Current Madara & Kabuto Vs Shakuma Ravegroove and Haja

Topic started by shinjihirako123 on June 12, 2012. Last post by TheNobody 2 years, 4 months ago.
Post by shinjihirako123 (602 posts) See mini bio Level 9

speed equal on all lvls

no edo

who win

Post by One_Piece_God (569 posts) See mini bio Level 8

Kabuto dies easily.

The combined powers of Shakuma & Haja should be more than enough to take Madara down.

Post by FormerCrimsonKing (4,486 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@One_Piece_God: haja takes madara himself

Post by TheNobody (289 posts) See mini bio Level 7
How are they gonna kill Madara if he's immortal?
Post by ohgodwhy (1,593 posts) See mini bio Level 12

@TheNobody: He said no edo

Post by TheNobody (289 posts) See mini bio Level 7

And if speed is equal how they ever gonna keep up with the likes of Kabuto who's dodged an arrow covered in amaterasu from Sasuke? This is probably a stalemate as none of them can kill each other, Kabuto can spam his oral rebirth technique as much as he wants which should keep him alive also in SM his senses are enhance dramatically so that he can react and keep up with oh most anything, if he so desires he can basically manipulate any sort of element as SM allows him to draw the energy of nature inside of him blending it with their own chakra (created from spiritual and physical energy within the shinobi), adding a new dimension of power to the sage's chakra, resulting in the creation of "senjutsu chakra". And Shakuma is an over hyped as it was stated that he could destroy the world but he hasn't shown anything to be capable of destroying the world however he can match cities making him a perfect opponent for Madara. Haja is basically on the same level of Kabuto without speed so if Kabuto is given prep he can summon the undead and end this fight. I give it to team 1 since Madara's perfect Susano'o levels cities and multiple mountains, and this is all what we've seen from the first appearance of his Susano'o, who knows what he has in store next. He said only a Bijuu can match his power (excluding Hashirama) and by going off that statement a Bijuu are multi mountain busters.

Post by FormerCrimsonKing (4,486 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@TheNobody: ok, now your taking this naruto wanking too far. shakuma is on a completely different lvl than madara in every single stat, DC, Durability, Speed, And Mobility, whats stopping him from teleporting to the air and spamming multi city block lvl tidal waves and drowning them? or raining down an infinite amount of meteors(although not as strong as madara's meteor) whats stopping haja from mind raping them? and kabuto has no prep whatsoever. how will he summon any undead ppl with no DNA to use the jutsu?Besides, madara would be out of chakra by time he even gets close enough to attack. all his feats were in edo form where he has unlimited chakra, that isnt the case here

Post by TheNobody (289 posts) See mini bio Level 7

@FormerCrimsonKing: Edo form didn't tweak any of his chakra and none of the edos have unlimited chakra, they're just immortal, there was nothing said about unlimited Chakra or else Itachi would be capable of reopening his lost eye. And the Perfect Susano'o is more than enough hand full to take on a city block attack as it was capable of sweeping all the Kages on their backs, you're completely down rating Madara here as if his abilities were out of their league. The guy changed an entire landscape, summoned two giant meteorites that could set an entire forest to waste, and if that's not enough his clones are equal to his original power. His rib form Susano'o was capable of tanking a river of lava and lighting altogether without much effort. Hell he can spam as many as his clones as he wants to, and Madara when not even using his full power was already shown to be at the level of city block. Current Madara already had all his abilities before (excluding Hashirama cells) as he states that he had gained the Rinnegan in the midst of his fight with Hashirama. His Perfect Susano'o is already at the level of destroying several land and mountains from long distances, and this isn't the full extent of his Perfect Susano'o power yet. For all we know he's holding back as he's only used one of the Rinnegan abilities in the fight, he can soul rape, resurrect, manipulate gravity, and manipulate memories. Madara is basically on the same level of Aizen but without the speed, and since speed is equalized I see Madara and Kabuto having the better edge of this battle. If Kabuto dies Madara can easily resurrect him with his Naraka abilities or Kabuto can use Oral Rebirth to just come back from the dead (even amaterasu was ineffective against oral rebirth). And if the infinite amount of meteors aren't as strong as Madara's then how do you expect that attack to stop him?

Post by FormerCrimsonKing (4,486 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@TheNobody: the only reason he even used the meteor in the first place was because he was in his edo for and knew he would survive the impact... he even said it.......you still havent told me how they would deal with this.....they would be swept away and drowned.

