so on comic vine does any know this user SSJLozza?
"Because at least 3 of the Z fighters are Planet busters +, and Goku is ftl (implying so are the others as Gohan and Vegeta are depicted as being just as fast) they also have ftl reaction speeds, and most importantly instant transmission allows them to appear above, in front, beneath, or behind any character whenever they want. Not to mention they have durability above most (although not all) of the other characters. They can't lose, Yamcha or Krillin could beat any of the enemies 1 on 1 ffs!"
How do you know their reaction times are slower than the Flash's? Just because he's the fastest in DC doesn't mean that he's faster than characters from other franchises. Who of these can possibly shrug off a planet buster then? If it was Silver Age I agree that Supes would tank a Planet buster but definitely non of the others, I mean come on WW isn't even bulletproof.
How do you know Flash is any faster than the Z fighters? The Superman sneeze thing, when did that happen? The only two DC characters that even matter here are Supes and WW, and Z fighters are faster, stronger and far more skilled than them.
Hang on you've just said Flash is faster than the Z fighters, and then said we have no idea how fast the Z fighters are, that doesn't add up. We know Goku to be FTL as Raditz said it. Fair enough on the Superman thing that could cause a problem, i still think Z fighters win but they couldn't solo, unless Vegeta and Goku fuse.
Dbz characters are reuglarly shown as planet busters, when Goku only charged up to SSJ3 there were hurricanes and tsunamis world wide. How can you anyone honestly think that WW who sometimes is shown using effort to lift cars etc and can't take a bullet (which Goku did at the beginning of DB when he was 12!) can hold a candle to his power? Likewise Supes, WW and MM had to combine their power to drag the moon! Roshi destroyed the moon in DB with a power level of 139- Goku has a power level of hundreds of millions by the end of DBZ, he's definietly at least SS buster.
How do you know Flash to be faster than Z fighters though? You're just assuming cos that's his only power that he MUST be faster than Z fighters. We have no idea how fast Goku is save that he's ftl therefore there is a possibilty that he's every bit as fast as Flash. The argument of this being a mistranslation is one I've never heard before (not saying it was you who said it) does anyone have proof of this being a mistranslation?
I never said he was faster I just said we don't know either way, Z fighters don't tend to have the same "feat" measurement everyone seems so sold on Powerscaling was the idea. I know Toriyama dismissed it himself however given that DBZ doesn't have the class 100 etc system its the only thing we can go on. No Raditz said Goku was ftl, are you calling Raditz a liar?! You seem awfully worked up for what should just be a bit of fun- debating fictional characters. Now if we are to go by feats then I think DBZ actually far outclasses the JLA and the avengers- mountains are destroyed almost every episode simply by characters flying through them. Also the powerup of Goku at SSJ3 causng disasters stands, given that he certainly wasn't trying to make such things happen imagine what a non-genki dama full powered Kamehameha could do, then imagine what Mystic Gohan who is stronger than DBZ Goku at his strongest could do. Scared now aren't we?!"
Like really what a extreme DBZ fan boy