Alucard VS Hellboy, Scorpion and Ghost Rider

Topic started by blackdemon on Jan. 28, 2012. Last post by Fehafare 3 months, 2 weeks ago.
Post by blackdemon (237 posts) See mini bio Level 8
Alucard from Hellsing takes on Hellboy from Dark Horse Comics, Scorpion from Mortal Kombat and Ghost Rider from Marvel Comics. If he fought any of them one-on-one, he would win. But he's facing all three of them at once. Note well that Scorpion is in his Mortal Kombat Deception form and that the Ghost Rider here is Johnny Blaze. As well as that both Alucard and his opponents have prepped all too well and bloodlust is on for both him and them. The fight takes place, appropriately, in hell. Will Alucard still win? Or will these three working together prove too much even for one such as himself?
Post by Fehafare (1,437 posts) See mini bio Level 12

I don't think he could take on Ghost Rider one on one, so i will just say that GR takes the win for the team.

Post by ReiKai (2,279 posts) See mini bio Level 9
He can't take Scorpion one-on-one either. And for Hellboy, it depends on what HB has. Scorp can literally dump his ass into the Nether Realm (BFR). Alucard clearly has a soul and he's done tons of horrendous things, so Penance Stare would pretty much destroy him. Scorpion and GR can't ever really die, so Alucard could never beat them anyway.
Post by Fehafare (1,437 posts) See mini bio Level 12

@ReiKai: Scorpion lacks speed and has pretty low power outside Neather Realm and will get gunned down by Jackal. GR yes, won't die anytime soon, but Scorpion has to be reborn again and that would already count as a lose for him.

And to be honest i don't know about Hellboy, his movie showings aren't too impressive but from what i know movie adaptations pretty much downgrade any character.

Post by ReiKai (2,279 posts) See mini bio Level 9
Scorpion is actually pretty fast and can Teleport, as well as having been empowered by the Elder Gods. Guns won't do jack shit to him. In the Nether Realm, Scorpion is just plain Invincible. Even on Earth, MK figures get impaled and blasted and barely even notice it anymore. They just keep on fighting.
Post by Dream (3,386 posts) See mini bio Level 19
Scorpion's not too impressive feat-wise and I can picture Alucard easily wasting him. 
 
I don't know enough on Hellboy to comment on him. 
 
A Penance Stare from Ghost Rider would screw Alucard over big time.
Post by Dream (3,386 posts) See mini bio Level 19
@ReiKai: Not too many fighters in the MK-verse are that impressive speed-wise. Alucard has enough means on him to dispatch Scorpion from shooting him up with Jackal shots which were potent enough to shut down Alexander Anderson's regenerative abilities or even snack on the ninja through his demon familiars and make him a part of his legion of countless souls he slain throughout his life thus effectively shutting down Scorpion's ability to resurrect himself. I highly doubt Scorpion would be capable of dealing the millions of souls within Alucard all on his own.
Post by ReiKai (2,279 posts) See mini bio Level 9
Except Alucard can't hurt him, and Scorp has infinite Stamina, and Scorp can BFR him into the Nether Realm...
Post by Dream (3,386 posts) See mini bio Level 19
@ReiKai: BFR him how exactly? Alucard has far greater speed than the hell-spawn ninja making it very doubtful he'll be capable of delivering any surprise attacks. And the "infinite stamina" section is nothing special as Alucard is also among the undead with endless stamina on him thanks to the millions of souls within his body.
 
Scorpion's powers would only be at their strongest when he's in the Nether Realm. While he can't actually die since he's already among the undead, it takes time for him to be revived thus he won't be doing very much to effect this match.
Post by Newdeath (18,546 posts) See mini bio Level 18

Alucard doesn't stand a chance against Ghost Rider. GR is too powerful and too difficult to put down.

ND

Post by ReiKai (2,279 posts) See mini bio Level 9
Scorpion couldn't be killed after he chased Quan-Chi out of the Nether Realm in Deadly Alliance. It took two powerful demons from the Nether Realm, one of which was known for numerous catastrophies throughout human history, and even then they couldn't kill or destroy him, only hold him until they could toss him into the Soulnado. To which, Scorpion rose to Heaven and became the Champion of the Elder Gods rather than being torn apart by the heavenly spirits. 
 
The fact that Alucard can't kill Scorpion makes your entire argument moot. As did the faction Scorpion can Teleport. That negated any speed argument right there.
  
  
Post by Dream (3,386 posts) See mini bio Level 19
@ReiKai: Not exactly moot as you're going about your usual song and dance of trying to take the ability of a certain character you're oozing for and exaggerating their capabilities to try proclaiming yourself as right. And don't go proclaiming yourself to be more knowledgeable on Mortal Kombat than I am as I've played many of the games in the franchise and have followed the storyline to the later games so I could keep track of what has happened.
 