Post by TheNobody (289 posts) See mini bio Level 7

@FormerCrimsonKing: Uhm... With this.

The scale of the tide cannot really be tell because there is nothing around it, just a giant aircraft. And Madara needs a good distance to summon his meteorite, plus he allowed himself to get hit by his own attack considering the kages were the only survivors.

Post by FormerCrimsonKing (4,486 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@TheNobody: for one madara doesnt start with susanoo up, shakuma can spam his attack just by doing one motion.

the ship is considered large building lvl and was dwarfed by the tidal wave.

Post by TheNobody (289 posts) See mini bio Level 7

@FormerCrimsonKing: Madara can instantly summon his Susano'o at any given time like he did on the Kages, he was savoring it because he was reluctant on using his powers on such weak opponents. Though the scan you posted is impressive however I can see Madara just slashing through the Tidal Waves as his Susano'o has already been shown to be a complete multi mountain buster with just one attack.

Post by FormerCrimsonKing (4,486 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@TheNobody: its not nowhere near multi mountain busting. for one, he only cleaved the top parts of the mountains of, he didnt bust anything, for 2, please show me him summoning his complete susano instantly and not one level at a time

not to mention him and haja could spam this as well

Post by TheNobody (289 posts) See mini bio Level 7

@FormerCrimsonKing: What? That's clearly mountain busting now you're just wanking, he swung once and all the sudden the mountains were cleaved apart like butter and this was only from a few kilometers away. Imagine what would happen if he was closer? He's easily a multi mountain buster at this state, and those weren't no ordinary mountains either. Those were larger than normal mountains as you can see large hills and smaller rock formations beneath them

the time the Tsuchikage raised his hand the Perfect Susano'o was perfected

Post by FormerCrimsonKing (4,486 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@TheNobody: lol wait, im wanking because i said it wasnt mountain busting? lol you need to go look up what the word means before you try and use it. you also need to look up what busting something means. because like i said before, he only cleaved the top of the mountains apart. he didnt "bust" anything......also, whats stopping shakuma from teleporting behind susano and spamming more attacks from different angles? susanno has yet to show that is has great mobility.

Post by TheNobody (289 posts) See mini bio Level 7

@FormerCrimsonKing:

Susano'o power is yet to be revealed, it has two samurai swords and one has already cleaved an entire valley along with scattering two mountains. Oh! Yeah! That wasn't mountain busting! It's obvious if he had attack up close he would've slaughtered those mountains, even from a distant the sword slash left the two mountains scattered as you can see from the impact from behind the two. We'll have to wait and see how he handles Susano'o but so far it's pretty fast and destructive and considering an ordinary Susano'o can survive city block attacks imagine what the durability of this one? Madara even says that only a Bijuu can take him on in this form, Bijuu are easy multi mountain busters and I believe him because he took control of Kurama (The demon that set a land of rivers, mountains, and forests to waste) and tamed it like a pet.

Post by FormerCrimsonKing (4,486 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@TheNobody: speculating will get you nowhere. until his power is revealed all that matters is what he has done....more speculating. who knows what it would of done at close range....all we got is feats and none are close range....also' Feats>>>statements....unless your saying that amaterasu is as hot as the sun.durability has nothing to do with him being swept away by a huge tidal wave and drowning.

Post by TheNobody (289 posts) See mini bio Level 7

@FormerCrimsonKing: Yes it does because you need durability to survive such a tidal wave which Madara can easily slice through. There are no speculations? WTF it's clearly shown what he can do to two mountains from miles away.... Stop disregarding the scan, you keep underrating when it's clearly shown above what he can do. HE'S A MULTI MOUNTAIN BUSTER! IT'S SO CLEAR!

Post by FormerCrimsonKing (4,486 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@TheNobody: right, so he could withstand being lifted into the air by a tornado of water hundreds of meters tall?? ok. like i said, its only speculation on how much damage he could do up close. i have yet to see a mountain being busted in any of your scans...only top parts of mountains cut off...very similar to what mihawk did

Post by TheNobody (289 posts) See mini bio Level 7

@FormerCrimsonKing: His Susano'o is mountain size, I don't see the problem here of him easily slicing through the tide wave. He's at least close to 100 meters if not above, he's definitely larger than a large building.

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