Bills vs Ichiryuu

Topic started by supernova7005 on Oct. 9, 2013. Last post by Shinigami_Dragon 10 months, 1 week ago.
Post by supernova7005 (1,966 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@flamesaber: I am talking about attack potency, NOT destructive capacity.

It requires more energy to stop the rotation of a saturn sized planet than what is required to destroy the earth.

Post by flamesaber (423 posts) See mini bio Level 8

@supernova7005:How does that matter in a fight ?

higher the DC and SPEED the more chances you have to one shot your opponent.

Post by taichokage (12,884 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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While true, that applies to many advantages not just DC and speed. Greater hax and potency also increase the chances of killing or one shotting.
Post by DBZ_universe (15,657 posts) See mini bio Level 17
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Minority world gives Ichiryuu an edge here.

Post by waybig1010101 (2,955 posts) See mini bio Level 13
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bills wins cause in character he would get mad and would blow up the planet. Also minority world isn't instant kill and in character ichiryuu only used minority world against Midora because he knew how powerful he was so agaisnt bills he might not go all out from the start including using minority world but even bills who was not going all out was casual putting DBZ high tiers to sleep and at the end of the movie was going through planets like nothing and the reason was because he ate wasabi.
Post by Ikki_Minami_ (1,005 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@supernova7005: ....... :D I must have rubbed off one you.... Your making Toriko vs DBZ battles like me now :D

Post by taichokage (12,884 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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People like pitting Toriko against Z probably because it's one of few well known series that can compete with Z in power that doesn't rely on hax primarily, rather raw power, much like Z. There are a few exceptions like Saint Seiya, but they're too strong.
Post by Platinum_94 (741 posts) See mini bio Level 9

Goku at Yadrat Saga was stopping large planet level strikes from trunks with 1 finger, the same strikes that cut freeza into Piece, When a much weaker freeza with No Ki and cut in half survive a large planet explosion.

bills is leagues above everyone else, He can easily one-shot Solar system level durability guys like absolute nothing. Since you need only a 2x gap to one-shot like gohan did and the gap between SPC and Bills is millions

Regardless even Goku from Namek saga stomps him into the ground, Bills is just beyond overkill

Post by DBZ_universe (15,657 posts) See mini bio Level 17
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They both eat goodies and call it a day.

Post by othus12 (6,583 posts) See mini bio Level 13

bills would speedblitz, but with speed equalized i see it 50/50 depending if its in character or not

Post by othus12 (6,583 posts) See mini bio Level 13

@Platinum_94 said:

Goku at Yadrat Saga was stopping large planet level strikes from trunks with 1 finger, the same strikes that cut freeza into Piece, When a much weaker freeza with No Ki and cut in half survive a large planet explosion.

bills is leagues above everyone else, He can easily one-shot Solar system level durability guys like absolute nothing. Since you need only a 2x gap to one-shot like gohan did and the gap between SPC and Bills is millions

Regardless even Goku from Namek saga stomps him into the ground, Bills is just beyond overkill

you are wayyy too wrong. dragon ball characters have awesome strking feats but pale in lifting.

ichiryuu would make namek saga goku his bitch like there is no tomorrow.

goku calls 100 times increased gravity "training" ichiryuu wouldnt even flinch with that. maybe with 1 million times increased gravity he would feel it.

besides it has been shown how weak goku is against body functions, the moment he stops breathing or his heart stops beating he would be neutralized.

goku feeling dizzy is enough to cut his power beyond half proof by how he couldnt defeat the android.

imagine now if all his body functions started to fail?

KI as explained by Akira Toriyama needs to connect the spirit, the mind and the body in order to work.

with minority world goku is getting his mind and body fucked so good luck producing any KI.

with minority world as a passive goku is reduced to the 40 ton dude he really is.

Post by Zerogodlike (1,220 posts) See mini bio Level 11

@othus12:

GL proving that to him.

Post by DBZ_universe (15,657 posts) See mini bio Level 17
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@othus12: They both are in character. but yes 50/50 since speed is equal.

Post by Platinum_94 (741 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@othus12: you are just assuming whatever he is going to do is going to hurt goku or take him out. And how does that prove he is weak against body functions or whatever

Lifting means nothing, Its the strikes that count and Goku was more striking power than this joker. And once they get Ki involved, than they go to a whole new level of Speed, Power, Destruction power. Regardless goku is too strong for him, A guy weaker than him can go survive a Large planet explosion with no Ki and cut in half

That guy is what Planet, he would barely put a dent in goku

Post by Zerogodlike (1,220 posts) See mini bio Level 11

GOKU has no hax resistance so he losses

Post by othus12 (6,583 posts) See mini bio Level 13

@Platinum_94: lifting means a LOT when battling against toriko characters since knocking applies weight to the target.

i wanna see goku lifting 1 trillion tons. yeah not happening.

cell saga proved how vulnerable goku and company are to disease and organ malfunction, try to disprove that.

Post by waybig1010101 (2,955 posts) See mini bio Level 13
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@othus12: when did goku became the topic of debate also good luck your going to need it 
Post by Dream (7,415 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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In terms of physical strength, Goku's nowhere at planetary level. His best feats with striking involved punching his foes through mountains and lifting (if you count anime-only and DBGT) were pushing two halves of a mountain as a SSJ during his fight with Kid Buu and lifting a city-sized mass of land as a SSJ4 against one of the Shadow Dragons.

I won't comment on Toriko since I haven't even touched the series yet.

Post by IndridCold (1,160 posts) See mini bio Level 14

@Platinum_94 said:

@othus12: whatever he is going to do is going to hurt goku or take him out. that proves he is weak against body functions

Lifting means a lot. Regardless goku is not hax enough for him.

That guy is Planet+, he would destroy goku

Fixed

Post by Platinum_94 (741 posts) See mini bio Level 9

@othus12: Lifting means nothing in DBZ, they don't care about how much they can lift

Goku would crush him, Since he strikes are above large planet level

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