Cross Marian (D. Gray Man) vs Vash the Stampede (Trigun)

Topic started by Haofan123 on June 13, 2012. Last post by DBZ_universe 10 months, 3 weeks ago.
Post by Haofan123 (3,619 posts) See mini bio Level 13
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Morals ON

In character

Manga Vash

Vash can use the Angel arm but is limited to its Angel wings ability

He has a single black hole bullet

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Post by FalconC2 (344 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Well, I think Cross has the advantage in movement speed. Vash has damn good reactions, and attacking speed though; his wings also defend him automatically. Does Vash have access to his black hole bullets? If not, then I can see this going in Cross's favor.

Cross's illusions won't do much, I think. Vash could just use pain to break out of them like he did with Dominique. The same goes for Carte Garde. If Legato couldn't control Vash, I don't see how Cross is going to be able to.

EDIT: Then again, since Vash is in character I'm not sure if he would be willing to use the black hole bullets on Cross. That would probably kill him.

Post by Haofan123 (3,619 posts) See mini bio Level 13

@FalconC2 said:

Well, I think Cross has the advantage in movement speed. Vash has damn good reactions, and attacking speed though; his wings also defend him automatically. Does Vash have access to his black hole bullets? If not, then I can see this going in Cross's favor.

Cross's illusions won't do much, I think. Vash could just use pain to break out of them like he did with Dominique. The same goes for Carte Garde I believe. If Legato couldn't control Vash, I don't see how Cross is going to be able to.

No, I figured that that would be overkill. Besides, considering vashes pacifistic nature, he wouldnt use them on cross any way

Post by FalconC2 (344 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@Haofan123: Yes, you're probably right on that. Those black hole bullets are deadly, there's no doubt on that. It would be uncharacteristic for Vash to use them on Cross without extreme provocation.

How durable is Cross anyway, would Vash's Wings or his normal bullets be able to do any damage?

Post by Haofan123 (3,619 posts) See mini bio Level 13

@FalconC2 said:

Yes, you're probably right on that. Those black hole bullets are deadly, there's no doubt on that. It would be uncharacteristic for Vash to use them on Cross without extreme provocation.

How durable is Cross anyway, would Vash's Wings or his normal bullets be able to do any damage?

Yes, I would say so. There have been many times in anime/manga history where a character with high durability can still be injured by "lesser" things. Take Zoro from one piece for example. He has taken attacks no ordinary human being should usrvive, yet a bullet to the skull would still kill him stone dead. I feel like it would be the same here and that vashes bullets should be able to injure cross, especially considering vashes expert marksmanship. In addition to that, his angel wings tore up legato during thier fight, so that may play a factor as well

Post by FalconC2 (344 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@Haofan123: Vash is particularly skilled and Cross doesn't have a lot of durability feats that come to mind, excluding power-scaling. Vash could take out Cross's joints, or his eye for instance to incapacitate him; the later is uncharacteristic though. The Wings would protect Vash from Cross's attacks. But I know Cross's bullets have some impressive piercing power, and can hurt characters like the Level 4 Akuma so I'm not sure how the Wings would hold up to them.

I think it's up to whoever attacks first. It can go either way.

Post by Haofan123 (3,619 posts) See mini bio Level 13

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Post by DBZ_universe (7,805 posts) See mini bio Level 17
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So what are some feats of Cross?? cause I don't want to say Vash wins right away...

Post by Haofan123 (3,619 posts) See mini bio Level 13

@DBZ_universe said:

So what are some feats of Cross?? cause I don't want to say Vash wins right away...

He can fire bullets so fast that it sounds like one shot depsite the fact that he actually fired 5 or 6, his grave of maria can control peoples movements, he can amp up his innocence in order to fire a highly destructive attack called arrow of original sin, he should easily be abullet timer, and his bullets follwo their target until they strike it

Post by DBZ_universe (7,805 posts) See mini bio Level 17
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@Haofan123 said:

@DBZ_universe said:

So what are some feats of Cross?? cause I don't want to say Vash wins right away...

He can fire bullets so fast that it sounds like one shot depsite the fact that he actually fired 5 or 6, his grave of maria can control peoples movements, he can amp up his innocence in order to fire a highly destructive attack called arrow of original sin, he should easily be abullet timer, and his bullets follwo their target until they strike it

Wow that are some badass feats!!! he is similar to Vash but in different ways as well... like firing multiple bullets that it sounds as if it was one... but would his Grave of Maria give him an advantage since you said it can control peoples movements?

Post by Haofan123 (3,619 posts) See mini bio Level 13

@DBZ_universe: well, in the manga vash has been shown to overpower legatos manipulation, which is leauges above crosses, so i wouldnt say it gives him an advantage offense wise

Post by DBZ_universe (7,805 posts) See mini bio Level 17
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@Haofan123: Well that is true... Legato is a dangerous dude.. he could manipulate an entire village/town with ease.

But wouldn't the bullets that follow the opponents would be tricky for Vash though.. and also Vash does have a hidden gun... so idk..

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