Dark Schenider & Uriel Vs Janemba, Super Buu & Omega Shenron

Topic started by shinjihirako123 on May 15, 2012. Last post by Sonata 2 years ago.
Post by ohgodwhy (1,480 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@The_original_goku10000: OMG re-read that Janemba vs Hades thread even Vector said that Janemba would lose.

Post by peruano99A (492 posts) See mini bio Level 9

First he says Janemba is Universal now he says Multiversal lmao.

Post by The_original_goku10000 (119 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@Yusuke52:

Aside from Tenchi being the anime equlivant of TOAA

No,no,no, I don't get where you get this from but this is a lie, there's no way to prove he is that strong.

He would virtually destroy everything in the Dragon Ball Universe with no effort at all. To say anything otherwise is utter retardation.

No, this is utterly retarded. "To say anything otherwise is utter retardation. "

but his showings are pathetic in the reality warping scale

Feats that you try so hard to ignore say otherwise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zULiFdAze04 Having enough energy to warp dimensions.

and he never "busted" anything by using them so using that to try and show his destructive power is, as you say "Fucking Stupid".While his infulence (Range) is great, his usage of it is not. To say he can do anything other than change the appearance is to take his reality warping out of context as he showed no signs of being able to do anything other than that.

I already addressed this in my other post. "The point in me bringing up Janemba warping dimensions was not to imply that he was going to turn ds and uriel into shit or anything close to that the point im trying to make is that you need alot of energy to warp something as big as dimensions, correct, yes. Okay, I'm glad we got that out of the way, now we know that in dbz verse if you have enough power to destroy something you have enough energy to warp it or vice versa that's all proven by Shenron. "

So I ask once again show me him blowing up a planet or releasing even remotely enough power in an attack to destroy 6-8 planets.

I don't need to but asking me to show janemba doing something that even saiyan saga vegeta(powerlevel of 18,000) could do is very stupid form your part. This is way more impressive than destroying planets http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKIKC681Dcc Shaking entire dimensions, and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zULiFdAze04 Having enough energy to warp dimensions.

Own? No, Vector even agreed that Hades wins... What is your point again? you still lost that thread too.

Yes,owned, you see I won/owned because I actually read saint seiya and knew what I was talking about.

Fail on that last one. Besides we never claimed multi galaxy busting,

I've read the manga and it's stated that they are multi galaxy busters reason why I said " BY STATEMENTS", way to fail.

we said galaxy busting because of the statement for the Judas Pain and then the confirmed destruction of the Black Abyss.

Yes there all statements. Prove he destroy the Black Abyss do it now. I already prove he didn't he ONLY MADE A SMALL HOLE. you even see the other demons still there even a human is still there and this is shown when DS is fighting Uriel on earth.

Show me one instance of Janemba being Multiversal in the destructive department, to call him that otherwise is retarded.

HE CAN WARP DIMENSIONS TO DO THAT HE NEEDS TO HAVE ENOUGH ENERGY TO ALSO DESTROY IT. See if you have enough energy to warp a planet you have enough energy to destroy it as well, not that hard to understand.

You cling to his reality warping like a child, And that is the only aspect of his powers that is "Multiversal" in any aspect (And I use the term multiversal very loosely). Try and debate his strength, speed, and true power such as Ki Attack and so on (You know, the things that actually matter at this point. We already said his reality warping is next to useless in a combat scenairo).

If he has enough KI to warp dimensions he was enough KI to destroy them, there's no magical way reality warping somehow take less energy they both take equal amount of power to do.

No, most of the people that have read Bastard!! would know all this stuff already, even the guy Vector who you brought up to try and make a point against me, agreed with me on the first page of this thread so you are losing, nay have already lost any hope you had of winning this since everyone is against you.

1.) Vector still has to explain why he thinks that before I comment on that.

2.) There laughing at your ass because in one of your post you said you wanted me to prove that janemba was multiversal by using feats only and not by statements and the ironic part is that Bastard!!! most impressive feats are not feats but UN-proven statements. You're Hypocrisy is almost tangible, rolf.

