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The Surfer, Goku can only go lightspeed during Instant Transmission, SS can go way beyond light speed.

@Mortein:   
 
  04:49 But how could he have learned it that fast? Now he can travel at the speed of light!!!! so AT the speed of light NOT beyond NOR a little bit faster. go rewatch DB to DBGT as punishment for thinking otherwise.

@Kelleth: LOL
 
@Mortein: And before you start using the Broly movie as a reference remember that is a filler Movie, not connected to DBZ storyline what so ever. Broly is a character that doesn't exist in the main DBZ storylines, King Kai himself stated that there were 4 saiyans around at the very beginning of DBZ Broly was not one of them.

@Sonata said:

"The Surfer, Goku can only go lightspeed during Instant Transmission, SS can go way beyond light speed. "

Goku's feats would suggest otherwise.  
Do you remember when Goku appeared at Namek using IT? It only took a second for him to get there. Bulma took several weeks to get there, and yet the same ship got from Earth to Jupiter in a matter of seconds. So according to IT used, it is many times faster than the speed of light (it may be possible that Goku was able to somehow increase its speed).

Surfer is faster of course

@GIRUGAMESH said:

" @Sonata said:

"The Surfer, Goku can only go lightspeed during Instant Transmission, SS can go way beyond light speed. "

Goku's feats would suggest otherwise.  Do you remember when Goku appeared at Namek using IT? It only took a second for him to get there. Bulma took several weeks to get there, and yet the same ship got from Earth to Jupiter in a matter of seconds. So according to IT used, it is many times faster than the speed of light (it may be possible that Goku was able to somehow increase its speed). "

New Namek may have been a Closer to earth than the Old Namek was, so that may be tough to gauge. It may be possible for Goku to increase his speed, but it still wouldnt be enough to pass the surfer.  Who can travel across the universe in seconds.

@Sonata said:

" @GIRUGAMESH said:

" @Sonata said:

"The Surfer, Goku can only go lightspeed during Instant Transmission, SS can go way beyond light speed. "

Goku's feats would suggest otherwise.  Do you remember when Goku appeared at Namek using IT? It only took a second for him to get there. Bulma took several weeks to get there, and yet the same ship got from Earth to Jupiter in a matter of seconds. So according to IT used, it is many times faster than the speed of light (it may be possible that Goku was able to somehow increase its speed). "

New Namek may have been a Closer to earth than the Old Namek was, so that may be tough to gauge. It may be possible for Goku to increase his speed, but it still wouldnt be enough to pass the surfer.  Who can travel across the universe in seconds. "

True, but Goku used IT to travel across dimensions in the blink of an eye (supreme kai's planet).

The Silver Surfer is much faster. Goku specifically stated that Instant Transmission dematerializes the user into a mass of light and they travel at the speed accordingly and we cannot assume that it allows him to move any faster than that because it is never stated that it does. Now some may say there are feats that imply IT allows Goku to move faster than the speed of light, they are mostly in non-cannon situations or a part of the inconsistency involved in DBZ. The Silver Surfer however moves far in the excess of the speed of light enabling him to move far over 186,000 miles per second, feats that display the Surfer's speed is that he is able to enter hyperspace with little to no effort and is able to travel from galaxy to galaxy in mere seconds while light takes at least thousands of years to reach the nearest galaxy. The Silver Surfer was also sent to search around the world for someone when part of The Defenders and a millisecond after he left Doctor Strange began talking however the Silver Surfer returned in less than 1 second later after traveling around the world before Strange could even finish his sentences.
 
 
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@Sonata: he bypasses the lightspeed barrier casually

@Newdeath: I agree, it was just some inconstancy in the writing. It would be mathematical impossibility for an Object moving Light Speed which Goku said IT was to go move across to another Galaxy in a second. If that is the case then the DBZ universe is extremely small, which I doubt.

@Sonata: Indeed. 
 
 
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@rein: Just another sign of Inconsistency, we have to assume Goku knows what he is talking about  with his own technique.

@GIRUGAMESH said:

" @Sonata said:

" @GIRUGAMESH said:

" @Sonata said:

"The Surfer, Goku can only go lightspeed during Instant Transmission, SS can go way beyond light speed. "

Goku's feats would suggest otherwise.  Do you remember when Goku appeared at Namek using IT? It only took a second for him to get there. Bulma took several weeks to get there, and yet the same ship got from Earth to Jupiter in a matter of seconds. So according to IT used, it is many times faster than the speed of light (it may be possible that Goku was able to somehow increase its speed). "

New Namek may have been a Closer to earth than the Old Namek was, so that may be tough to gauge. It may be possible for Goku to increase his speed, but it still wouldnt be enough to pass the surfer.  Who can travel across the universe in seconds. "

True, but Goku used IT to travel across dimensions in the blink of an eye (supreme kai's planet). "

I think travelling between Dimensions doesn't work in distance and speed but rather being able to teleport beyond the dimensional wall that seperates the said worlds to the point where the place that parallels the place you are right now. and afterwards using speed to get to the place your supposed to be.

@soldier: The Silver Surfer has travelled from several galaxies in mere seconds, light normally takes thousands of years to reach even the nearest galaxy. 
 
 
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@soldier: And what has that to do with my statement  that Goku`s speed has nothing to do with the ability to cross dimensional borders through IT? wrong quote i guess