@TheRedRose: kizaru cant attack at lightspeed
Let's just say Kizaru can travel and attack at a light speed rate yet cannot entirely move at Light Speed in such instance it takes time to charge up his attacks or move, Oh and I'm going to have to go with Black beard. While you are all going by ranks and titles you have to go by the real evidence and feats, and then combine them to come up with a conclusion. And by reading over some feats from Black Beard he seems to have the better hand in this fight, by simple logic it is said not even light can escape from a black hole. That is enough to say that Black Beard stomps Kizaru.
Ok guys, looks like we all need to take a leaf from this guy's book if we want to be great debaters like him.
1. People have been using feats in their arguments.
2. Logic plays very little part in most animes, especially in shonen. Making it the foundation of your argument for a fight like this would be idiocy.
3. Where did the stomp come from? You seem to be using the word rather lightly judging by the argument you put forth.
Please get off your high chair mr holier-than-thou.