I really should stop here since everything has been said and its already decided that Team 1 stomps and all I am doing is looking over the bridge and feeding the troll, but for some reason I am still getting enjoyment out of your posts. I might just let you post for a few days and then have a good read on monday to lift my spirits for summer and my birthday. Yeah that sounds good, If nothing else I shall get a good laugh for my birthday! :)

You must have a rueful birthdays if i'm you're main center of laughter, uhhhhhhh I guess that's your mamas fault as well *shrugs*

@Destinyheroknight said:

@The_original_goku10000:

Beca....becaus....because most people here are ignorant and I'm certain that mostly everybody that's read Bastard!!! is laughing at your pathetic ass.

I laughing, but not at them LOL!

I laughing very too. I laughy at yous.

Post by The_original_goku10000 (119 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@peruano99A said:

First he says Janemba is Universal now he says Multiversal lmao.

I don't know if you read but I said he was Multiversal(hence Dimensions) in my previews posts.

@Everybody

I find it hilarious that all of you think ds beats janemba because its stated that DS is a galaxy buster but ignore that janemba was stated to be a universe buster and yet continue to say ds is the clear victor of this match.

Post by Destinyheroknight (10,158 posts) See mini bio Level 21

@The_original_goku10000:

I really doubt that you read those Manga, your argument are kind of lacking and I been reading since this started (Janemba isn't as powerful, that you make him out to be)

That all I want to say, I'll go back to the sideline (it funny to watch people acting like little kids in a debate and taken things way to seriously LOL!)

Post by The_original_goku10000 (119 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@Destinyheroknight said:

I really doubt that you read those Manga,

I can assure you I have.

(Janemba isn't as powerful, that you make him out to be)

What do you mean by that, I'm only portraying him as the movie does. But if you disagree explain why, your points are very "lacking".

That all I want to say, I'll go back to the sideline (it funny to watch people acting like little kids in a debate and taken things way to seriously LOL!)

Oh, no, you just can't do that my good sir you must explain how DS wins, is it with his MFTL speeds, invincible shields/blood stone, or with his galaxy busting powers, or maybe he wins because no character in fiction out side of Bastard can completely destroy his body.

Post by ReiKai (3,463 posts) See mini bio Level 9
Janemba gets hurt by being called bad names.
  
 Now what's gonna happen when Darsh starts smack talking?
 
Answer: Janemba explodes and dies because he can't take an F-bomb.
Post by Destinyheroknight (10,158 posts) See mini bio Level 21

@The_original_goku10000:

What do you mean by that, I'm only portraying him as the movie does. But if you disagree explain why, your points are very "lacking".

Well first, I going by what it says in the Daizenshu (that states he was throwing both Earth and the afterlife into chaos, not all of the universe)

Post by The_original_goku10000 (119 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@ReiKai said:

Janemba gets hurt by being called bad names.
Now what's gonna happen when Darsh starts smack talking? Answer: Janemba explodes and dies because he can't take an F-bomb.

Good point but Janemba still has regen and tele.

@Destinyheroknight said:

@The_original_goku10000:

What do you mean by that, I'm only portraying him as the movie does. But if you disagree explain why, your points are very "lacking".

Well first, I going by what it says in the Daizenshu (that states he was throwing both Earth and the afterlife into chaos, not all of the universe)

Well, yes and no, he wasn't affecting earth like he was affecting heavenly realm and in the movie if you've watched it he was affecting the heavenly realm and the the place where the other world tournament was being held and goku also stated he was affecting every dimension in creation. Also I never said he was affecting the universe where earth is located.

Post by ReiKai (3,463 posts) See mini bio Level 9
Janemba regen is garbage and isn't proven to bring him back once body is destroyed. Also, he doesn't teleport. He does a spacial shift that fans generally refer to as his "Bunkai Teleportation" in which he separates himself into those blocks. However as Vegeta has proven, it's imperfect as what he does is creates a link in space from where he is and where he's going, essentially a a spacial distortion portal, which still allowed Vegeta to blast Janemba mid-port. It's utterly useless against someone hundreds of times faster than he is, with Actual teleportation abilities, and who can rip power from other dimensions rather than just shifting space.
Plus abilities that're specifically designed to function in other dimensions and powerful enough to destroy the targets soul. And this was prior to even learning to use the Judas Pain.
Nvm Janemba's regen being crap, but it's only at a physical level. Darsh can have him consumed easily. Trap'im in a dispel bound and have him consumed body and soul by Bacteria from Hell.
Post by Destinyheroknight (10,158 posts) See mini bio Level 21

@The_original_goku10000:

Sorry, I was talking about the heavenly realm. I just use the afterlife because that what I always call that place

goku also stated he was affecting every dimension in creation.

