Cyttorak vs Dark Schneider

Topic started by Danilo018 on March 28, 2010. Last post by DJSNuva1 4 years, 3 months ago.
Post by Danilo018 (419 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Cyttorak has power level like if he is in his dimension, and Dark Schneider has power level at the end of Bastard and all of his adittional items(Judas Pain etc...). 
So who will be victorious in this beatle ? 
This is my first topic here on AnimeVice so don't be to harsh :)
Post by Nerx (13,843 posts) See mini bio Level 12
@Danilo018: this is good, and not spiteful although I need more info on Cyttorak here
 
currently siding with DS because of the Dispel Bound which protects him against reality warp and inexistance
Post by Danilo018 (419 posts) See mini bio Level 9
@Nerx said:

" @Danilo018: this is good, and not spiteful although I need more info on Cyttorak here  currently siding with DS because of the Dispel Bound which protects him against reality warp and inexistance "


Do you have account on Comicvine ? If you have you can colect some information about him in his threads, cause on his profile ain't much about his powers. But anyway here is some short info for you. The Cyttorak is vastly powerfull, during the Infinity war he kidnaped the Galactus, Nova (the herald of Galactus) and Doctor Strange and the could do nothing to him. When Doctor Strange fought Zom, the demon that needed the LIving Tribunal interfirance to be stoped, The Zom invoked the magic of Raggador( the member of Octessence, along with Cyttorak, but less powerfull than Cyttorak). After the fight with Zom, Living Tribunal had a short fight with Dr. Strange. And had to invoke the magic of Raggador to counter the Doc's magic attack that used the magic of some other member of the Octessence. Anyway in his home dimension Cyttorak is said to be omnipotent. The Vishanti, which one member Aggamotto fought Galactus to a standstill, and may also defeted him if the fight wasn't interupted(it was said by Doc strange) are afraid of Cyttorak and don't want to fight anything that has any connection with him. Cyttorak can also create life out of nothing and his avatar Juggernaut can't be harmed with physical force. Also in some issue Juggernaut fought Oblivion to a standstill, because previosly he learned some Cyttorak's magic in Crimson Cosmos(Cyttorak's dimension), Juggernaut(who posses a tiny fraction of Cyttorak's power) has fought, the demon Nightmare in his real and defeted him. And that demon has kidnaped Eternity, and when Nightmare was defeted by Juggernaut  Eternity was freed. That's short explanation of Cyttorak's power. You should check the scan when Juggernaut fight the demon D'Spayer on ComicVine. If you don;t have an accout there let me now and I will post the scan for you.    
Post by comicfanforever (446 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Well...Good Fight..... 
 
Cyttorak (outside his realm) Vs Dark Schreider  - Dark Schreider Wins  
Cyttorak (Within his realm) Vs Dark Schreider  - Cyttorak Wins 
      
Post by FLCL1 (3,935 posts) See mini bio Level 7
@comicfanforever said:
"Well...Good Fight.....  Cyttorak (outside his realm) Vs Dark Schreider  - Dark Schreider Wins  Cyttorak (Within his realm) Vs Dark Schreider  - Cyttorak Wins        "

i kinda agree
Post by Nerx (13,843 posts) See mini bio Level 12
@Danilo018: Does he have any fancy attacks like force beams or something like that?
Post by ReiKai (3,463 posts) See mini bio Level 9
Does who have any? I'm sure Cyttorak has something and Darsh has....craploads of things he can actually do and use. And actually the "omnipotent inside own realm" bit isn't exactly correct. The same has been said about Mephisto and Doc Strange has still been able to get in, jack people out and leave without Mephy being able to stop him.
Post by Nerx (13,843 posts) See mini bio Level 12
Sometimes in comics omnipotents are not exactly omnipotent , like how mephy is weak compared to dormammu who is [maybe] weak compared to shuma and yet they are described as being omni [or nigh]
Post by FLCL1 (3,935 posts) See mini bio Level 7
@Nerx said:
"Sometimes in comics omnipotents are not exactly omnipotent , like how mephy is weak compared to dormammu who is [maybe] weak compared to shuma and yet they are described as being omni [or nigh] "

omnipotent means all powerful right? even in their own relm they arent that...
Post by Danilo018 (419 posts) See mini bio Level 9


