frieza vs broly

Topic started by ktarinze on April 30, 2010. Last post by Sonata 1 year, 9 months ago.
Post by ktarinze (577 posts) See mini bio Level 6

they both meet after the buu saga after training in hell they meet each other who wins
Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19
Is this even a fair battle? Broly should win with relative ease. Frieza while using 100% of his full power could barely stand against an untrained Super Saiyan Goku and eventually lost while Broly's power allowed him to simultaneously manhandle a Fully Powered Super Saiyan Goku, Fully Powered Super Saiyan Gohan, Super Vegeta, Super Saiyan Trunks and Piccolo (Who at the time possessed the sufficient power to trade blows with Android 17 an opponent stronger than a regular Super Saiyan). Broly even managed to beat the Z Warriors to a state of near-death until Piccolo arrived in time with Senzu Beans to heal their wounds only for them to suffer the same beating again. There is absolutely no way Frieza can win. 
 
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Post by Nanatsu (322 posts) See mini bio Level 7
Broly massacres him
Post by ktarinze (577 posts) See mini bio Level 6
@Newdeath said:
"Is this even a fair battle? Broly should win with relative ease. Frieza while using 100% of his full power could barely stand against an untrained Super Saiyan Goku and eventually lost while Broly's power allowed him to simultaneously manhandle a Fully Powered Super Saiyan Goku, Fully Powered Super Saiyan Gohan, Super Vegeta, Super Saiyan Trunks and Piccolo (Who at the time possessed the sufficient power to trade blows with Android 17 an opponent stronger than a regular Super Saiyan). Broly even managed to beat the Z Warriors to a state of near-death until Piccolo arrived in time with Senzu Beans to heal their wounds only for them to suffer the same beating again. There is absolutely no way Frieza can win.  ND "

wasnt using frieza from namek saga i said they meet after training in hell it comes down to who is better at training
Post by Destinyheroknight (10,277 posts) See mini bio Level 21
Broly wins
Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19
@ktarinze: Who is better at training? There is no way to decide that since we haven't seen either of the two train. I would also state that Broly would still win effortlessly because he starts with a massive power and speed advantage. It doesn't really matter how we look at this because even a teenage Broly could have easily defeat Frieza since Broly's SSJ form was achieved during his adolescence.
 
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Post by ktarinze (577 posts) See mini bio Level 6

frieza fighting skills are better broly is just a moonster force i dont think broly power could increase during that span like friezas can frieza would be able to challenge broly in hell after the years have passed
Post by Sonata (35,387 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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Broly was already Miles ahead of Frieza to start off with, so it will basically makes no difference If they had equal training.
Post by LiquidPrince (97 posts) See mini bio Level 8
@ktarinze:  It really has nothing to do with training. Broly already has a huge power advantage, meaning Freeza would probably have to train for years just to match up to Broly's original power. Now if Broly had been training simultaneously, then Freeza could pretty much never catch up.
Post by ReiKai (3,516 posts) See mini bio Level 10
Freeza doesn't train. After getting raped on Namek, Freeza got turned into a cyborg which supposedly made him stronger. He didn't even try to train. Even if you made him train in Hell, it wouldn't compare with Brolly who would go around Hell fighting and smashing everyone in sight, Freeza included. As long as Brolly is conscious he'll go around destroying worlds, fighting and obliterating everything in his path. Basically, Brolly doesn't stop and in his LSSJ his power grows indefinitely. Even giving Freeza that 7yrs to train, even if Brolly remained on ice the whole time like in "2nd Coming", Brolly would still stomp the crap out of Freeza.
Post by Newdeath (18,555 posts) See mini bio Level 19
@ktarinze: You're not taking into consideration the ridiculously high power advantage Broly has over Frieza. During his first appearance it was shown that Broly's power increases dramatically as he maintains his Legendary Super Saiyan form. While training in Hell his power surely would have reached truly monstrous levels. This has nothing to do with training. Take into account that Goku has been training his entire life while Broly doesn't even train and when they met for the first time to battle Broly's power was too overwhelming for even the skilled Goku to handle. To make it simple, both Broly and Goku were born in the same day, Broly always had a massive power advantage over him, Goku has been training his entire life while Broly hasn't and when they first fought Broly massacred him along with his comrades. The same would go for Frieza. 
 