But DB only have like three dimensions and they all within the heavenly realm, that not really a big feat (but I guess I'll watch the movie again to see if I miss a part) and also it wasn't stated in the Daizenshu

Post by The_original_goku10000 (119 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@ReiKai said:



Janemba regen is garbage and isn't proven to bring him back once body is destroyed.

Well its hard to know how good his regen is considering he only used it once and it seem to work very fast.

Also, he doesn't teleport. He does a spacial shift that fans generally refer to as his "Bunkai Teleportation" in which he separates himself into those blocks. However as Vegeta has proven, it's imperfect as what he does is creates a link in space from where he is and where he's going, essentially a a spacial distortion portal, which still allowed Vegeta to blast Janemba mid-port. It's utterly useless against someone hundreds of times faster than he is

All I know its some kind of teleportation technique don't know how it works exactly. It's not that's it useless against someone faster just more skilled like vegeta example ssj 3 goku is faster than vegeta but vegeta figured out the weakness in the technique.

with Actual teleportation abilities,

Its not like he's going to use it, since you know he barely uses it.

, and who can rip power from other dimensions rather than just shifting space.

Elaborate.

Plus abilities that're specifically designed to function in other dimensions and powerful enough to destroy the targets soul. And this was prior to even learning to use the Judas Pain.

and that did what to porno who is weaker than janemba and master roshi.

Nvm Janemba's regen being crap, but it's only at a physical level. Darsh can have him consumed easily. Trap'im in a dispel bound and have him consumed body and soul by Bacteria from Hell.

That's nice but the problem there is that attack is weak and janemba has no soul .

@Destinyheroknight said:

@The_original_goku10000:

Sorry, I was talking about the heavenly realm. I just use the afterlife because that what I always call that place

goku also stated he was affecting every dimension in creation.

But DB only have like three dimensions and they all within the heavenly realm, that not really a big feat (but I guess I'll watch the movie again to see if I miss a part) and also it wasn't stated in the Daizenshu

I already listed the other dimensions and explained where they were found and there more than 3 and no there not in the heavenly realm/other world.

Post by Destinyheroknight (10,158 posts) See mini bio Level 21

@The_original_goku10000:

I already listed the other dimensions and explained where they were found and there more than 3 and no there not in the heavenly realm/other world.

Really!? I guess I miss that part, can you point me in the right direction?

That's nice but the problem there is that attack is weak and janemba has no soul .

I pretty sure that the ogre is his soul from what I got from the movie

Post by The_original_goku10000 (119 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@Destinyheroknight said:

That's nice but the problem there is that attack is weak and janemba has no soul .

I pretty sure that the ogre is his soul from what I got from the movie

Really!? I guess I miss that part, can you point me in the right direction?

I found it.

"No you're actually wrong there that's something to be expected from you. There is more than one universe/dimension just a few of the top of my mind, Universe =where earth is located, The Demon Realm it's a universe opposite to the regular one, The hyper time chamber= where they go to train, The world beyond/Heavenly Realm= hell,heaven,etc is located there, The Kaioushin Realm= universe of the high ranking gods of dbz there they watch over the living realm , Anomalous Space= where the other world tournament took place, Divine realm=place where the dead kami go. Those are just some that came to mind."

I pretty sure that the ogre is his soul from what I got from the movie

No, never mind, well i don't know,uhh, I know for a fact the ogre wasn't the soul. The reason why I said he didn't have a soul is because he was born from the evil that was stored so umm, i got to contemplate that some more lol.

Post by Destinyheroknight (10,158 posts) See mini bio Level 21

@The_original_goku10000:

where earth is located, The Demon Realm it's a universe opposite to the regular one, The hyper time chamber= where they go to train, The world beyond/Heavenly Realm= hell,heaven,etc is located there, The Kaioushin Realm= universe of the high ranking gods of dbz there they watch over the living realm , Anomalous Space= where the other world tournament took place, Divine realm=place where the dead kami go. Those are just some that came to mind."

