Goku (Instant Transmission) Vs Silver Surfer (Speed)

Topic started by comicfanforever on Nov. 18, 2009. Last post by JThree47693 4 years, 10 months ago.
Post by comicfanforever (450 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Goku (Instant Transmission) Vs Silver Surfer (Speed) 
 
Who is faster???  
Post by Sonata (35,427 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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The Surfer, Goku can only go lightspeed during Instant Transmission, SS can go way beyond light speed.
Post by Mortein (1,558 posts) See mini bio Level 9
IT is probably faster. And IT is not light speed, it is faster.
Post by Kelleth (7,777 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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@Mortein:   
 
  04:49 But how could he have learned it that fast? Now he can travel at the speed of light!!!! so AT the speed of light NOT beyond NOR a little bit faster. go rewatch DB to DBGT as punishment for thinking otherwise.
Post by Sonata (35,427 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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@Kelleth: LOL
 
@Mortein: And before you start using the Broly movie as a reference remember that is a filler Movie, not connected to DBZ storyline what so ever. Broly is a character that doesn't exist in the main DBZ storylines, King Kai himself stated that there were 4 saiyans around at the very beginning of DBZ Broly was not one of them.
Post by JThree47693 (1,081 posts) See mini bio Level 5
Surfer is faster
Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,192 posts) See mini bio Level 10
@Sonata said:
"The Surfer, Goku can only go lightspeed during Instant Transmission, SS can go way beyond light speed. "

Goku's feats would suggest otherwise.  
Do you remember when Goku appeared at Namek using IT? It only took a second for him to get there. Bulma took several weeks to get there, and yet the same ship got from Earth to Jupiter in a matter of seconds. So according to IT used, it is many times faster than the speed of light (it may be possible that Goku was able to somehow increase its speed).
Post by Nerx (13,843 posts) See mini bio Level 12
Surfer is faster of course
Post by Sonata (35,427 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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@GIRUGAMESH said:
" @Sonata said:
"The Surfer, Goku can only go lightspeed during Instant Transmission, SS can go way beyond light speed. "
Goku's feats would suggest otherwise.  Do you remember when Goku appeared at Namek using IT? It only took a second for him to get there. Bulma took several weeks to get there, and yet the same ship got from Earth to Jupiter in a matter of seconds. So according to IT used, it is many times faster than the speed of light (it may be possible that Goku was able to somehow increase its speed). "
New Namek may have been a Closer to earth than the Old Namek was, so that may be tough to gauge. It may be possible for Goku to increase his speed, but it still wouldnt be enough to pass the surfer.  Who can travel across the universe in seconds.
Post by GIRUGAMESH (2,192 posts) See mini bio Level 10
@Sonata said:
" @GIRUGAMESH said:
" @Sonata said:
"The Surfer, Goku can only go lightspeed during Instant Transmission, SS can go way beyond light speed. "
Goku's feats would suggest otherwise.  Do you remember when Goku appeared at Namek using IT? It only took a second for him to get there. Bulma took several weeks to get there, and yet the same ship got from Earth to Jupiter in a matter of seconds. So according to IT used, it is many times faster than the speed of light (it may be possible that Goku was able to somehow increase its speed). "
New Namek may have been a Closer to earth than the Old Namek was, so that may be tough to gauge. It may be possible for Goku to increase his speed, but it still wouldnt be enough to pass the surfer.  Who can travel across the universe in seconds. "

True, but Goku used IT to travel across dimensions in the blink of an eye (supreme kai's planet).
Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19
The Silver Surfer is much faster. Goku specifically stated that Instant Transmission dematerializes the user into a mass of light and they travel at the speed accordingly and we cannot assume that it allows him to move any faster than that because it is never stated that it does. Now some may say there are feats that imply IT allows Goku to move faster than the speed of light, they are mostly in non-cannon situations or a part of the inconsistency involved in DBZ. The Silver Surfer however moves far in the excess of the speed of light enabling him to move far over 186,000 miles per second, feats that display the Surfer's speed is that he is able to enter hyperspace with little to no effort and is able to travel from galaxy to galaxy in mere seconds while light takes at least thousands of years to reach the nearest galaxy. The Silver Surfer was also sent to search around the world for someone when part of The Defenders and a millisecond after he left Doctor Strange began talking however the Silver Surfer returned in less than 1 second later after traveling around the world before Strange could even finish his sentences.
 
