutralOne and myself have pointed out? If its neutral ground obviously the team loses. If the teams can do what they can normally do within their respective verses then Goku still wins.
Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

@TheNeutralOne: You need to play Current Code or read her profile in the official website to know this, which is currently untranslated. But Archetype Earth isn't just a being that follows the planet, she is literally the planet itself. It should be assumed that Gaia is included in this case because they are the same entity.

Post by Masterofdeath (2,262 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@CerusSerenade: How about Goku just destroys the planet then has the namekians revive him in a safe place?

Post by TheNeutralOne (1,016 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@Dartz: I recall the people arguing for her saying she was created from the earth itself or something of that nature. If that is the case that means she draws her power from that earth and that earth in that verse alone. Because in dragonball z and naruto and one piece and psyren and a buttload of other manga the earth just doesn't create immortals and then regenerate them. They said that the earth would give her power enough to beat goku as well. It seems all her powers are based on her own earth and that alone.

Edit: where are you even finding her powers and moves and such? Because I am googling her and it is just not there. Help me out a bit so maybe I can understand where you guys are coming from?

Post by CerusSerenade (2,826 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@TheNeutralOne:Archetype: Earth treats Arcueid and Gaia as one, if Gaia is not present it's not Archetype: Earth at her best.

If Goku destroys the planet and the namekians revive him it's outside help and Gaia will call the 7 or so other planets to sick their reality warping types on Goku for being a threat to the planets.

Post by SMXLR8 (7,756 posts) See mini bio Level 16

@CerusSerenade: so it's a draw?

Post by TheNeutralOne (1,016 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@CerusSerenade: Can you please explain all of her powers and more specifically her relation to the earth. Because what I have gathered is that without her earth from her verse she is basically fodder to someone of goku's level. So please elaborate on her relation to earth or at least link me to a useful site where I can read up on her.

Post by Masterofdeath (2,262 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@CerusSerenade: Ok Goku just sets the planet to blow using a frieza move just this time actually be five minutes and he gets off and archetype earth is stuck on Earth.

Post by Dartz (164 posts) See mini bio Level 6

@TheNeutralOne: Archetype Earth is an aspect of Arcueid Brunestud (who was created by the strongest kind of spirits called True Ancestors) (Earth's defense force)). In her profile she is referred to as the Brain of the Planet (星の頭脳体), in her ending she also mentions that it's meaningless to destroy her limbs because they are the limbs of an incarnation and her true limbs are the planet's atmosphere. Archetype Earth lives within Arcueid's subconscious and only shows up when the later is asleep (she says it's like sleepwalking). Her ability allows her to manipulate nature on a planetary scale, among her best feats would be that time when she stopped the Earth's rotation with an order and when she created a planet-sized dimension with a thought; in the original Melty Blood when she summoned the Earth from 1000 years into the future along with the moon. You can read (if you know Japanese) her scenario here:

Post by debeze (222 posts) See mini bio Level 9

goku wins because he cant no lost to girls

Post by waybig1010101 (4,144 posts) See mini bio Level 14

when goku uses the spirit bomb doesn't he collect energy from the earth?

Post by TheNeutralOne (1,016 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@Dartz: So essentially she is a physical manifestation of that earth and her powers are derived from it?

Post by CerusSerenade (2,826 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@Masterofdeath: Archetype: Earth will most likely be able to stop an attack that isn't able to immediately destroy the planet, that or Gaia will rewind the damage.

@waybig1010101 said:

when goku uses the spirit bomb can he collect energy from the earth?

Considering that Gaia will not give energy to Goku over Archetype: Earth, no.

What people don't understand is that Gaia is capable of rewinding all forms of physical destruction. It will only allow its destruction by humans themselves so long as they die with it. Arcueid can go through conceptual death and still be brought back by Gaia, why can't Gaia do the same for itself considering Goku is not capable of such feats?

Post by Masterofdeath (2,262 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@CerusSerenade: Fine how about this then Goku uses solar flare then tosses out a capsule of a spaceship. Flies up into space and destroys the planet from space. The end.

Post by CerusSerenade (2,826 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@Masterofdeath: Goku can't breathe in space.

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