Drahmin and Moloch were acting under Quan Chi's orders in dealing with Scorpion as both together absolutely owned the ninja in combat, even with his abilities augmented while in the Nether Realm thus it's safe to assume that Alucard could still slaughter Scorps if the ninja were somehow lucky enough to pull him into the realm. Teleporting is worthless on Alucard as outside of the vampire's far greater speed, he also has the ability to read minds which would allow him to anticipate the ninja's attacks. And as I had already mentioned in an earlier post, Alucard could eat up Scorpion and make him into one of his familiars if his guns prove ineffective on the ninja. I don't see how spears and fire from Scorpion would be able to take out the 200 million-plus souls within Alucard all at once as the ninja lacks the destructive output and physical capabilities to take down Alucard.
Post by ReiKai (2,279 posts) See mini bio Level 9
This coming from you?
 
Moloch and Drahmin did not slaughter Scorpion. The fact it took both of them to take him on speaks volumes about how powerful Scorpion was at the time. Recall, that was Before he got a power boost from the Elder Gods. Also, no. Alucard could not eat him. Scorp isn't some pissant undead vampire. He doesn't actually have blood. He's a demon Specter that's filled with Hellfire. Alucard "reading minds" is ambiguous at best and was never used in combat situations. And again, you can't claim speed superiority since Teleporting is Instantaneous.
 
Physically speaking, Scorpion outpaces Alucard in Strength and durability. Honestly, Alucard is as durable as Jello. And Hellfire, along with Fire fire, does burn and searing Alucard's body of blood into ashes could very well kill him. As far as Power goes, seriously, look at what happened in Armageddon. A few dozen people had become so powerful in their fighting abilities they had literally sparked the End of the World; Armageddon (Ragnarok, The Last Day, whatever you wanna call it). It was so bad the Elder Gods finally had to get off their asses and intervene directly.
 
And once more, since you continue to ignore it; Scorpion can BFR him. That's it. All Scorp has to do is Teleport, grab and drag him into the Nether Realm. That's the end of it. Scorpion knows how to get back out and can do so anytime he wants. Alucard doesn't, and unlike Scorpion, Alucard doesn't become endlessly more powerful the longer he remains in the Nether Realm.
Post by Dream (3,386 posts) See mini bio Level 19

Moloch and Drahmin did not slaughter Scorpion. The fact it took both of them to take him on speaks volumes about how powerful Scorpion was at the time.


 
I never said they slaughtered him. The narration stated that both of them together could overpower Scorpion, even in his augmented state while in the Nether Realm, which you keep ignoring.
 

Also, no. Alucard could not eat him. Scorp isn't some pissant undead vampire. He doesn't actually have blood. He's a demon Specter that's filled with Hellfire.


 
Proof of this please?
 
Scorpion's undead body is still capable of bleeding which is shown quite prominently in the games. Alucard is capable of absorbing his opponent's soul through draining their blood or consumption via one of his familiars.
 

Physically speaking, Scorpion outpaces Alucard in Strength and durability. Honestly, Alucard is as durable as Jello. And Hellfire, along with Fire fire, does burn and searing Alucard's body of blood into ashes could very well kill him.


 
Unless Scorpion is capable of producing flames hot enough where he could completely incinerate whatever remains of Alucard, highly doubtful. If Alucard can regenerate himself from a puddle of blood and gore, then he would be capable of regenerating his burnt body, especially considering Scorpion wouldn't know of the full extent of Alucard's regenerative capabilities in this match.
 


And once more, since you continue to ignore it; Scorpion can BFR him. That's it. All Scorp has to do is Teleport, grab and drag him into the Nether Realm.

 
Show me a point where Scorpion could open portals to the Nether Realm on his own then. Either Quan Chi transported him between realms, Scorpion had to find a portal on his own or the merging of realms during the events of Mortal Kombat 3 inadvertently led him back to Earth after Kahn failed to take over the Nether Realm. He couldn't freely manipulate portals on his own.
Post by Whats_out_the_bag (82 posts) See mini bio Level 7

Ok guys this is a team battle lets focus we already know Alucard is going to get wiped cause GR is going to beat him up and we have some others to help get some hits in too. End it at that.

Post by All_StarSupes (447 posts) See mini bio Level 8

GR solos everybody

Post by DCypher (104 posts) See mini bio Level 15

I appreciate the love for Ghost Rider here. I really do.

I think the problem would be from the 'team' not 'teaming' very well, Ghostrider might just get along with Hellboy at a stretch but Scorpion? He'd blatantly end up trying to kill Hellboy, leaving Ghostrider and Hellboy vs Scorpion and Alucard which then, would be a good fight. The other issue you never know how Hellboy is going to react to holy artifacts or nether-realm itself.