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Post by ReiKai (3,516 posts) See mini bio Level 10
No I know of that. However, Brolly doesn't "train" in the same manner as everyone else. He is constantly "exercising" his powers though, like attacking cities, countries, worlds, entire planets, etc etc. Brolly did that most of his life which is another form of "training", especially for a Saiyan, and he excelled at it. Freeza never did anything aside from the occasional reprimand or planet-nuking to keep people in line. Aside from that he let his soldiers do all the work. Freeza never regularly exercised his powers and it may be he could've been a lot stronger 30+yrs ago. Think of it. Gohan didn't train for 7yrs after he killed Cell and he got quite a bit weaker because of it. The same could be said for anyone.
 
Either way, I'm just saying that even if you let Freeza train the whole time and had Brolly chilling on ice like in 2nd Coming, Brolly would still stomp him into the ground. Even his SSJ form was enough to bitchsmack Goten and Trunks easily.
Post by ktarinze (577 posts) See mini bio Level 6

true that broly does have a higher power level then frieza but with training i think he could do something to broly  broly took on a gohan weaker then super saiyan 2 gohan in cell saga 
so broly power level is somewhere weaker then gohans ss2 level in cell saga he does have a higher power level then frieza but not impossible for freiza to overcome with  years of training and broly really dosent train just a monster with a huge powerlevel that increases in lss form so i think frieza will do damage to him possibly even win with training
Post by Dream (7,627 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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@ktarinze: In the world of DBZ, anyone who has the highest power level wins. No amount of training and experience can prepare you for everything, even taking on a monster like Broly. If we went along by your mentality, then that would be saying Master Roshi would steamroll the Z Fighters because he has the most "training and experience." It makes no sense whatsoever.
Post by ReiKai (3,516 posts) See mini bio Level 10
No, it's not weaker. Brolly was just screwing around with SS2 Gohan. He was overpowering SS2 Gohan, SS2 Goku and SS1 Goten with ease. Freeza doesn't come close to being a threat to Brolly.
Post by ktarinze (577 posts) See mini bio Level 6
@Dream said:
"@ktarinze: In the world of DBZ, anyone who has the highest power level wins. No amount of training and experience can prepare you for everything, even taking on a monster like Broly. If we went along by your mentality, then that would be saying Master Roshi would steamroll the Z Fighters because he has the most "training and experience." It makes no sense whatsoever. "

that is not true because if thats the case cell owns everybody they had to go in time chamber to get close to cell so actually training and experience does matter so if we went off that cell would be the strongest by your menntality they trained to beat him why couldnt frieza train to beat broly
Post by ktarinze (577 posts) See mini bio Level 6

@ReiKai said:

"No, it's not weaker. Brolly was just screwing around with SS2 Gohan. He was overpowering SS2 Gohan, SS2 Goku and SS1 Goten with ease. Freeza doesn't come close to being a threat to Brolly."

toying with them or not he still beat broly if your toying with somebody they should not beat you except if there is a huge powerlevel increase and there wasnt any power level increase when he fought them

Post by hitsusatsu11 (10,747 posts) See mini bio Level 20
come on easily brolly, and freeza really never seems to train in hell. but anyway galaxy buster>>>>>>>multiplanet buster anyday
Post by ReiKai (3,516 posts) See mini bio Level 10
"he" didn't beat Brolly. Brolly lost due to a massive plot-device. It was the same in the previous movie. They made Brolly too damn powerful to be beaten by anything else. It was quite clear without a plot-device Brolly would've killed everyone easily and that'd be the end to the whole deal.
Post by ktarinze (577 posts) See mini bio Level 6
this is all a plot but he got killed regardless
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