I am not reading Umineko yet but i think this is a stomp in Beatrice's favor.
I don't know if she could kill post-schrodinger Al but she shouldn't have much trouble dealing with pre-schro.
@Fehafare: Beatrice can say everything that is true in red; and red can be used to deny existance of magical beings that are everything that is fictional. Thus in the story a being is never denied directly is clearly stated that as long as it isn't real it can be denied.
@Fehafare:Yeah, but it won't be easy, to use red truth, she must know the truth, if she were to lie in red, she will choke and suffer pain. The problem of Red Truth in crossover battles, is the fact that well, pretty much every fictional character isn't real, so is usually desacredited or banned
@MohsinMan99: Yeah but actually if let us say Alucard is silly or his inteligence because of an unknown reason is nerfed seriously, Deadpool with knowledge on him could actually get him to question his exsistance and kill him. But yeah not really valid in battles, anyway ask Levance about that red truth, i am not reading umineko yet.
@MohsinMan99: lol just as stupid as the "Alucard can only be killed by a human" argument or "Megatron can only be defeated by an Optimus" argument.
So many misunderstood statmens and arguments, anyway we should stop bumping this thread as it's already decided.
@Fehafare: @MohsinMan99:Yup, that's precisely the kind of discussion generated in base of the red truth.
1)Umineko's witches are almost all fourth wall breakers, not the humor ones but the plot ones. In fact the reader/watcher is often refered as spectators witches. And the truths are fourth wall stuff.
2)Allowing Red Truth, must be limited, and yeah, if we look from a logical point of view based on the story, Beatrice may be able to deny the existance of Alucard, but well, to a crossover battle that cannot be allowed, as the fiction in Umineko is limited to itself, and others fictions even if they're fiction the rules cannot be aplied the same way. Well that's what I've been understanding until know.
In fact there is a reason behind the truths that impedes Battler to directly deny the existance of witches in the story