Well you should consider the fact that Cyttorak is described as more powerfull than Galactus for 2 reasons: 

1. The Vishanti are afraid of Cyttorak and don't want to fight him, and The Vishanti > Galactus, and The Vishanti also dare to fight Shuma-Gorath who is consider as one of the biggest Multiversal threats in Marvel. So judging by that logic Cyttorak > Shuma Gorath also and Shuma Gorath>>Mephisto, Satanish and Dormammu 
 
2. He kidnaped Galactus and Galan coudn't do nothing to him 
 
As you all know Galactus is decribed in comics as an extremly powerfull beign(he destroeyd parallel universe easily in one ocassion). 
For Cyttorak's special attacks there haven't been many of his fights in comics. But other characters like Doctor Strange, Dormammu, Satanish, Zom (and I think Mephisto on one ocassion) have invoked his magic to batle many powerfull opponents. Doc Strange has defeated several strongest minions of Shuma Gorath with magic invoked with Brands of Cyttorak.

Post by FLCL1 (3,935 posts) See mini bio Level 7
@Danilo018:
when did this happen?
Post by Danilo018 (419 posts) See mini bio Level 9
@FLCL1:
What ? Kidnaping Galactus ? It happend during the Infinity War saga. I'll post scans later.
Post by Danilo018 (419 posts) See mini bio Level 9
@FLCL1 said:

"@Danilo018: when did this happen? "


Visit thread Octessence vs Shuma Gorath. Here is the link http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/octessence-vs-shuma-gorath/526082/?page=3  . You'l see pleanty of good scans there  
Post by Nerx (13,843 posts) See mini bio Level 12
@FLCL1: Uh huh , what is the point of being omni when they can freaking lose?
Post by Liminality (173 posts) See mini bio Level 5
That Dark Schneider is fighting everywhere! what about him agaisnt every other existing character in anime? or him against Arceus? But someone kill him already!
Post by Nerx (13,843 posts) See mini bio Level 12
@Liminality: Well can you beat him without winning?
Post by ReiKai (3,463 posts) See mini bio Level 9
Shuma from all I know is only universal, not multiversal threat. Galactus is universal unless you count full-scope of the Ultimate Nullifier which could potentially erase the multiverse. Thing is Doc Strange has fought back beings like Dormamu and Shuma-Gorath and despit their 'nigh-omnipotent' status, still get tooled by a guy whose best magical feat was asking Eternity for permission to be his Avatar in order to save a galaxy or something. A lot of the power levels in Marvel don't make sense when far weaker people are still overcoming them. With Galactus we know and can assume the cause of his losses being because he's not at full-power due to hunger issues.
Post by cfatalis (19,150 posts) See mini bio Level 15
@Liminality said:
" That Dark Schneider is fighting everywhere! what about him agaisnt every other existing character in anime? or him against Arceus? But someone kill him already! "
some character would actually GRIND Dark Scheneider
Post by Danilo018 (419 posts) See mini bio Level 9
@ReiKai said:
"Shuma from all I know is only universal, not multiversal threat. Galactus is universal unless you count full-scope of the Ultimate Nullifier which could potentially erase the multiverse. Thing is Doc Strange has fought back beings like Dormamu and Shuma-Gorath and despit their 'nigh-omnipotent' status, still get tooled by a guy whose best magical feat was asking Eternity for permission to be his Avatar in order to save a galaxy or something. A lot of the power levels in Marvel don't make sense when far weaker people are still overcoming them. With Galactus we know and can assume the cause of his losses being because he's not at full-power due to hunger issues."

Well Shuma Gorath has invaded many universes, dimensions, and realities and by those feats he killed many Eternities, so it makes him easily a multiversal threat. When they refere to one of his realms the refere to some councerd universe or dimension or reality.
Post by DJSNuva1 (3,347 posts) See mini bio Level 11
@cfatalis said:
" @Liminality said:
" That Dark Schneider is fighting everywhere! what about him agaisnt every other existing character in anime? or him against Arceus? But someone kill him already! "
some character would actually GRIND Dark Scheneider "

Yeah, characters like Krona(Entropy)
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