Huh, I always thought that the Heavenly Realm is where Hell, Heaven, the Kaioushin, Anomalous and Divine are. Huh, I guess I need to look at the universe map again (thanks for the info)

Post by Yusuke52 (424 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@The_original_goku10000: Ah your claims about reality warping are funny, so he needs Ki to use it now? Where was this stated? Lol where did you get this idea from, given that the only limit for a true reality warper is his/her imagination I dont think he would be constricted by power reserves like Ki.

I am not going to debate a god like Tenchi with you because it would pointless, just know that he is far more powerful than anything in Dragon Ball.

This is way more impressive than destroying planets http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKIKC681Dcc Shaking entire dimensions, and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zULiFdAze04 Having enough energy to warp dimensions.

You must be easily impressed then because I would rather see Janemba blow up a planet. So like I said before so me him blowing up a planet and then show me Goku blowing one up. And stop with his reality warping already its not impressive and he has no control over it so it has no place here. So me his Physical Strength and his Ki based attacks with video clips, without them your argument has no base at all.

I've read the manga and it's stated that they are multi galaxy busters reason why I said " BY STATEMENTS", way to fail.

Way to fail? I said we never claimed multi galaxy busting, which we didnt. What we claimed was the confirmed destruction of the Black Abyss which was 5 million solar masses and also the entrance to hell, Which also broke down the dimensional wall and allowed them to pass through into earth, and the statement about the Judas Pain...

I at no point ever thought they were multi galaxy busters or said so for that matter, because their feats contradicted this (Like Janemba being "Multiversal" (LOL) in terms of destruction), Their destructive power is a minimum of Galaxy Busting (Which I show below, again...) anything beyond that is possible but I wont use it against you because there is no point.

Michael confirms its destruction by saying "The attack of the Dragon Knight and Uriel destroyed the Black Abyss" (Second Panel from the bottom) and then it goes on to say "They really destroyed the wall of hell even if it was just for a brief moment".

The first point there is the destruction of the Black Abyss (The Gates to Hell) that you think didnt happen but did, and the second thing there the breaking of the dimensional wall (which were the cracks in the sky), which you thought was the only thing they destroyed. And which is what let them jump through into earth

I dont see why you are having trouble with that, It was confirmed destroyed by Michael, do you somehow know more than her despite the fact that it was shown and then confirmed?

No, most of the people that have read Bastard!! would know all this stuff already, even the guy Vector who you brought up to try and make a point against me, agreed with me on the first page of this thread so you are losing, nay have already lost any hope you had of winning this since everyone is against you.

1.) Vector still has to explain why he thinks that before I comment on that.

2.) There laughing at your ass because in one of your post you said you wanted me to prove that janemba was multiversal by using feats only and not by statements and the ironic part is that Bastard!!! most impressive feats are not feats but UN-proven statements. You're Hypocrisy is almost tangible, rolf.

1. He agreed with me that Dark Schneider could solo this fight, that the DB team have no way to kill them, and that they do not have any attacks strong enough to break through dispel bound...

Dark Schneider can solo. They have no way to kill either him or Uriel, and they will never break through Dispel Bound.

this

Quoated from him

2. Yeah clearly you have yet to read the replies to your posts because people have been making fun of you for awhile now, such as posting images mocking you, laughing at your claims and so on...

And yeah I still want you to prove to me that Janemba, or anyone in Dragon Ball for that matter, has destroyed (Not reality warped the appearance of mind you) anything remotely similar to the Black Abyss in one shot (Even Broly had to take his time in destroying the Southern Galaxy, he didnt one shot it), at this point I just want you to show me a solar system being destroyed on screen. That is all, even a star in one shot will do, go for it.

Wow you even posted the same video twice... Not much out there to prove janemba is a multiversal being is there? Even these videos you find impressive dont prove he is. A teenage school girl reset the universe for the lolz it required no energy on her part and she was not drained by it at all. She stuck the universe in a loop that repeated over 15,000 times and was still full of energy when it ended. So yeah trying to prove it cost him Ki to use his reality warping powers is pointless, I would have more sucess in passing off Sean Bean as Kobe Bryant than you would trying to prove that.