 
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Post by Nerx (13,843 posts) See mini bio Level 12
@Sonata: he bypasses the lightspeed barrier casually
Post by Sonata (35,427 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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@Newdeath: I agree, it was just some inconstancy in the writing. It would be mathematical impossibility for an Object moving Light Speed which Goku said IT was to go move across to another Galaxy in a second. If that is the case then the DBZ universe is extremely small, which I doubt.
Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19
@Sonata: Indeed. 
 
 
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Post by rein (5,465 posts) See mini bio Level 15
@Sonata said:
" @Newdeath: I agree, it was just some inconstancy in the writing. It would be mathematical impossibility for an Object moving Light Speed which Goku said IT was to go move across to another Galaxy in a second. If that is the case then the DBZ universe is extremely small, which I doubt. "
So wouldn't the fact that he can cross over to another galaxy imply that he is ftl? (although it obviously goes both ways like how you demonstrated.) 
anyway, unless It is actually instant, the surfer wins. At one point he went to the end of the universe and back in a matter of seconds.
Post by Sonata (35,427 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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@rein: Just another sign of Inconsistency, we have to assume Goku knows what he is talking about  with his own technique.
Post by Kelleth (7,777 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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@GIRUGAMESH said:
" @Sonata said:
" @GIRUGAMESH said:
" @Sonata said:
"The Surfer, Goku can only go lightspeed during Instant Transmission, SS can go way beyond light speed. "
Goku's feats would suggest otherwise.  Do you remember when Goku appeared at Namek using IT? It only took a second for him to get there. Bulma took several weeks to get there, and yet the same ship got from Earth to Jupiter in a matter of seconds. So according to IT used, it is many times faster than the speed of light (it may be possible that Goku was able to somehow increase its speed). "
New Namek may have been a Closer to earth than the Old Namek was, so that may be tough to gauge. It may be possible for Goku to increase his speed, but it still wouldnt be enough to pass the surfer.  Who can travel across the universe in seconds. "
True, but Goku used IT to travel across dimensions in the blink of an eye (supreme kai's planet). "
I think travelling between Dimensions doesn't work in distance and speed but rather being able to teleport beyond the dimensional wall that seperates the said worlds to the point where the place that parallels the place you are right now. and afterwards using speed to get to the place your supposed to be.
 Its like climbing over an wall (sorry for the cr@ppy art)
 Its like climbing over an wall (sorry for the cr@ppy art)
Post by soldier (495 posts) See mini bio Level 7
@Kelleth said:
" @GIRUGAMESH said:
" @Sonata said:
" @GIRUGAMESH said:
" @Sonata said:
"The Surfer, Goku can only go lightspeed during Instant Transmission, SS can go way beyond light speed. "
Goku's feats would suggest otherwise.  Do you remember when Goku appeared at Namek using IT? It only took a second for him to get there. Bulma took several weeks to get there, and yet the same ship got from Earth to Jupiter in a matter of seconds. So according to IT used, it is many times faster than the speed of light (it may be possible that Goku was able to somehow increase its speed). "
New Namek may have been a Closer to earth than the Old Namek was, so that may be tough to gauge. It may be possible for Goku to increase his speed, but it still wouldnt be enough to pass the surfer.  Who can travel across the universe in seconds. "
True, but Goku used IT to travel across dimensions in the blink of an eye (supreme kai's planet). "
I think travelling between Dimensions doesn't work in distance and speed but rather being able to teleport beyond the dimensional wall that seperates the said worlds to the point where the place that parallels the place you are right now. and afterwards using speed to get to the place your supposed to be.
Its like climbing over an wall (sorry for the cr@ppy art)
Its like climbing over an wall (sorry for the cr@ppy art)
"

I think that you guys need to remember that it was also stated that Raditz was faster than light, and Burter was faster than light, so due to inconsistencies we can tell that it is obviously faster than light. 
Goku travelled to namek in barely any time. Cell could not even keep up, Kid Buu had instantaneous movement, supreme kai's version and even then supreme kai travels guess what: instantly. 
In the manga it is instant, in the anime it is a shamble as it goes from goku saying it is the speed of light, to him travelling to another galaxy in no time. Well this does make sense as vegeta's final flash which is visible travels way faster than light. 
 
So how do you like that (lol) just kidding but goku is faster.
Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19
@soldier: The Silver Surfer has travelled from several galaxies in mere seconds, light normally takes thousands of years to reach even the nearest galaxy. 
 
 
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Post by Kelleth (7,777 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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@soldier: And what has that to do with my statement  that Goku`s speed has nothing to do with the ability to cross dimensional borders through IT? wrong quote i guess
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