Does this just leave Goku vs Ghost Rider as the only other good fight? xDD

Post by ReiKai (2,279 posts) See mini bio Level 9
You ever look at the character alignments in MK? Scorpion is a neutral party. He doesn't care for sides, only his own revenge against Quan-Chi. Since GR and HB are not intending to impede him or fight him, he has no reason to turn on them.
 
@Dream said:
I never said they slaughtered him. The narration stated that both of them together could overpower Scorpion, even in his augmented state while in the Nether Realm, which you keep ignoring.
 
Given both Moloch and Drahmin are Demons, they both benefit while in the Nether Realm as well. And all they did was act as Bodyguards for Quan-Chi. They kept Scorpion at bay, that was all. It was essentially a stalemate. Scorp couldn't take both out at once, and even together Mol and Drah couldn't deter Scorpion. I didn't ignore it, it's simply not relative since all parties were being empowered by that dimension.
 

Proof of this please?
 
Scorpion's undead body is still capable of bleeding which is shown quite prominently in the games. Alucard is capable of absorbing his opponent's soul through draining their blood or consumption via one of his familiars

That's what we call a Game Mechanic. Something you can turn On and Off in the Options section, as well as make the blood Green if you wished. The proof is self-evident. Removing his Face to show a skull isn't an illusion. He is literally skin containing his overworldly being. and last I checked, skeletons don't have blood vessels. Not only this, but did you not pay attention to the clips? Even Moloch and Drahmin could not  consume Scorpion's being. And, again, this was Prior to him being further empowered by the Elder Gods.
 

Unless Scorpion is capable of producing flames hot enough where he could completely incinerate whatever remains of Alucard, highly doubtful. If Alucard can regenerate himself from a puddle of blood and gore, then he would be capable of regenerating his burnt body, especially considering Scorpion wouldn't know of the full extent of Alucard's regenerative capabilities in this match.

Alucard can regenerate, however that's not what he does most of the time. Essentially he's just Reforming himself from all of his scattered pieces. He is somewhat like Jedah in Darkstalkers in that his body is more like a Liquid, so shooting him to pieces and such doesn't actually cause any real harm. Not unless the weapon used can specifically harm that type of creature, ie; blessed objects, silver and such. It was also apparent Occult magic could hurt him, just not to the same extent that Holy/Blessed things do.
 

Show me a point where Scorpion could open portals to the Nether Realm on his own then. Either Quan Chi transported him between realms, Scorpion had to find a portal on his own or the merging of realms during the events of Mortal Kombat 3 inadvertently led him back to Earth after Kahn failed to take over the Nether Realm. He couldn't freely manipulate portals on his own.

I'm not saying he does open portals. However, Scorpion can, if he so chooses to, return to the Nether Realm under his own power, much like teleportation. In that sense he can grab Alucard and drag him down into the Nether Realm with him. At which point, Alucard has no means of exiting, while Scorpion does know the various exits. Though at this point it wouldn't be necessary since he could destroy Alucard at his leisure once in the Nether Realm.
 
Also if you remember in some of the earlier MK games, one of Scorpion's moves was to grab the target and slam them right down into the Nether Realm (the area full of fire and skeletal bodies on poles, where you see more Scorpion-dressed figures in the background). So, even by going by an in-game ability/technique, that showed Scorp could BFR down into the Nether Realm with an intended target.
Post by Dream (3,386 posts) See mini bio Level 19
Not gonna bother debating on everything since we're only gonna wind up going around in circles with our arguments. However...
 

That's what we call a Game Mechanic. Something you can turn On and Off in the Options section, as well as make the blood Green if you wished. The proof is self-evident. Removing his Face to show a skull isn't an illusion. He is literally skin containing his overworldly being. and last I checked, skeletons don't have blood vessels.


 
Check the opening cinema to the latest Mortal Kombat game which came out. Scorpion's corpse is lying in a decent-sized puddle of his own blood from being impaled with Sub-Zero's Kori Blade.
 
  
  
 

I'm not saying he does open portals. However, Scorpion can, if he so chooses to, return to the Nether Realm under his own power, much like teleportation.

Proof please.

Also if you remember in some of the earlier MK games, one of Scorpion's moves was to grab the target and slam them right down into the Nether Realm (the area full of fire and skeletal bodies on poles, where you see more Scorpion-dressed figures in the background). So, even by going by an in-game ability/technique, that showed Scorp could BFR down into the Nether Realm with an intended target. 


 
That fatality was from Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 and some versions of Mortal Kombat Trilogy and it seems like a game mechanic for me considering it was inconsistent with feats he displayed at other points within the series. Some of the fatalities in those games were notable for being quite over-the-top compared to earlier and later installments of the series from anything like Jax growing to massive proportions and squishing his foe, Liu Kang crushing his foe with a Mortal Kombat arcade cabinet and Kabal using his respirator to pump his opponent's head up like a balloon.
Post by PikminMania (88 posts) See mini bio Level 12

Alucard wins.

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