HE CAN WARP DIMENSIONS TO DO THAT HE NEEDS TO HAVE ENOUGH ENERGY TO ALSO DESTROY IT. See if you have enough energy to warp a planet you have enough energy to destroy it as well, not that hard to understand.

Fail Logic is fail.

Janemba by powerscalling should be able to destroy 2-3 maybe 4 planets with one shot. His displays of on screen power are so low that he was destroyed within a 50 minute "Movie" (I generally conisider a movie to be at least 1 hour 20 minutes, but this is classed as a movie so I will call it such, Hellsing OVA's are longer than that "Movie")

I've read the manga

Sorry but I dont believe that.

You must have a rueful birthdays if i'm you're main center of laughter, uhhhhhhh I guess that's your mamas fault as well *shrugs*

Not at all, your posts, that are a good chuckle if nothing else, are just one of the many good things I will be doing/seeing for my birthday.

But I have been rather unfair as I have not even tried to say what Janemba can do.

So yeah Janemba through powerscalling would be something like multi planet level in terms of destruction (He was using what appeared to be town busters so we can use that as a minimum, and when I say multi planet level its in the range of 2-4 in one shot, but that is from powerscalling), he would be around the same speed as other top tiers so above mach 1000+, Durability sucks in some aspects but to attacks I would say he would be multi planet level there too.

His best feat in my opinion was when he was using dimensional slashes with his sword, so I found that to be a far better display of power on his part. His reality warping happened as a side effect of his existence, not as a delebrit act of power so trying to say something like "Becasue of that he can destroy the multiverse" is taking it way out of context

His reality warping, im sorry to say, I dont find that all to impressive (Could be because any other reality warper I have seen has done things far beyond that) but lets be fair and say what happened. So he altered the Otherworld by changing the appearence of it into these jelly bean shaped solid constructs that absord Ki attacks and that inadvertantly open the gates of hell and let the dead walk the earth, So he really only affected the other world directly. As for Goku saying "Hes affecting every dimension in the universe" You have to look at it like this, how would or could he know that every dmension in the universe is being affected? What he more than likely ment was that he is affecting all of the otherworld, and earth.

So all in all he is a strong guy but If im honest he is not the strongest guy on the Dragon Ball team, I have heard that Shenron is the most powerful non canon villian in Dragon Ball. But im not sure about that (Never cared to watch GT, my friend told me it sucked so I never watched it, same goes for Kai). But as I said he is a strong guy but logically his showings are lower than DS and Uriels and that goes for the others on the Dragon Ball team. The leaps in power in Bastard!! were shocking and they over took Dragon Ball a good bit before the end of the series. That is why I say they lose and that would most likely be the same reason why the others have said so too, its because they are just far to fast powerful durable and hax. Had they been limited to base forms then the Dragon Ball team has a chance of victory but otherwise the gap between them is too much. Dispel bound will tank every attack they dish out and they will be blitzed with attacks so fast it will be over in about 1 minute. I dont hate Dragon Ball I just know Bastard!! is a stronger verse.

Post by The_original_goku10000 (119 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@Yusuke52:

Ah your claims about reality warping are funny, so he needs Ki to use it now? Where was this stated? Lol where did you get this idea from, given that the only limit for a true reality warper is his/her imagination I dont think he would be constricted by power reserves like Ki.

Of course he needs ki everything in dbz revolves in ki he doesn't just magically get power out of nowhere. Way to prove you don't know shit about dbz.

I am not going to debate a god like Tenchi with you because it would pointless, just know that he is far more powerful than anything in Dragon Ball.

You won't cause you can't as of now my views of you are quite bad, I see you as a respect thread dweller that gets his information for second hand sources.

You must be easily impressed then because I would rather see Janemba blow up a planet. So like I said before so me him blowing up a planet and then show me Goku blowing one up. And stop with his reality warping already its not impressive and he has no control over it so it has no place here. So me his Physical Strength and his Ki based attacks with video clips, without them your argument has no base at all.

I like how you took out the part that pretty much fucked up your argument " I don't need to but asking me to show janemba doing something that even saiyan saga vegeta(powerlevel of 18,000) could do is very stupid form your part " and it's stupid to ask me for feats that are less impressive and saying her da derp if you can't post a video of x character destroying a house then he is weak , even though the character is has destroyed a planet before.

