Bernkastel (Umineko no Naku Koro ni) vs. Emperor Joker (DC)

Topic started by alternative_backup on June 12, 2013. Last post by CerusSerenade 1 month, 2 weeks ago.
Post by alternative_backup (117 posts) See mini bio Level 8
Bernkastel
Bernkastel
Emperor Joker
Emperor Joker

Who win?

Post by CerusSerenade (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Emperor joker had control over a single universe.

Bernkastel casually creates and destroys universes when fighting with Lambda.

Bern takes this.

Post by solesamurai (1,250 posts) See mini bio Level 8

^^What? Emporer joke had basicall all the power of a 5th dimensional imp. based off mxy feats he should have had control over a much larger portion of the Omniverse than a single Universe.

In fact mxy has indeed destroyed and recreated universes before

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/24850/781410-1.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/24850/781411-2.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/24850/781412-3.jpg

She can't do anything he can't. Fact.

Post by CerusSerenade (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@solesamurai: Feats of Emperor Joker affecting anything more than that universe?

Post by solesamurai (1,250 posts) See mini bio Level 8

@CerusSerenade said:

@solesamurai: Feats of Emperor Joker affecting anything more than that universe?

What? I just showed you that he could destroy and recreate universes as he pleases with a mere thought. And Emperor Joker was a short series he doesn't have a whole lot of feats at all. How about you post some feats of her doing anything on that scale.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/2/25315/453433-ew___superman_batman___world_s_funnest___48.jpg That's bat mite who can destroy universes with a mere thought, Mxy is above him in general power considering bat mite technically a small part of Mxy. Emperor Joker had 99% of Mxy's power he should be capable of things much bigger than destroying universes.

In fact mxy, can technically be considered Multiversal threat since beings from other Universes who have power directly from the Source(such as the spectre) Have absolutely no effect on him.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/6/67330/1329414-worldkrack.jpg

Post by CerusSerenade (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@solesamurai: He could create and destroy a single universe, Bernkastel casually creates and destroys them while fighting.

Start at the 0:40 mark.

Post by solesamurai (1,250 posts) See mini bio Level 8

@CerusSerenade said:

@solesamurai: He could create and destroy a single universe, Bernkastel casually creates and destroys them while fighting.

Start at the 0:40 mark.

Ne he's destroyed multiverses in the comic series World's funniest, that scan of him defeating The Spectre(a multiversal being) Is from WF, i don't have scans because i don't own the comic however, and can't find a respect thread on CV with any WF feats.

Post by CerusSerenade (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@solesamurai: Bernkastel has "torn out the guts" of several universes. She could do more, but it was to subvert stories to pass the time by. They're both multiversal.

Going by available feats Bernkastel is currently winning.

Post by solesamurai (1,250 posts) See mini bio Level 8

@CerusSerenade: Not exactly Mxy has never actually exerted any real effort towards any of the feats he has done. He's a trickster so it's all really a big joke to him. creating and destroying entire universes with thoughts is more impressive than doing it by fighting. The fact that he does this for fun is impressive in itself.

Post by CerusSerenade (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@solesamurai: Neither has Bern, it was a side effect of her fighting.

We may just have to call this inconclusive, they're both multiversal reality warpers which.

Post by solesamurai (1,250 posts) See mini bio Level 8

I just thought of something is she above a 5d being? technically even if she can destroy universes she can't do anything to him if she isn't 5th dimensional or above.

Post by CerusSerenade (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@solesamurai: Conceptual and existential denial should suffice. She doesn't kill. She sentences beings to oblivion.

Post by MarioRedfield (1,805 posts) See mini bio Level 11

Lol... little girl vs a clown

Post by DBZ_universe (15,734 posts) See mini bio Level 17

@MarioRedfield said:

Lol... little girl vs a clown

LMAO

Post by Sonata (35,428 posts) See mini bio Level 20
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In anime/manga Death is in the form of a Loli.
Post by VinoVash1234 (78 posts) See mini bio Level 8

Mxy for the win....he broke the fourth wall and entered our world LOL

One can argue featherines library is a collection of universes, each book contains universes, however characters have jumped through books showing connections between books and even storyline....if there were infinite libraries, that would be a different question.

Post by hitsusatsu11 (10,747 posts) See mini bio Level 20

Bern.

Emperor joker and mxy in general are overestimated. Its inconsistant, but at times mxy has been shown below the spectre and has been beat by sbp (though shenanagins were involved) I would put mxy below GEB, LM/MD, the endless, and thought robot in dc/vertigo. The only version that may have a chance is non canon worlds funniest mxy.

Post by CerusSerenade (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@VinoVash1234 said:

Mxy for the win....he broke the fourth wall and entered our world LOL

One can argue featherines library is a collection of universes, each book contains universes, however characters have jumped through books showing connections between books and even storyline....if there were infinite libraries, that would be a different question.

Each book is a Multiverse. The best Myx has ever done is play with a planet, and the best Joker has ever done is "destroy the universe" at will. Bernkastel could litterally play with a multiverse since they've all been turned into books. Bernkastel destroys universes several times at ftl speeds while fighting with Lambdadelta as a side-effect of their fight.

Bernkastel is far stronger.

Post by LHWKnight (2,735 posts) See mini bio Level 12

In Japan Loli and cuteness is justice lmao

Post by CerusSerenade (2,662 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@LHWKnight said:

In Japan Loli and cuteness is justice lmao

Doesn't apply to Battler who smashed Bernkastel's face in.

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