Franklin Richards vs Z

Topic started by Jinbeifan1 on Oct. 3, 2013. Last post by KingOfAsh 11 months ago.
Post by Jinbeifan1 (3,279 posts) See mini bio Level 14

Marvel comics Franklin Richards from the future who fought the Celestials

Z at his top strength

battle in space

Post by XxGin (386 posts) See mini bio Level 8

FR

Post by Dream (7,616 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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Franklin's powers are gonna be too much for the LHW to handle here.

Post by ReiKai (3,515 posts) See mini bio Level 10
LHW negates Reality Warping and Zetto blitz-erases him from existence. Btw Omnipotent/Nigh-Omnipotent threads are prohibited.
Post by Dream (7,616 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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@Raigen: Since when are Z and Franklin nigh-omnipotent? -_-

Post by Kobra678 (3,175 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Can FR get through a LHW is the question.

Post by KingOfAsh (1,389 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Z wins

Post by Dream (7,616 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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@Kobra678: LHW can only fend off attacks and hax up to universal level. Franklin's future self shouldn't have much difficulty penetrating them.

Post by KingOfAsh (1,389 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@Dream: When has even his future version shown to be above Universal? He's Universal at max.

Post by TheNeutralOne (1,016 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Didn't franklin richards create a universe as a kid under his sheets?

Post by GeneralVan (1,763 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Is FR universal or multiversal? If it's the latter he wins, if it's the former Z pulls out a win.

Post by KingOfAsh (1,389 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@GeneralVan said:

Is FR universal or multiversal? If it's the latter he wins, if it's the former Z pulls out a win.

He's shown no multiversial feats, and has even struggled to be fully Universal (in Hickmans FF run) so the former

Post by ReiKai (3,515 posts) See mini bio Level 10
@Dream: When you're at universe/multiverse level of power, you're considered nigh-omnipotent. 2 LHW has Zetto at universal level, he has 5 altogether. Either way it's another pointless debate.
Post by Jinbeifan1 (3,279 posts) See mini bio Level 14

@ReiKai: how does he blitz erase him? that makes no sense :P

Post by Dream (7,616 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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@Raigen: Nigh-omnipotence implies that the person in question has an extensive range of powers affecting things with certain limitations and is some sort of abstract or cosmic being. Z's never been shown to exhibit the wide range of powers that beings like the Choushin or future Franklin Richards have exhibited and Franklin isn't an abstract or cosmic being.

Post by KingOfAsh (1,389 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@Dream: Franklin Richards failed to stop the collapse of the Universe though, even though he had help. Z merged two Universes together.

Post by Dream (7,616 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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@KingOfAsh: The merging two universes bit was with the mecha Zinv from Dual Parallel Trouble Adventure, not Z.

As for Franklin, what are you referring to specifically? His reality warping is at least above universal level considering he could create pocket universes and even a universe through his reality warping as a kid, so he shouldn't have much difficulty screwing Z up badly here.

Post by KingOfAsh (1,389 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@Dream: Making a pocket universe doesn't make him Universal

Post by Dream (7,616 posts) See mini bio Level 21
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@KingOfAsh: He still created a universe and his future self was shown to have enslaved Galactus, which has to account for something considering how difficult it is for teams of superheroes to deal with Galan whenever he threatens the Earth.

Post by KingOfAsh (1,389 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@Dream: When did he create a whole universe? He just made a little one as a kid. Enslaving Galactus doesn't make him Universal (Galactus isn't always at Universal strength) and he had to horde his power for ages in advance for that

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