Way to fail? I said we never claimed multi galaxy busting, which we didnt.

And I never said you did I said the manga, nice to know you can't read.

What we claimed was the confirmed destruction of the Black Abyss which was 5 million solar masses and also the entrance to hell, Which also broke down the dimensional wall and allowed them to pass through into earth, and the statement about the Judas Pain...

Yes you did problem there is that DS never destroyed The BA he and uri only made a small HOLE in the dimensional wall if you read the manga you would of known. Even when I call you out on your double standard you continue to just use statements and expect me to use feats, you have to be the worst debater I ever debated or seen debating and that's something.

I at no point ever thought they were multi galaxy busters or said so for that matter,

I never said you did, I never said any of you did.

because their feats contradicted this

LOL,rolf, oh lord hahaha. All of bastard feats contradict there statements.

(Like Janemba being "Multiversal" (LOL) in terms of destruction),

Yes, only in your retarded mind it does.

Their destructive power is a minimum of Galaxy Busting (Which I show below, again...) anything beyond that is possible but I wont use it against you because there is no point.

LOL, Is this guy for reals. You haven't read the manga have you.

Michael confirms its destruction by saying "The attack of the Dragon Knight and Uriel destroyed the Black Abyss" (Second Panel from the bottom) and then it goes on to say "They really destroyed the wall of hell even if it was just for a brief moment".

That just proves my point even further.

The first point there is the destruction of the Black Abyss (The Gates to Hell) that you think didnt happen but did,

Destroying the Black Abyss means destroying the whole thing (Including everything inside like including human, demons , rocks, trees, everything else inside.) DO YOU UNDERSTAND EX.) Master roshi destroyed the moon. That means he destroyed all of it. You won't have any trouble proving that then will you.

1. He agreed with me that Dark Schneider could solo this fight,

God kid go to school learn how to read then come back. I already address this.

that the DB team have no way to kill them,and that they do not have any attacks strong enough to break through dispel bound...

I already told you they can and even told you how. But just to shut you up i'll tell you again first they need spiritual energy to kill his astral form, now do dbz character have that yes its called ki, so they got that down, second they need to destroy his ethernal atoms by attacking to the atomic level can ki do that yes it can they killed cell at the cellular structure and they goku stated he could kill buu too. and the physical part should be no problem for a multiveral being.

THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER WAY, BY MAKING DS USE ALL HIS ENERGY HE IS GOING TO DIE FOR EVER.

2. Yeah clearly you have yet to read the replies to your posts because people have been making fun of you for awhile now, such as posting images mocking you, laughing at your claims and so on...

Oh god not the macros.

And yeah I still want you to prove to me that Janemba, or anyone in Dragon Ball for that matter, has destroyed (Not reality warped the appearance of mind you) anything remotely similar to the Black Abyss in one shot (Even Broly had to take his time in destroying the Southern Galaxy, he didnt one shot it), at this point I just want you to show me a solar system being destroyed on screen. That is all, even a star in one shot will do, go for it.

Making a small hole in a dimension is not impressive even hollows for bleach can do that, try again.

Wow you even posted the same video twice... Not much out there to prove janemba is a multiversal being is there? Even these videos you find impressive dont prove he is. A teenage school girl reset the universe for the lolz it required no energy on her part and she was not drained by it at all. She stuck the universe in a loop that repeated over 15,000 times and was still full of energy when it ended. So yeah trying to prove it cost him Ki to use his reality warping powers is pointless, I would have more sucess in passing off Sean Bean as Kobe Bryant than you would trying to prove that.

I don't think you know how dbz works so you read/watch it then come back K.

Also feats that support Janemba being multiversal: His own feats that you refuse to accept because your a retard. 1.) Janemba casually warps dimensions. 2.) Goku shakes dimensions by transforming. 3.) Buuhan was going to destroy the universe by getting mad. 4.) base form goku gt destroys a dimension. 5.) omega was going to destroy existence by just standing there.

Fail Logic is fail.
Janemba by powerscalling should be able to destroy 2-3 maybe 4 planets with one shot. His displays of on screen power are so low that he was destroyed within a 50 minute "Movie" (I generally conisider a movie to be at least 1 hour 20 minutes, but this is classed as a movie so I will call it such, Hellsing OVA's are longer than that "Movie")

You're post are kinda of Ironic I don't know if you have noticed. Any way by your logic frieza >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Janemba. "HEr De Derpa Fail Logic is fail dea derps" .

