Beatrice vs Sheogorath

Topic started by KingOfAsh on Oct. 11, 2013. Last post by CerusSerenade 10 months, 2 weeks ago.
Post by KingOfAsh (1,380 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Beatrice, a witch from Unimeko (weaker than Lambadelta & Bernkastel, bust still to be reckoned with) vs Sheogorath, one of the Daedric Princes from The Elder Scrolls (don't underestimate him if you know what's good for you). Which of this two win, and which one is the bigger troll?

Post by niBBit (664 posts) See mini bio Level 11

What can Beatrice do and where does this fight take place because Sheogorath is weaker ouside his realm and in his realm he's pretty much unkilable.

Post by KingOfAsh (1,380 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@niBBit: A fight within his realm, a fight in the mind of the Mad Emperor, a fight on the Island (where Umineko is set) and a fight on neurtral grounds.

Not sure if this was Beatrice or someone else, but this is something they did...

Post by CerusSerenade (2,561 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@KingOfAsh: That was Eva Beatrice, but Eva is more inexperienced and was a result of Beatrice spicing up a game, in other words, anything stated here can be done by Beatrice and a lot more.

Here they are lightning-timers creating mythical weapons and shields that toy with universal concepts.

Post by KingOfAsh (1,380 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@CerusSerenade: What part is the feat at?

Post by CerusSerenade (2,561 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@KingOfAsh: It's where they say that Gungnir shot out like lightning and Beatrice still had time to create giants and put godly shields on them. Starts at around 40 seconds.

Post by KingOfAsh (1,380 posts) See mini bio Level 15

@CerusSerenade: So who would a better match for Sheo be; Eva or Beatrice?

Post by ReiKai (3,510 posts) See mini bio Level 10
Sheogorath can't be killed. At all. Unlike the divines who gave a part of themselves to create the universe, the Daerdric Princes are completely immortal. The only reason why Nirn isn't a twisted cespool is because of the Divines keeping the Daedric Princes from just doing whatever they wanted, whenever. But they can still make actions and mortal races worship them, so they can still affect things to a degree and the Divines can't do jack about it.
 
Sheo is a universe-level reality warper who does anything he wants on a whim and doesn't seem to really care about much of anything at all. He just likes to enjoy himself. Like spending several decades inside the mind of a dead, insane monarch, just for kicks.
Post by KingOfAsh (1,380 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Not sure how this will affect Beatrice, but it'll sure as Hell affect you.

Post by ReiKai (3,510 posts) See mini bio Level 10
"Ooh, oooh, what kind of message? A song? A summons?! Wait, I know! A death threat written on the back of an Argonian concubine! Ah-hah-haah! Those're my favorite." -Sheogorath-
Post by Kobra678 (3,135 posts) See mini bio Level 15

Sheogorath is a pretty big troll, is it possible for this Beatrice person to be an even bigger one?

Post by CerusSerenade (2,561 posts) See mini bio Level 10

Beatrice summons the Siesta Sisters and uses the red warhead anti-existence rounds.

Sheogorath may be a universal reality warper, but so is Beatrice, and Beatrice can actually create universes.

Post by ReiKai (3,510 posts) See mini bio Level 10
@CerusSerenade: Sheogorath already did that. And as we know through the Elder Scrolls themselves, the whole thing is a multiverse.
Post by CerusSerenade (2,561 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@ReiKai: Fascinating, except that none of the daedric lords have feats of erasing beings from existence.

Beatrice wins because Sheogorath can't kill her and she can kill him.

Post by ReiKai (3,510 posts) See mini bio Level 10
@CerusSerenade: Uh, no. She can't kill him. The Daedric Princes can't be killed. Also, if Sheo wanted to erase someone, he would. Daedric Princes can annihilate you on a whim. Or give you inconceivable power. Depends on their mood. Beatrice can drop a mountain of cakes. Sheogorath can make her entire body explode with cheese.
Post by CerusSerenade (2,561 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@ReiKai: Here's the definition of the red warhead:

Red Warhead: Siesta Sister's forbidden weapon, a conceptual projectile of absolute killing power "Impossible to shoot down", "Impossible to avoid", "Impossible to survive when hit".

It's similar to the red key, it isn't killing him, it's erasing him which bypasses his durability and immortality. Yes, Beatrice can in erase Sheogorath, and the deadric princes have no feats or demonstrations of erasing beings from existence. The argument "because I said so" is not a valid one, I thought you would know this by now.

Post by ReiKai (3,510 posts) See mini bio Level 10
@CerusSerenade: Again, no. He's not like some 'immortal vampire' or some stupid thing like that. The Daedric Princes cannot be killed or destroyed. Fact is, Sheo won the moment Beatrice was even introduced.


Sheo was once the Daedric Prince of Order, Jyggalag. The sphere of his power was so great, the other Daedric Princes were actually afraid of him, so they worked together to curse him and thus was born Sheogorath, the Daedric Prince of Madness. Eventually, with the aid of Sheo, the Champion enabled both sides of his personality to be separated and they became separate Daedric Princes.
 
I find it funny anyone could think Sheo could be taken out by her. You'd need the Almighty Himself to do that. And Sithis really couldn't give a shit.

"I once dug a pit and filled it with clouds....or was it clowns.... it doesn't matter, it didn't slow him down. But it really began to smell! Must have been clowns. Clouds don't smell, they taste of butter. And tears." -Sheogorath-

Post by CerusSerenade (2,561 posts) See mini bio Level 10

@ReiKai: Doesn't matter if they can't be destroyed, that means nothing to being erased from existence. They have NEVER shown the ability to erase beings from existence in any of the games, thus he cannot kill Beatrice who cannot be killed by any form of physical means.

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