His reality warping happened as a side effect of his existence, not as a delebrit act of power so trying to say something like "Becasue of that he can destroy the multiverse" is taking it way out of context

So let me get this straight, you believe janemba somehow got energy from a magical place that gives him energy and thats how he managed to warp dimensions instead of using his ki which dbz is all about?

His reality warping, im sorry to say, I dont find that all to impressive (Could be because any other reality warper I have seen has done things far beyond that) but lets be fair and say what happened. So he altered the Otherworld by changing the appearence of it into these jelly bean shaped solid constructs that absord Ki attacks and that inadvertantly open the gates of hell and let the dead walk the earth, So he really only affected the other world directly. As for Goku saying "Hes affecting every dimension in the universe" You have to look at it like this, how would or could he know that every dmension in the universe is being affected? What he more than likely ment was that he is affecting all of the otherworld, and earth.

I don't really care about your opinions so yeah.

Now think about this really hard with your 2 inch brain, why would the creators of the movie make goku say that, think about it, hell i'll even help you, Maybe it was because they were portraying him a very strong being, huh, is that why they made him warp dimensions by just simply existing. HAHAHAHAHA no way that's way to logical.

But as I said he is a strong guy but logically his showings are lower than DS and Uriels and that goes for the others on the Dragon Ball team.

I just love your twisted retarded logic. ex.) master roshi destroyed the moon Vegito didn't even destroy a tree therefor master roshi >>>>>>>>>vegito. flawless logic. Also destroying a castle is not very impressive compared to dbz feats. and i'm not going to take into consideration ds and uriel MAKING A SMALL HOLE IN the dimension because its unquantifiable.

Post by Yusuke52 (424 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@The_original_goku10000: No point in us going back and forth even when I give you some good feats for janemba (Logical feats of power, good ones too nothing to be shirked at) you refused to read them and kept on going on again and again. So yeah believe what you want to believe at this point .

2 votes for Dragon Ball and shitload more for Bastard!!

So yeah good luck with all that Janemba stuff.

Destroying the Black Abyss means destroying the whole thing (Including everything inside like including human, demons , rocks, trees, everything else inside.) DO YOU UNDERSTAND EX.) Master roshi destroyed the moon. That means he destroyed all of it. You won't have any trouble proving that then will you.

Umm the Black Abyss is the gateway to hell not hell itself, destroying it simply destroys that entrance to hell, its nothing more than a door way into hell... Please dont tell me you believed up to this point that the Black Abyss was hell itself or was of similar construct to something like the Check In Station?

Seriously, dont tell me this is why you dont believe in its destruction.

Post by The_original_goku10000 (119 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@Yusuke52 said:

No point in us going back and forth even when I give you some good feats for janemba (Logical feats of power, good ones too nothing to be shirked at) you refused to read them and kept on going on again and again. So yeah believe what you want to believe at this point .

You mean you gave me feats that you hand picked and that well even master roshi could do. Thanks but i'm going to go with his average feats.

2 votes for Dragon Ball and shitload more for Bastard!!
So yeah good luck with all that Janemba stuff.

I debunked all your claims and Proved janemba was multiversal using feats from the movie which you decided to ignore, new flash you can't just ignore what you don't want to hear and say you're right, that only goes to prove you are desperate.

Umm the Black Abyss is the gateway to hell not hell itself, destroying it simply destroys that entrance to hell, its nothing more than a door way into hell... Please dont tell me you believed up to this point that the Black Abyss was hell itself or was of similar construct to something like the Check In Station?
Seriously, dont tell me this is why you dont believe in its destruction.

I'll double check and it still doesn't matter what your implying here is that DS and Uriel are stronger than the other devil kings and satan himself, is that what you really think?

P.S. I'm not going to respond in a while since I have to get ready for finals.

Post by Dream (7,093 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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Everybody, just ignore the troll/ fanboy and we can just move on our very way!
 
In terms of this battle, definitely going for Team Bastard. Uriel and DS would be able to solo individually with little effort.
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